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Originally posted by: asmaanixx

My heart truly broke for them both today. HS knows that Minnie's departure will be best for her in the long run. However in her absence, Babita will be upset and it will be visible. She can openly express herself in whichever way he wants. But HS? What can he do? He has no choice but to be strong because there's no way that Babita will ever understand him like Minnie. He's going to suffer a lot more than Babita ever will.

It's like a part of his soul is going a way. The dialogues were beautiful, even the imaginary phone call, the dark clouds he will look at on his side while she enjoys good weather in Australia. Could she hear him? Yes, she could. Finally, Minnie heard him, saw his love in its full form.

Originally posted by: inlieu

It would have indeed been beautiful but for some reason KK didn't want to explore that.

The fact that they left so many of his emotions and baggage unresolved and unexplored is what's hurting me. The final door is going to be shut with Minnie leaving. I don't see HS healing at all - he has finally articulated what we've been saying about Babita and his relationship and its lack of depth. I am glad he said it to someone out loud, and Minnie understood.

I just wish his thoughts on the CD issue had been expressed but I take today's scene as encompassing all that and more.

One thing though, even if Minnie leaves in anger, I don't think she can hate him or forget him. The distance and growing a bit older will help her seem in a new light and understand things which she can't today. It will have a major impact in her dealings with Arya, for sure.

Yes we have been speaking about this since long. HS clearly feels the lack of depth with babita. Mini was a solace to him. father daughter or not. And now with her going away he is never really going to heal. I dont see babita stepping up too. HS will be the one putting himself last in this relationship.

Yes mini might never hate him she cant ever but they need to stay in touch through phone calls etc. otherwise it is going to be very devastating for both HS and mini to be cut off like that. Realistic is that they keep in touch, and more realistic is that mini visits in between, but we dont know what added drama they are going to show to make mini- Arya meeting more dramatic. I am worried mini will completely break off and will only come in contact after hanita are dead. That would be really painful for everyone involved

Originally posted by: inlieu

I don't know what the last scene will be like, but this one would serve that purpose. Upcoming ones seem to be full of arguments and more kalesh.

@bold, and they both know it. No matter what anyone else thinks, his reaction, his words, and his approach to the whole thing made him more a father than anything else he has done: he put his child and her happiness and wellbeing first, her needs first. He said heroes don't cry and I don't know why but I got the feeling that Minnie finally saw her hero in him again. I don't know if she'll reverse this opinion because of the letter but something tells me she won't. HS is unlikely to agree with Babita burning the letter or quoting Saroj's words (he should just ban her from the haveli).

I can dissect the hell out of this scene. The dialogues had so many layers to them. HS was talking about transparence on both sides but clearly they both had stopped being 100% transparent with each other. I think it's also part of growing up. After a point you don't tell your parents everything, not because you don't love or trust them, but because your views on life change, or because you don't feel you can communicate with them as you did when you were younger. Parent-child bonds also evolve over time. Also, when he talked about Babita missing her and breaking down if Minnie left, it almost felt as if he was talking about himself there. Again, woh baap hone ka haq nahin jata paaya to ask her to stay back for him - it's a different matter that he wouldn't ever stop her because as a father he wants her to succeed and do better in life.

What I will always hate is the way they made him behave out of character by accusing Minnie of the CD swap. They could have found many other ways of creating the same conflict, distance, etc. but they got lazy.

That's what I was thinking too. As children grow up, their bonding with their parents obviously change. Because Minnie was now coming into adulthood, she could have helped HS with all the trauma he's been repressing a lot better than Babita could. Before, I didn't want Minnie to be anywhere near it because I wanted Babita to step to it and Minnie as a child shouldn't have to. But it's been clear now that Babita will never grow up. She'll always remain a child while Minnie grows into adulthood.

The CD was so useless tbh. They never questioned Babita as to why she had that stupid thing in her cupboard in the first place. And it's not even like she forgot that she had it. She KNEW where it was. Like, the eff was she doing holding onto that stupid thing after all this time??

Originally posted by: naq5

True this is what we have been saying All along. I think HS would have broken down even if they would have established a father daughter bond. He is right now carrying the whole burden of the marriage on himself. Mini was is his partner in crime. And this is even tough on him

Please let mini go on good terms with HS. He won't be able to bear otherwise. It's his fault for hiding the letter he won't forgive himself if mini breaks off with him and goes over it😭

I don't think she will break her connection off with him over the letter, at least I hope not. She might blame him for not being able to read it before Babita burns it though. But still, it won't be enough to make her hate him.

