daily discussion thread 6th may - Page 4

The last few episodes have been boring but today's episode was awesome! Too bad Manav's dream wasn't real because I could definately see it happening. Savita sad to see Archana go, Shravani smirking believing she won and Manav heartbroken. Manav's bad dream is proof that he still loves Archana and doesn't want to let go of her. I felt so bad for him today, from his pain to him being sick it was sad. I liked seeing the flashbacks of him and Archana

Originally posted by: tarantulla_p

The thing is - Archana is so wrong about who needs defence and when. What if in this situation, it was not her but say Vandita who was being wronged - would she have defended the other woman so vociferously? The fact is, maybe she is blind to it but what is happening in their household is straight up crazy.

No of course not, Archana will not defend the other woman if Vandu is in place of Archu as Ajit is exactly not as noble as Manav. Why is Archana defending Shravani? just because Manav promised to marry her and her husband's wish is a command to her. Don't think so. Shravani is carrying Sachin's child and Sachin is no more. Archana is indirectly responsible for his death and Shravani's uncertain future as well. She is trying to pay for her mistakes of not trusting Manav and paying for Manju's mistake as well. Manav's family has gone through lots of troubles, tragedy coz of her. She defends Shravani in front of society coz she is protective of her family and is trying to make society accept the decision that her family has made. If it was Vandu in her place then Archu doesn't care for Lokhande family as much to go and defend the other woman ( who would be some slut from red light area that Ajit frequents). On contrary she would try to think of Vandu as Vandu is related to her. Archu is selfless woman and not a crusader for unwed pregnant women.

^ I agree, Archana is a selfless person and tries to see things from other people's point of view. The way Archana sees things, Sachin died an untimely death leaving behind a fiance and a child. She feels sorry for Shravani and understands why Manav made the decision he did.

Originally posted by: Arien_03

No of course not, Archana will not defend the other woman if Vandu is in place of Archu as Ajit is exactly not as noble as Manav. Why is Archana defending Shravani? just because Manav promised to marry her and her husband's wish is a command to her. Don't think so. Shravani is carrying Sachin's child and Sachin is no more. Archana is indirectly responsible for his death and Shravani's uncertain future as well. She is trying to pay for her mistakes of not trusting Manav and paying for Manju's mistake as well. Manav's family has gone through lots of troubles, tragedy coz of her. She defends Shravani in front of society coz she is protective of her family and is trying to make society accept the decision that her family has made. If it was Vandu in her place then Archu doesn't care for Lokhande family as much to go and defend the other woman ( who would be some slut from red light area that Ajit frequents). On the contrary she would try to think of Vandu as Vandu is related to her. Archu is selfless woman and not a crusader for unwed pregnant women.

Hmm, I dont know if Archana's loyalties to Shravani have so much to do with Sachin's baby as they have to do with Manav himself. See Arien, I think the righteous and the right way is to stand up against mistakes commited especially by your loved ones. Not to defend them because they are your family. As for Manav's family's troubles being because of her - not sure about that either. I think she has suffered as much or more than them and still no respite in sight. Lets see, if a wife doesnt trust her husband, does it mean that when she is angry and mad, he will turn around and decide to marry his brother's fiance - whatever the circumstances.?? I agree with you that she is selfless but I think its more than what is necessary. She is putting herself out as a doormat and sorry, if you dont respect yourself, there is a very little chance the rest of the world will.

After watching the episode again, I have to wonder if Manju is going to go back to the dark side because of what she overheard Vinod's parents talking about. Manju shouldn't jump to conclusions without knowing the facts. Sulochana said herself that they would have to talk to Vinod about this, so why doesn't she wait and see what they have to say.

I'm saying there are more reasons for Archana's defensive behaviour towards Shravani than just Manav's decision to marry Shravani. Her defensive behaviour to Shravani is coz of loyalties to her family and as effort to make Shravani acceptable to society. I don't know if it was only me who found those women taunts to Shravani offensive and unacceptable. Why is Archana wrong in defending Shravani there? If its OK for forum members to sympathize with Shravani for her condition, why can't Archu sympathize with her, she is after all part of same family.

See Arien, I think the righteous and the right way is to stand up against mistakes commited especially by your loved ones. Not to defend them because they are your family.

As for Manav's family's troubles being because of her - not sure about that either.

Who walked out on marriage and made Manav and his family subject to public humiliation, why were Deshmukh's in police custody? what is the reason behind Sachin's untimely death? Is Archana and Karanjkars not indirectly involved in all of this?

I think she has suffered as much or more than them and still no respite in sight. Lets see, if a wife doesnt trust her husband, does it mean that when she is angry and mad, he will turn around and decide to marry his brother's fiance - whatever the circumstances.??

