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Posted: 15 years ago
#51
I am off to bed too . What's the point discussing it ..these damn creatives will do what they want ...
I am just going to stop caring .
sweet dreams .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@TANYA:
hey, come on... Manav just wanted that man to be punished who tried to ruin his wifes respect....You got to agree that Manav has lost more than Archu....By the way, Manav is not going to get married to Shravani.... TTake New Year resolution that you will try to be more positive...
Will continue tomorrow, feeling really sleepy...
Sweet Dreams.....
Edited by guptill - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: guptill

Now Tanyaz, wud you please do me a favour... Please tell me what Archu has paid off??
Or just compare what manav and his family has lost and what Archana has lost??
Manav has lost his respect when slapped by sulochana in front of everyone and given
a proud tag "CHARACTERLESS"... Manavs family went to jail.. His poor innocent sister
got beaten up.... His family lost respect.... His bro visa was cancelled and ultimately
his bro died and now you will say that it was manjus fault... Tell me. who the hell
is manju part of?? Now, Archana passed manavs loan for garage, proud of her....
But, what manav did for her.... Saved her from brothel, saved her respect, saved her
babas life, saved her sisters life and respect...What he got in return that Archu believed
that it was manav who trapped her in brothel and you are saying Manav is not worthy Archana...
Better say that ITS BOTH MANAV AND ARCHANAS FAULT BUT MORE THAN THAT ITS CIRCUMSTANCES
AND LACK OF ABILITY OF USING THEIR BRAINS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SITUATION... WAITING FOR
YOUR REPLY DEAR......

When one loves a girl not in his league , and has an extremely questionable mother , and then gets accused in public , by the LAW ...........the police ............eyebrows r automatically raised .
This whole business of HOW ARCHU EVEN DARED TO DOUBT SWEETU MANAV has to be really studied by us very carefully as we r now analysing this like a PHD thesis .😆
Please remember that Manav loved Archana much much before Archana even knew him .
Manav had observed archana , her character , her physical beauty , her goodness , from close quarters unknown to her .
In effect we had the boy knowing every inch of the girl , but the girl not knowing that the boy even existed as such .
The day he surfaced suddenly in the brothel , remember the scene . After her initial shock and scare , we see Archana coming to her senses , and shrinking away from Manav in the taxi and asking him , how come he was there ? Naturally to her mind only guys who seek out whores appear in a brothel . We see Manav reassuring her that dont be scared Im not that what u think . But we dont see him giving her an adequate explanation for him being on the spot .
Yes he saves her dad and then the lies start ..........by his mother .
Once the marraige is done , and Archu is later sent to her in laws by sulochana we see Sulochana really giving the marraige a chance . She tells Archu to adjust there , to respect them .She fulfils ALL of Ssavitas greedy demands . To her credit she does not fill her damaad's ears about the kartoots , the deeds of his mother and shame him .
She has seen what Manav was unaware of...........a horrid side of Savita . She saw Savita wearing Archus jewels on a function while her daughter was plainly dressed . She saw the demands for jewellery . The blackmails . Uneasily she kept quiet till on the day of the pooja , the pimp , with the aid of the police told that Manav had planned this ALL ALONG TO GET A GIRL NOT IN HIS LEAGUE .
Can u really blame her for believing it ? The way she discovered his dysfunctional family on the day of the marraige .........then , the way she noted Archus torture by Savita when she actually gave the marraige a chance .............sulochana wud perhaps have not believed just Ajit or just that pimp . But clever Ajit pulled in The LAW to testify on his behalf . And he rubbed it in very cleverly that Manav did this coz he had dreamt of marrying a girl not in his league .
And that is the crux of PR , even in the title song . Archana is not exactly in Manav's league . She is from a cultured middle class family , the type who live in flats or bungalows of their own . Manav's dysfunctional family , with a drunken dad , abusive mom and chawl culture is no way anything a woman like Sulochna wud look for while finding a son in law for herself .
Snapping she slapped Manav . I too dont like it and I hope one day she squirms for this action as if ants crawled on her butt , as truly , it is the biggest disrespect a son in law can get . But from her point of view , inspite of knowing the family was thoroughly dysfunctional she had given it a real chance , why ? For only one thing ............that all had told her that THE BOY IS GOOD . GIVE HIM A CHANCE . Dont LOOK AT HIS DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY , OR HIS GREEDY MOM ..................LOOK AT HIM AND SEND YOUR GIRL THERE .
And the boy was exposed as frequenting brothels by the pimp and also by police .
Can one really blame Sulochna for breaking down ? For her that was the last straw . It wud honestly be so for ANY mother .
As far as the list of sacrifices goes ..........if Manav saved Archus honour , Manohar , then Varsha ..................Archu suffred horrendous abuse from Savita and didnt once complain to him about her . She left her whole family to reside with him and adjusted quietly in a standard of living which was frankly below her . She asked for nothing. Demanded nothing .At that point Manav never even had a garage of his own . He worked in sumone else's garage . So u see , their sacrifices equal each other .
If fault has to be really pinpointed here it lies both on Archana and Manav's head for never ever sitting down and talking to each other as such . Manav never really gave her adequate explanations for being in that brothel , for seeing the pimp again , and Archana never bothered to ask . It was her life , she shud have been more curious . Even after the seperation they never really met alone to talk or accuse each other . Always , sumone was there . MAnju was there or Savita , or Satish........sumone or the other . What they shud have done was met alone and talked frankly ..........so many things wud be resolved .
I am still waiting for that moment . Unfortunately even now , too many people r crowding them . to add it , even Shravni has joined the crowd .
They actually need to sit quietly in front of Ganpati Bappa , alone , and TALK .
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Posted: 15 years ago
#54
@koolsadhu:
What do you say yaar?? Girl didnt know manavs character... She was with
him for 1 month, wasnt that enough... Didnt she notice that he can do anything
for her happiness.... Working overtime in garage just to arrange money for his wife...
Didnt he say sorry for his mums behaviour, i know it wasnt enough, but didnt Archu
realized that how much he cares for her... He didnt even talked to her in a loud behaviour
and hello... if archu quietly tolerated savita, it wasnt manav s fault, but her fault
for being so weak... If ever had she explained manav what savita do with her, manav wud have
surely helped her and i think you forgot that manav clearly explained his reason how he
landed in brothel.. Remember, he said that he heard sum1 talking that he will ruin archanas life and next
day, he saw dalal with archana and realized sumthing is wrong
and thats how he reached brothel.. He explained everything to her.... And dont you think 1 month was enough
for archu to understand manav scharacter and behaviour??
And yes, you said that manavs background wasnt good enough to marry a girl like archu, but why did you forgot that manav agreed to marry Archu when no one was really interested in her...Archana was not educated, was found in brothel, she had lost all respect.. At that time, mnav agreed to marry her and i agree savita told a lie, but manav did clarify that to archanas baba and he accepted that he is not made for archana, but next day, archanas baba himself proposed manav to marry archu....

