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Originally posted by: nikkiGarg
you are correct but I want to add one quick point…
It takes two to tango… Raavi also did insult him right back at his face every time… only time she was supportive and trying to pacify him was around when she was guilty due to Sneha Kaand and Diary kaand… agreed Shiva behaved bitterly and rashly… but he got into silent zone after divorce papers signatures… she provoked him again and again… dhol kaand, balcony kaand, lehanga kaand… if he insulted her then so did she… I will always maintain that both are equally wrong… only point which is against Shiva is his indirect accusation on her character… apart from that whatever he did … raavi equally replied back…
I may be wrong but that is totally my opinion…
I hundred person agree with you - they both equally provoke each other and have equally wronged each other as well
it just seems like shiva has done more wrong because he is so open and unhibited, while raavi is a bit more subtle but that doesn't mean she doesn't do anything wrong
although one thing I do disagree on is the supportive part, she had some moments in the haveli where she would be on his side
What bothers me really abt ravi is her silent reaction to this disha/reshma/shivani whoever is coming..she is sad..but she is not reacting at all..unlike shivas dreams..she doesn't even seems to ponder abt it..she was sleeping quite well when he went to check on her after his nightmare...and this scares me..😆
Agreed
There are people who are not exactly head over heels in love with their spouses, but that doesn't mean that they want to break away from the marriage either.divorce is a huge decision.its not that easy.
Shiva is right in wanting his wife to love him wholeheartedly and not compromise on her happiness.
Raavi is right in not believing in fairytales after what happened with her and wanting to adjust and make their marriage work.
As this is itv, raavi will love him madly one day, reciprocate his love with the same intensity.she will get there slowly.
PS- can't tag manny and aashu 😟
It was an awesome scene nikki..(I never asked ur name dear..is it nikki? )
Darmiya was just ..and in that scene ravis hope that shiva would stop her..that has a lot in it to say..thats why a part of me still can't believe its just shiva who has feelings for ravi..yes ravi came back for pandya family..for dhara. She is not giving a damn abt shiva..yes all of this is hurting me too.. but her eyes when she felt that tug from behind..the whole family was calling her back..she didn't care..one tug frm shiva was all she needed..later when shiva ignores her, she kept triggering him to fight with her..the ladder scene..ladna..jhagdna..shiva fighting with her was her normal. But loosing him is not normal to her..and she felt herself loosing him many times after this separation..
She came back for dhara..but somewhr I feel, for her to hope for shiva to want her might be a bit too much for her to hope..I feel she is lost here..I dnt knw how much sense I am making here..😆
yes I am nikki… I feel that too… Raavi is impatient.. too quick to jump on conclusions just like Shiva… they are actually a lot alike than different…
she straight away believed that family is celebrating her divorce even though she knew Krish and others are not like that… she burnt the lehanga in her anger.. she did not let dhara speak .. even blamed her for her failed marriage… (not that Dhara is not to be blamed… she and dev are equally responsible for this mess)
but once she realized how wrong she is… she immediately wanted to make amends and that’s what prompted her to comeback…
a small glimpse of this was seen previously as well .. after Shiva came home drunk … next day she blamed Dhara that she got her married to an alcoholic… Dhara was pissed and only time rightly so… but the moment she realized how wrong she was … she immediately apologized…
but at the end of the day, she has to realize she got married to Shiva… its her decision and she has to take full responsibility for it…
no matter how wrong Dhara and Rishita are but in this matter both were correct.. they tried to make Raavi understand this fact in their own ways… unless and until she owns up her marriage… her relationship with Shiva can never become better… and hence the track…
at the end of this track, atleast she will stop blaming Dhara for getting her married to Shiva.. atleast that’s the outcome I am hoping for..
