Neil's Monologue Is Ignorant - Page 2

Originally posted by: Sakurablossom

Courts DO NOT work on perceptions and beliefs and stereotypes. There are objective methods, involvement of psychologist and children welfare people to evaluate the relationship between each parent and child. And always, no matter what, child is the one whose well being is under focus, never mother or father.

There are many verdicts given by high court and supreme court which mentions that interaction between child and parent matter more rather than parent as an individual. That is, Neil might have a heart of gold and a great personality, while Isha might be manipulative b*tch, but what matters more in this custody case is - who is a better caregiver? The fact that Neil hasn't been involved in kia life at all- kia doesn't recognise him, is a huge disadvantage. In real life, it will take a miracle for him to win physical custody of kia.

Last bold part: you are confusing allegations with verdict. Allegations do not as such affect visiting rights. I am here assuming that Isha filed a case of domestic violence ( because writers didn't specify that). In such cases, while Neil wouldn't get physical custody, he would still have visitation rights.

And if at all the allegations were proven and court found that Neil's behavior was actually violent enough to deny him even visitation rights,then it's actually pretty serious and shouldn't be downplayed just because accused is our hero.

And Isha's demands for divorce- alimony and property rights- total malarkey. Even a Google search will tell you that alimony and division of properties doesn't work that way. There were lawyers sitting there and they were silent- WTH. drama ke liye kuch bhi dikhayenge?

So far we have only heard what characters have said so from legal POV everything is vague. Did Isha actually filed a criminal case against Neil? What are the nature of charges? Did court actually deny visitation charges or Isha is illegally not allowing Neil to meet kia?

Also so far potrayal of Isha is very flat. She is a bad woman who is mean towards neil- that's it. No other aspects of her personality are shown,even her scenes with kia always have Neil's presence. We have never seen how Isha and kia interact when no one is around. I can't help but notice that this is very much black and white potrayal like we see in ekta serials.

It is lousy writing to be honest and reminds me of Hanuman accused of imarti's murder. That track was so hyped up, we were speculating that it was a mystery on par with story like Rebecca and then when they revealed the secret, that logic made no sense at all. It was all for drama.

Previously writers have been on point regarding divorce procedure and procedure for removing surname. But now we have this over the top drama with little link to realism so far. If they're indeed interested in showing a legal problem, then better do some basic research. A little realism doesn't hurt.

I find both Isha and this storyline a bit unrealistic and exaggerated to create drama (and after doing such a good job with the abuse storyline, it’s looking a little stupid). Isha coming onto Neil was a bit cringe.

And you’re right a bit of research would have gone a long way to add to the realism, especially when it’s a show that has always shown a bit of realism. They could definitely have created drama in another way, without the over the top divorce/custody.

I didn’t even get how Isha was speaking to Neil at the restaurant. Yes some women use the kid as a weapon, but it’s usually done when the kid is not around. Here right in front of the kid she’s appears to manipulate the two of them? It was a little bit weird

Originally posted by: Del00

I find both Isha and this storyline a bit unrealistic and exaggerated to create drama (and after doing such a good job with the abuse storyline, it’s looking a little stupid). Isha coming onto Neil was a bit cringe.

And you’re right a bit of research would have gone a long way to add to the realism, especially when it’s a show that has always shown a bit of realism. They could definitely have created drama in another way, without the over the top divorce/custody.

I didn’t even get how Isha was speaking to Neil at the restaurant. Yes some women use the kid as a weapon, but it’s usually done when the kid is not around. Here right in front of the kid she’s appears to manipulate the two of them? It was a little bit weird

I believe that Neil may have opted for out of court alimony settlement regarding divorce (which explains why it is taking years for them to get divorced)men actually suffer this I know someone who got married and his wife framed him for domestic violence and he instead of going the court to prove his innocence decided to give whatever she had asked for in exchange of divorce(which included his house, ancestral jewelry and a lump sum amount).