Oh so Archana was just mad at Manav and she didn't sign divorce paper and didn't go to first hearing and gave her consent to judge that they are calling for mutual annulment of their marriage. Manav had given up all hope on his marriage as his case was accepted in court and both of them had appeared before judge. It was after that Manav offered marriage to Shravani. He didn't turn around and jumped at opportunity to marry Shravani as soon as his wife walked away. He tried so hard to pacify Archana and make her understand.

I agree with you that she is selfless but I think its more than what is necessary. She is putting herself out as a doormat and sorry, if you dont respect yourself, there is a very little chance the rest of the world will.

This is a rhetoric and recycled idea about Archana that isn't applicable anymore. You don't make your doormat in-charge of your kitchen and day to day expenses. Apart from Shravani everyone is respecting Archana.

I'm saying there are more reasons for Archana's defensive behaviour towards Shravani than just Manav's decision to marry Shravani. Her defensive behaviour to Shravani is coz of loyalties to her family and as effort to make Shravani acceptable to society. I don't know if it was only me who found those women taunts to Shravani offensive and unacceptable. Why is Archana wrong in defending Shravani there? If its OK for forum members to sympathize with Shravani for her condition, why can't Archu sympathize with her, she is after all part of same family.

I dont think Archana is wrong to defend Shravani when people were attacking Shravani personally but here they were asking a genuine question that most of us visitors to this forum have. How can a future fiance live with a much married man and his wife. How is that acceptable - under any circumstances? The question is not about Shravani's condition (pregnancy) but about her ethics or the ethics of anyone living in that house. What really gets me here is that Shravani will obviously never appreciate Archana's gesture and Archana is defending all the wrong that is happening in her life - for what? Its really pointless unless the point is to show how great she is. Also, Archana and Shravani are not part of the same family - if one is in the family the other is out because they are in the same role as the other.

Who walked out on marriage and made Manav and his family subject to public humiliation, why were Deshmukh's in police custody? what is the reason behind Sachin's untimely death? Is Archana and Karanjkars not indirectly involved in all of this?

We could debate this but if all she is doing is atoning for past sins, it doesnt make her very selfless.

Oh so Archana was just mad at Manav and she didn't sign divorce paper and didn't go to first hearing and gave her consent to judge that they are calling for mutual annulment of their marriage. Manav had given up all hope on his marriage as his case was accepted in court and both of them had appeared before judge. It was after that Manav offered marriage to Shravani. He didn't turn around and jumped at opportunity to marry Shravani as soon as his wife walked away. He tried so hard to pacify Archana and make her understand.

Again, we can debate this but we will have to agree to disagree that no one in their right mind commits to a new relationship until closure on the previous relationship has been achieved. Else it is rebound and such relationships last only as long as you are angry with your former partner - which is exactly what happened here. The decision to commit to Shravani is wrong in all levels.

This is a rhetoric and recycled idea about Archana that isn't applicable anymore. You don't make your doormat in-charge of your kitchen and day to day expenses. Apart from Shravani everyone is respecting Archana.

I dont think cooking for a family while sleeping in the kitchen like a nobody qualifies as being respected - and in any case, I have a huge objection with this whole premise. Archana was treated very very badly right up until Vandita's marriage. What changed Savita's heart was when she heard Archana let herself get slapped for Vandita and when Rasika insulted her, Archana jumped to her defence. It really had nothing to do with how nice Archana was with Savita till that day. Very unrealistic. As for the expenses etc- I think it has been made up because until the Rasika episode Savita was spewing venom at Archana so it is hardly believable that she was trusted with anything serious.

My basic objection is with the ridiculous portrayal of women on the Indian TV. They are glorified for all wrong reasons and vilified for even worse ones. I know the medium is mostly for entertainment but for the audience who watches these years on end, the message will percolate - that no matter what happens to you, you smile and take it and worse, defend it - all in the name of selflessness. It was nice discussing this with you.

Archana has a scewed vision about things...This is why she is defending the ones who does not need any defending....

Originally posted by: tarantulla_p

Also, anyone noticed how Manav's dream also had Shravani rolling her eyes several times...guess it hasnt escaped his notice either

🤣 I was thinking the same while watching that scene 😆

hey everyone, i could not see the show yesterday , god bless aarti , i read her update. i am just dying to see it. i think it was a sort of romantic episode with archu giving the much needed TLC to Manav and him all happy and relaxed in the attention.
sid you must be happy..
I a sure today Girish ji will come and do kachra of all the romance by making Manav run after his girl again. Of course Manav will be obliging immediately.......