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So well said.Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Nikita
About Manav devaluing his dad .Whatever you said in your post ............are proofs enough that Manav loves his dad . No one is disputing the fact here that Manav loves his dad .But loving and valuing the opinions of the one you love are two diffrent things . One can love a person very much inspite of his faults but secretly not give any credence to his opinions at all and listen with a pinch of salt when he gives his advice . If a mother has three sons , she loves all of them equally as a mother , keeps equal property for them , looks after them in sickness wih equal love but she may , as an individual , value the opinion of only one son and may seek out his advice on crucial matters or family emergencies .And Manav loves his dad immensely , but devalues his advice as an individual every time . Manav is not a very good judge of human character .Damodar was against the divorce but Manav listened to Manju and SAvita .Damodar told him not to turn Archana away from the house when she went there according to court order but Manav did . { WELL not in words as such , but purposefully telling her that he was marrying Shravni ]........upset , Damodar slipped back , like most alcoholics do , into drinking and MAnav went looking for him and brought him back .........again an example of love , but not heedng his advice , but overruling itDAmodar wanted to invite Archu at every function but Manav always sided with SAvita about NOT calling ArchuManav forbade Damodar from going to meet Archu personally , even sided with SAvita when DAmodar slapped her for calling Archu characterless .Here u can argue that it was Sachins engagement and all but The fact remains that Manav was totally silent himself when SAvita called Archu badchalan , and rushed forward to pamper her and tell Damodar I cannot and wont tolerate this ......hitting of my mom , not even bothering to understand why his father , a gem of a man did it .The most crucial advice he ignored was Damodar telling him we will take care of Shravni you work on ur marraige with Archu . He IGNORED that and rushed ahead to take Shravni as his responsibility .Look where he is today . THings with Archu wud have worked out , but now , bcoz of his foolish decision , he cannot even try working things out with Archu .DAmodar was the one who proved his innocence . Damodar wud have eventually got Archu back for him even . But Manav chose to listen all the time to the harsh screeching voice of his mother that drowned the calm , staid advice of his father .Manav knows both his parents as individuals . He has seen the blatant vices of both .Damodar has only one.......his alcoholism , while Savita has innumerable .........greed , cruelty , pettiness ........many . Inspie of that Manav chooses to disregard every advice given by his father and listen to every advice of his mother . It never strikes him that his father loves him unselfishly and his mother has selfish interests .So u see , Manav has proved he loves his father .........but about valuing him as an individual ? He takes him for granted .
Silly fool that girl Archna is .....
So well said.Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Nikita
About Manav devaluing his dad .Whatever you said in your post ............are proofs enough that Manav loves his dad . No one is disputing the fact here that Manav loves his dad .But loving and valuing the opinions of the one you love are two diffrent things . One can love a person very much inspite of his faults but secretly not give any credence to his opinions at all and listen with a pinch of salt when he gives his advice . If a mother has three sons , she loves all of them equally as a mother , keeps equal property for them , looks after them in sickness wih equal love but she may , as an individual , value the opinion of only one son and may seek out his advice on crucial matters or family emergencies .And Manav loves his dad immensely , but devalues his advice as an individual every time . Manav is not a very good judge of human character .Damodar was against the divorce but Manav listened to Manju and SAvita .Damodar told him not to turn Archana away from the house when she went there according to court order but Manav did . { WELL not in words as such , but purposefully telling her that he was marrying Shravni ]........upset , Damodar slipped back , like most alcoholics do , into drinking and MAnav went looking for him and brought him back .........again an example of love , but not heedng his advice , but overruling itDAmodar wanted to invite Archu at every function but Manav always sided with SAvita about NOT calling ArchuManav forbade Damodar from going to meet Archu personally , even sided with SAvita when DAmodar slapped her for calling Archu characterless .Here u can argue that it was Sachins engagement and all but The fact remains that Manav was totally silent himself when SAvita called Archu badchalan , and rushed forward to pamper her and tell Damodar I cannot and wont tolerate this ......hitting of my mom , not even bothering to understand why his father , a gem of a man did it .The most crucial advice he ignored was Damodar telling him we will take care of Shravni you work on ur marraige with Archu . He IGNORED that and rushed ahead to take Shravni as his responsibility .Look where he is today . THings with Archu wud have worked out , but now , bcoz of his foolish decision , he cannot even try working things out with Archu .DAmodar was the one who proved his innocence . Damodar wud have eventually got Archu back for him even . But Manav chose to listen all the time to the harsh screeching voice of his mother that drowned the calm , staid advice of his father .Manav knows both his parents as individuals . He has seen the blatant vices of both .Damodar has only one.......his alcoholism , while Savita has innumerable .........greed , cruelty , pettiness ........many . Inspie of that Manav chooses to disregard every advice given by his father and listen to every advice of his mother . It never strikes him that his father loves him unselfishly and his mother has selfish interests .So u see , Manav has proved he loves his father .........but about valuing him as an individual ? He takes him for granted .
Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Tanya I agree .
The display of love by creatives on Manav's part is simply not enough at all . It fails to touch . Savita's tending to archu did touch a chord today .........she was shown as a woman with a sharp tongue but not so bad heart . She talked all the time but she did tend to her . Thats the way she is , and I had an aunt who was like this . She did a lot of badbad [ talk ] but eventually did things . Once more it hit me that Savita does not fall in Rasikas category ..........Rasika is really purely evil .
Although Savita cannot be exonerated for her dowry demands or character assasination spree on Archu ..........she needs to apologize big time for that , Savita falls into the grey category .........she had earlier shown her human side while taking care of Punni when she was lost . Manju and Rasika r however totally black .........so is Ajit .
As you said Manav wud do this for any aunty in the chawl .
I too wondered the same thing ..........where the hell was everyone leaving Archu just like that ? I had expected manav to sleep on the floor below her bed only to tend to her if she needed him in the night . I wanted to see Archus eyes opening and being pleasantly shocked to see him sleeping there ........him helping her to the bathroom . Giving painkillers . Then the morning tea .
It wud have been ok to show that Savita helped when Manav went down to fill the water . That wud make sense . But Manav sleeping inside makes no sense .
Infact his inherent guilt at purposefully treating her so shabbily shud come out and his tending shud be shown even more tender than normal .
Btw ....Sushant Rajput seems to have a tendency to run to fat if unchecked . Today Manav 's face looked on the plumper side in that clinging blue Tshirt .
Like a chubby Raja Ram .
Originally posted by: Akashspartan
@Tanyaz,
He dosen't want his emotions to ruin what he his planning off lately.As he told too Tarun, that he would make sure that this three months she starts hating him the most, so thats his chopped out plan.What else he can do, he his committed to her(Shravani).As he rightly told Archana tum apni galatiyon ka paryashict kar rahi ho, and i am doing it for Sachin.So he his right in his place, some where bottom line lies with Archana, if she had given him a chance to prove his innocence then this day would never arise.Pati aur patni ka rishta sirf aur sirf barose pe thik hua hey...........She walked out of him what do u expect him too do....