Realistically speaking in India most of the men don't approach the court in fear of being judged by the society and that nobody will believe him hence this unfair set of demands by isha to Neil is what I feel. So far Neil was keeping quite and giving in to all of her demands she got a restraining order against Neil may have blackmailed him regarding all of this. When Neil was revealing his past to mini he did say that he felt his manliness is being questioned by his own wife because she cheated on him which will be one of the reasons of why Neil did not approach the court(fear of being judged)[we still don't know the nature of charges against Neil by isha we are yet to see the whole plot so far we know isha had been cheating Neil, placed false charges maybe illegally denied him visitation rights, from what I understand is that Neil never went for a legal battle and simply gave in to all the unrealistic demands of her in fear of having a criminal record]

As for the child she is fishy she does not even respond to Neil but was fine with mini.

Originally posted by: Priya204

I believe that Neil may have opted for out of court alimony settlement regarding divorce (which explains why it is taking years for them to get divorced)men actually suffer this I know someone who got married and his wife framed him for domestic violence and he instead of going the court to prove his innocence decided to give whatever she had asked for in exchange of divorce(which included his house, ancestral jewelry and a lump sum amount).

Realistically speaking in India most of the men don't approach the court in fear of being judged by the society and that nobody will believe him hence this unfair set of demands by isha to Neil is what I feel. So far Neil was keeping quite and giving in to all of her demands she got a restraining order against Neil may have blackmailed him regarding all of this. When Neil was revealing his past to mini he did say that he felt his manliness is being questioned by his own wife because she cheated on him which will be one of the reasons of why Neil did not approach the court(fear of being judged)[we still don't know the nature of charges against Neil by isha we are yet to see the whole plot so far we know isha had been cheating Neil, placed false charges maybe illegally denied him visitation rights, from what I understand is that Neil never went for a legal battle and simply gave in to all the unrealistic demands of her in fear of having a criminal record]

As for the child she is fishy she does not even respond to Neil but was fine with mini.

I guess it’s just me that this storylines seems not properly thought out to. I don’t know what my expectation was but I feel like the revelation was a bit of an anticlimax. I know it’s still an ongoing story and I’m still watching to see how it all unfolds.

I also don’t know another way to say this but to me, the actor who plays Neil, his acting seems a bit forced recently. I don’t even know if forced is the right word but he doesn’t seem to come across very well with acting this particular types of scenes.

And sorry I don’t wish to offend anyone. I know a lot of people are fans of him and love him. I don’t dislike him at all, it’s just something hasn’t felt right recently.

I couldn’t agree more about the kid. Something tells me maybe its not his? But also it could also be that the kid sees him as a stranger (and kids generally warm to women more than men- generally)

Originally posted by: Del00

I guess it’s just me that this storylines seems not properly thought out to. I don’t know what my expectation was but I feel like the revelation was a bit of an anticlimax. I know it’s still an ongoing story and I’m still watching to see how it all unfolds.

I also don’t know another way to say this but to me, the actor who plays Neil, his acting seems a bit forced recently. I don’t even know if forced is the right word but he doesn’t seem to come across very well with acting this particular types of scenes.

And sorry I don’t wish to offend anyone. I know a lot of people are fans of him and love him. I don’t dislike him at all, it’s just something hasn’t felt right recently.

I couldn’t agree more about the kid. Something tells me maybe its not his? But also it could also be that the kid sees him as a stranger (and kids generally warm to women more than men- generally)

Even I feel the child is not his given isha was already having affairs prior to her pregnancy and Neil is not aware about it.

About the actor I believe art is open to interpretation he has done these types of scenes other shows and has aced it, so far he has done justice to his portrayal of Neil I remember you praising him for his portrayal.

Originally posted by: Priya204

Even I feel the child is not his given isha was already having affairs prior to her pregnancy and Neil is not aware about it.

About the actor I believe art is open to interpretation he has done these types of scenes other shows and has aced it, so far he has done justice to his portrayal of Neil I remember you praising him for his portrayal.

Which is what is so confusing. I love him and have loved him since he entered! He’s just felt a bit off to me recently. It seems that chef Neil and Neil as a person are two very different people. And I still haven’t gotten used to the difference. Chef Neil is strong, confident, arrogant and actual Neil is insecure, soft and lacks confidence. Maybe that’s why I’m finding it difficult to recognise And gel with this Neil. It kind of makes sense though that he could overcompensate (with confidence) in his professional life because he feels secure compared his personal life and feeling very insecure because of Isha. I guess in order for mini to support him he’s got be a bit damaged?

