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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sakurablossom

Of course it does not apply to each and every woman. There are good women and there are bad women too. Just like good men and bad men. After all everyone is a human.

The point is general potrayal of women on TV is pathetic, potrayed as petty, immature people, actively trying to destroy other woman and that is far from the truth. Some women might be like that, but most do not actively try to sabotage other women's happiness. In a way, TV propagates that it's okay for women to plot against other women, it's a part of being women.

The idea about blaming woman for infidelity of husband is very unfair. It literally takes the blame away from the man. In babita- ashok- meeta triangle, initially babita blamed herself but the story stayed by her side and put blame where it belonged- on Ashok. meeta is the another woman, but was Ashok who is more responsible for the mess.. He was the one who was married, he should have stayed loyal to his wife in the first place. Still he gets involved with another woman, hides the fact that he is married and has a child. It gets revealed after 7 years or so and meeta is too much invested into the relationship with Ashok that she couldn't leave him even though her conscience is clear about the fact that what was going on was unfair to babita. Meeta's dilemma is genuine. She's at fault too, but I can't help but sympathize with her. Ashok has, in a way, cheated on meeta as well. Writers could have pitched babita against meeta, but thankfully that didn't happen. Both babita and meeta called out Ashok on many occasions. The level of complexity in this triangle was just too good to be true for Indian tv.


Yes bad ppl exist but The thing that rings true to me is women who act that way are not really bad. I feel like they’re just unhappy and unhappiness has lead to bitterness, where taunting someone else leads to some sort of self gratification. I don’t think this propagation comes just from tv (Altho it often shows it). It exists in everyday life. And I wouldn’t go as far as to say it’s about destroying another woman, possibly to feel better about ones own self or even out of jealousy? I’m not saying real life is like tv (what’s shown on tv is extremely dramatised). I’m sure you’ve encountered women like this before (I know I have, and I live in the uk where life is much more liberal and less conservative).

I agree with you about meeta. When she was introduced the first time, she was introduced sort of as “the other woman” and I personally got the impression that it was her who seduced. The more they showed of her the more i saw that she was also a victim of circumstance also. As was ashok to an extent. It’s not uncommon for men to go abroad, get lonely and meet someone else. His mistake was lying and living a double life (probably torn and facing his own demons because it’s not so easy to divorce in India just because he met someone he actually fell for). If the makers didn’t show ashok as a cruel man, I believe the viewer could have also warned to him. I actually really liked meeta and it was hoping that when babita gets over ashoks betrayal, she and meeta could actually be friends. I thought babita could learn a lot from meeta (different to what mini taught her as it would come from an adult perspective). From what I watched of other Indian shows you are absolutely correct when you say the level of complexity is a bit too much for indian tv. There seems to be a high demand for love story as opposed to complex stories.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjali0111

Ya its a long postsmiley36

But whatever you said was 100 percent correctsmiley14

And please no need to apologize as this forum is for sharing views only.😳

I totally agree with you.

Its always a woman against woman. People keep saying this but after reading your post today i came to realize why is it so. You are right woman arw ao unhappy from the injustice done to them that they cant see any other woman happy. They subject every other woman to same torture which they endured.

Its unfortunate but true.

And that is because they do not have the strength to torture the men around them who are making them unhappy. So they make the other women their target
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Loved your pov.


Honestly I am loving the way makers are pulling all the strings to close the loopholes.

They are giving all justifications now how minni has been forever angry due to her childhood trauma,how kammo is such a flipper character due to the instability of her own life- i am loving it all.


It looks like it was all preplanned.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Itsflora

Loved your pov.


Honestly I am loving the way makers are pulling all the strings to close the loopholes.

They are giving all justifications now how minni has been forever angry due to her childhood trauma,how kammo is such a flipper character due to the instability of her own life- i am loving it all.


It looks like it was all preplanned.


Couldn’t agree more with what you say. And if it wasn’t pre planned. It’s a brilliant bit of writing to tie it all in to make sense.

What’s been upsetting me if fans of babita’s character who has seen this storyline as an attack of her character and her as a parent, which I think is wrong. She too is a victim how how she was brought up, like us all! And as we’ve seen from nehas parents, Kammo, NB’s parents, beeji and even her parents and even poor bobby who was too scared to even tell his parents - this what how previous generations were brought up. They were taught that abuse is a shame/ something to be embarrassed about and hide. Some were even taught that the girl is somehow to blame.

Mini would have probably been the exact same way if she weren’t brought up in an age of the internet, feminism and working abroad. We are all victims of the wrong we are taught in the name of tradition. And the only way to correct is to to break the “tradition” and apply common sense.

I hve also been loving it if I’m honest. I’ve been hoping for a while now that it weren’t going to be about just love and They’ve not disappointed. Never in my wildest dreams did I think it would be abuse. Whenever I’ve seen molestation in serials before it’s been done as a revenge plot / to ruin reputations and I always thought it was disgusting because it’s such a serious topic. I’m so so glad PB has showed abuse in its true ugly light.

As a woman it’s so hard to decide which I’m more sad about, kids being unsafe from ppl like keval or establishments protecting people like him and him being free to take away the innocence of more children

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Posted: 5 years ago
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One of the most important factors behind the overall lack of control of a woman in her life, is the lack of proper education. Most women in our country do not get adequate education, and even out of the few that get, their education is not holistic, often limited to academics only. This leaves them with no preparation for the life that is to come and very few are able to break out of this vicious circle as mentioned so often by you the nice people.


Also, there is a huge disparity in the education of boys and girls. For eg, in the school that I studied in, they had two separate sister institutions forming the girls'-only and boys'-only wings. Here, subjects like Home Science were only offered in our girls' wings. This sort of discrimination further creates a disparity between the male and female sections of the society and hence, the problems that you mentioned.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: proteeti

One of the most important factors behind the overall lack of control of a woman in her life, is the lack of proper education. Most women in our country do not get adequate education, and even out of the few that get, their education is not holistic, often limited to academics only. This leaves them with no preparation for the life that is to come and very few are able to break out of this vicious circle as mentioned so often by you the nice people.


Also, there is a huge disparity in the education of boys and girls. For eg, in the school that I studied in, they had two separate sister institutions forming the girls'-only and boys'-only wings. Here, subjects like Home Science were only offered in our girls' wings. This sort of discrimination further creates a disparity between the male and female sections of the society and hence, the problems that you mentioned.


This actually makes me so sad 😢

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Valid points👏 Good Post👍🏼 Nice to See Such Discussions Possible by This Show😃

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