All said and done, HS will feel so terrible that she has to leave under these circumstances, yet knows it's best for her to get away from all this and especially from the toxic relationship with Babita. Minnie can leave but he can't - he will have to stay back with all the heartbreak.

Bande ne itna suffer kiya hai zindagi bhar, woh kaafi nahin tha. Ab aur daalo uske dil par boj.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

After the moment they had today, if Minnie leaves on bitter terms with him.... I don't think I'll be able to handle it. It will be even more heartbreaking because yes, Minnie was already leaving for Australia but now there will be some malaal in her heart too. Against HS for hiding the letter from her and then for Babes too for all the harsh words she'll say to Minnie.

None of them deserve all this heartbreak and I really can't stomach how Babita is being the catalyst of being all this destruction. More than society or anyone else living in it, she single handedly destroyed her own home.

Yes, that's the thing he is afraid of most, that she'd leave with some malaal in her heart.

Originally posted by: naq5

One thing is when mini gets emotional in front of HS she is never able to say much. I today wanted her to hug him and say how much he too means to her.. But she was tongue tied and too emotional to speak. He would have felt so much better if she too had bared her heart out😒

But she doesn't need to. As he said, they are transparent to each other. He can read all the emotions in her eyes. I think the hug the other day was the last one ever.

Ugh...

Originally posted by: naq5

Today HS said they are more than father daughter. I wish mini had said too that he is more than what a father means to her. HS would have got some closure. Mini has not talked about what HS means to her except for the time when she got angry with him after coming to know he loves babes.

I am hoping something about Ashok's letter triggers this.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Or something along the lines of how no matter what, he will always be her hero. Just a little something for him to know how much she loves him. In a way he does, but sometimes it just helps to hear it in actual words too.

HS ke to kaan taras jaayenge ye sunne ke liye.

Can you imagine, HS coming back to a cold empty haveli all over again after Minnie leaves?

Originally posted by: inlieu

AD said ages before this show that he wasn't ready to play father roles but then later he said when the role of HS was offered the material was too good for him not to want to take it up.

Yeah I totally agree, they could have had a unique season two focusing on him and his daughters, their journey together. I know HS would have been mind-blowing to watch in that post-leap avatar, as would have AD. After watching the scene today with his voicing out how hollow this marriage is, I am pretty sure they could have done a brilliant arc for him. HS has resigned himself to living this way now - how is this any better than the way he was living before these two came into his life? What a shame!

The way he's living now is worse than before. Before he never had any hopes for things to go right. He had accepted that Imarti was gone and that he'll never get that happiness again. But then Minnie and Babita came along and stirred up something so deeply powerful within him that even the thought of either of them going away ruins him.

Him saying that they're his akhri umeed of living isn't a joke or a throwaway line. We saw today just how broken he became upon learning that Minnie will be leaving. He's trying to be strong but how can he when his soul is going away? Now, he'll be a shell just like Babita going through the waves of marriage, but there won't be anything truly meaningful. It's all hollow.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

In different circumstances he would have supported whole heartedly. But just take a look at everything that happened in such a short span of time. It has been merely two months since the wedding and there hasn't been a single day that has passed in happiness. Koi na koi kalesh kat tha gaya and HS & Minnie's relationship took the worst hit. It was just never able to recover as it should have.

Neither would I. I would have rejected that application right away for HS. But then there's Babita who is at this point killing Minnie from the inside out. It's not right for Minnie to be suffocated to this extent. She needs some space from her so that she can get some sanity and a strong hold of herself before she completely loses herself. It's such completely tough and tragic situation for everyone involved.

NB gave her the right advice today (as usual). I also think HS would not want her to stay back and miss such an opportunity no matter how much he loves her.

Today he was put in the same position as many parents are when they have to steady their hearts and let their children fly for their better future, just like NB did with Irfan.

I think it would have recovered if she lived with him a bit longer. Babita would have continued to live in her la la land and Minnie and HS would have slowly found their way back. I would like to think the distance is going to make their hearts grow fonder, at least hers, but let's see.