Btw I’m not sure if you can answer this, ive seen somewhere on here about patiala babes stopping filming But can’t locate it now to properly check. Do you know if episodes will be reduced or if they’re stopping it completely?

Originally posted by: Del00

Which is what is so confusing. I love him and have loved him since he entered! He’s just felt a bit off to me recently. It seems that chef Neil and Neil as a person are two very different people. And I still haven’t gotten used to the difference. Chef Neil is strong, confident, arrogant and actual Neil is insecure, soft and lacks confidence. Maybe that’s why I’m finding it difficult to recognise And gel with this Neil. It kind of makes sense though that he could overcompensate (with confidence) in his professional life because he feels secure compared his personal life and feeling very insecure because of Isha. I guess in order for mini to support him he’s got be a bit damaged?

Btw I’m not sure if you can answer this, ive seen somewhere on here about patiala babes stopping filming But can’t locate it now to properly check. Do you know if episodes will be reduced or if they’re stopping it completely?

Actually shoot of all the shows has stopped in early March itself (and actors shot non stop) due to coronavirus threat Friday's episode was the last one before break and shoot will resume only when things get under control new episodes are likely to come towards the end of April of now.

Yes I feel that Neil is a very layered character as a person he lacks confidence and is damaged because of isha(it does happen when someone gets betrayed to this extent) but when he is in kitchen he is confident as he feels things are under his control and he cannot be cheated here. If you remember the episode where mini goes on a night walk and comes across Neil she does tell him that he is a very different person in kitchen and that she feels he has two people living in one man to which Neil answers that when not in kitchen is is just Neil who is emotional but in kitchen he has to behave a certain way to intimidate people as only then they will respect him.

Originally posted by: Priya204

Actually shoot of all the shows has stopped in early March itself (and actors shot non stop) due to coronavirus threat Friday's episode was the last one before break and shoot will resume only when things get under control new episodes are likely to come towards the end of April of now.

Yes I feel that Neil is a very layered character as a person he lacks confidence and is damaged because of isha(it does happen when someone gets betrayed to this extent) but when he is in kitchen he is confident as he feels things are under his control and he cannot be cheated here. If you remember the episode where mini goes on a night walk and comes across Neil she does tell him that he is a very different person in kitchen and that she feels he has two people living in one man to which Neil answers that when not in kitchen is is just Neil who is emotional but in kitchen he has to behave a certain way to intimidate people as only then they will respect him.

Thank you 😊

Yes I do remember the scene now that you mentioned it. I guess this is what he was referring to? I’m kind of glad they’ve done a cheating story, even thought I wish Isha weren’t so over the top. We’ve seen a woman’s perspective of cheating (minis mother) and now we’re seeing a mans perspective. I know what you mean about lacking confidence after being cheated, I know both women and a man who it happened to and it really does mess with their confidence for life and leaves them insecure and distrustful in relationships. It’s crazy how one persons choice can have such an impact on someone else’s life and make the after effects last for years and years.

It’s kind of sad they’ve had to stop filming but people’s lives come first. Are you in lockdown in India? I hope you stay safe 🤗

Originally posted by: Del00

Thank you 😊

Yes I do remember the scene now that you mentioned it. I guess this is what he was referring to? I’m kind of glad they’ve done a cheating story, even thought I wish Isha weren’t so over the top. We’ve seen a woman’s perspective of cheating (minis mother) and now we’re seeing a mans perspective. I know what you mean about lacking confidence after being cheated, I know both women and a man who it happened to and it really does mess with their confidence for life and leaves them insecure and distrustful in relationships. It’s crazy how one persons choice can have such an impact on someone else’s life and make the after effects last for years and years.

It’s kind of sad they’ve had to stop filming but people’s lives come first. Are you in lockdown in India? I hope you stay safe 🤗

Yes I'm in lockdown and hoping for things to get back to normal soon by mid April.

Regarding isha we have just seen her in two episodes and believe me such women actually exist they misuse laws and play woman card. Cheating does mess up a person's confidence they have serious trust issues be it a man or a woman once Neil gets out this mess and isha is exposed for her cheating ways Neil will be a total mess specially if the child is revealed to be someone else's it will shake him up as the child just does not connect with him on the other hand arya bonded with more than mini but here something is fishy.