Yeah, i totally agree that its not fault of either one, but both of them are equally responsible
for this.... But, more than that its situation and mnajusha which are responsible....
If i wud have lost respect of my family and brother thinking my wife is responsible for this, my reaction wud have been same(little less harsh), as if family is also sumyhing... But, surely not agreed to marry shravani... Thats crappy decision...

Maybe now, when archu is at manavs house, they will sit and talk, surely earlier manav will be hostile to her, but as read in article, misunderstandings will get cleared up and they will become friendly, then they can sit and talk together...... I genuienely like your posts, it seems as if you are speaking your mind out... Nice to debate...
Edited by guptill - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#55
OK now I'll put in a few words of my own..
Both Manav and Archana love each other... both wud go to any extent to keep each other happy... and both have lost a lot cos of circumstances and each other's families.
It is circumstances, villains and to some extent their own behavior which has brought them to this point.
Manav not protesting when his Aai called 'Archana' manhoos... very sad.. but other than feeling sad what else will he say...'Aai dont keep calling Archna manhoos cos I love her.. yes, I know you are very angry and she made the complaint and our family got destroyed but don't say anything bad about her cos I still love her like hell.. even if she destroyed my family..!!' Highly unrealistic in my opinion... he might have defended her if a.) He loved her (here the sitation is that he is not admitting it). b.)Archana was not wrong (here the situation is that he thinks she is wrong) so what do you really expect him to say?? Even Archana never defended Manav in front of Sulochana or Manjusha when they spoke crap about him cos at that time these two points above applied to her... Even Damodar doesn't say anything when she calls her 'manhoos' cos he won't be able to defend her.. and more than that, he knows his wife's tongue is malicious and dirty.. that there is no stopping her. (By the way did you notice that whenever savita calls Archana 'manhoos' they always focus on Manav's face.. he looks lost and his eyes look down.)
Agree with koolsadhu on Sulochana's reaction.. it was completely understandable as a mother... the only thing I didn't like is that the burden of Savita's mistakes was also put on the dirty accusations made on Manav.. which made things very difficult for him.
At the end of the day, I just want Manav and Archana to be together, not go their separate ways and be happy separately, cos that wud be the victory of Savita, Manjusha, Rasika and Ajit... it wud mean that ultimately Manav-Archana's goodness and love loses and the villains succeed yet again. I want to see them together and fighting against all of them and being happy together- they are both good people and frankly speaking they are the only ones who truly think about each other's happiness... (specially Archu thinking about Manav.. Manav's family only knows how to burden him up with responsibilites.. except Damodar to an extent)
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Posted: 15 years ago
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their families only want to use them because they are good selfless people ..how unfair .
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Posted: 15 years ago
#57
@Tanyaz : Agree with you, their families love them, agreed.. but somewhere at the back of their heads everyone thinks these two things:
1.) Manav/Archana will not mind taking responsibility cos they are so good and selfless and for them family is everything
2.)Manav/Archana will abide by OUR decisions cos they love us and trust us and will never refuse us for anything. They will never say no to or choice or our decisions. We have a right to decide their lives.
The former is more true with respect to Manav, while the second is more true with respect to Archana.
You know, the perfect ending to this track wud be: On the day of the marriage, Shravani runs away to America and lives happily with her child.. 😃and ArMan run away to some place faraway and start a new life together leaving behind the proof's of each others innocence with each other's families... with a letter... 'now let us live in peace' and then everyone lives peacefully.😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000[/QUOTE

This whole business of HOW ARCHU EVEN DARED TO DOUBT SWEETU MANAV has to be really studied by us very carefully as we r now analysing this like a PHD thesis .😆

🤣 It sure is fun though , you guys have to admit.
I am sure even Sushant and Ankita have not studies these characters this much...
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Posted: 15 years ago
#59
@nikita:
Ha ha ha.... Well written... But, i dont think that they will leave their families behind....
@tanya:
You have not answered my simple question:
"AGREE ARCHANA IS NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH MANAVS FAMILY, BUT TELL ME IF MANAV HAD NOT MARRIED ARCHANA, HAD ALL THIS CHAOS HAPPENED WITH HIM AND HIS FAMILY??"
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@guptill : Even I know that yaar.. but eventually I think this is what they shud do if they want to live together peacefully in life with no more tragic twists and turns.

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