Originally posted by: nikkiGarg
you are correct but I want to add one quick point…
It takes two to tango… Raavi also did insult him right back at his face every time… only time she was supportive and trying to pacify him was around when she was guilty due to Sneha Kaand and Diary kaand… agreed Shiva behaved bitterly and rashly… but he got into silent zone after divorce papers signatures… she provoked him again and again… dhol kaand, balcony kaand, lehanga kaand… if he insulted her then so did she… I will always maintain that both are equally wrong… only point which is against Shiva is his indirect accusation on her character… apart from that whatever he did … raavi equally replied back…
I may be wrong but that is totally my opinion…
Raavi had a huge mu in the start but eevn during haveli times she did show care and concern for shiva even with mu and once that was over she started to feel they could make it work but shiva did the kangan kaand lol after the sneha and diary kaand she kept on trying but all shiva did was fight or insult her and it wasn't her fault half the time shiva mu her interactions with her annoying friends lol then after the break up what could you expect they both were so angry and shiva made it worse by forcing the divorce papers on her and her MU over the celebration over it. Obviously raavi is gonna fight back and with the mu she had she wasn't gonna forgive anytime soon. Even right after she left dhara brought them to the park shiva again attacked her character in his stupid plan to free her. Raavi usually replies back to shivas insults and if she didn't we all would be calling her a doormat so there is no win for her lol
honestly I don't see any reason for raavi to think otherwise ... shiva is expecting too much too soon... unpopular opinion but she should be ok with the divorce.. he said he wants mukti from her that triggered her to another level as viewers we know about shiva's feeling but raavi doesn't. ... how I see is that raavi doesn't want divorce she is just exhausted .Originally posted by: nikkiGarg
honestly I felt she was upset of losing the family not Shiva… she gave her first reaction when Suman mentioned that the girl wants a simple yet full happy family… before that she was just a statue… and robotically asked Suman that how can she tell Prafulla about the girl when she herself doesn’t know much…
I am sorry but I feel she is ok with the divorce…
if an option given to her that she can divorce shiva but can still very much be a part of pandya house, she will take it…
if an option given to her of being adopted by Dhara and Shiva being disowned after divorce… she will take it…
but alas in her case Shiva is her ticket to pandya family so she has to stuck to him….
I love both shiva and raavi but more or less the kaand you have mentioned is done by family Except the balcony oneOriginally posted by: nikkiGarg
you are correct but I want to add one quick point…
It takes two to tango… Raavi also did insult him right back at his face every time… only time she was supportive and trying to pacify him was around when she was guilty due to Sneha Kaand and Diary kaand… agreed Shiva behaved bitterly and rashly… but he got into silent zone after divorce papers signatures… she provoked him again and again… dhol kaand, balcony kaand, lehanga kaand… if he insulted her then so did she… I will always maintain that both are equally wrong… only point which is against Shiva is his indirect accusation on her character… apart from that whatever he did … raavi equally replied back…
I may be wrong but that is totally my opinion…
Originally posted by: nikkiGarg
yes I am nikki… I feel that too… Raavi is impatient.. too quick to jump on conclusions just like Shiva… they are actually a lot alike than different…
she straight away believed that family is celebrating her divorce even though she knew Krish and others are not like that… she burnt the lehanga in her anger.. she did not let dhara speak .. even blamed her for her failed marriage… (not that Dhara is not to be blamed… she and dev are equally responsible for this mess)
but once she realized how wrong she is… she immediately wanted to make amends and that’s what prompted her to comeback…
a small glimpse of this was seen previously as well .. after Shiva came home drunk … next day she blamed Dhara that she got her married to an alcoholic… Dhara was pissed and only time rightly so… but the moment she realized how wrong she was … she immediately apologized…
but at the end of the day, she has to realize she got married to Shiva… its her decision and she has to take full responsibility for it…
no matter how wrong Dhara and Rishita are but in this matter both were correct.. they tried to make Raavi understand this fact in their own ways… unless and until she owns up her marriage… her relationship with Shiva can never become better… and hence the track…
at the end of this track, atleast she will stop blaming Dhara for getting her married to Shiva.. atleast that’s the outcome I am hoping for..
Definitely that's an outcome we can be sure abt at the end of this track..this time when they patch up it will be their own choice..no dhara no dev no family will have a say in it.. yeh tho pakka hein..end to shivas insecurities and end to ravi putting blame on dhara or anyone else for her relation with shiva.
PS. Ravi has always been fast to apologise or say thankyou...u missed the muktheshwar one too. I like that abt her..if she feels guilty she is very brave to accept her fault and apologise.
Originally posted by: Pixiepadhi
Agreed
There are people who are not exactly head over heels in love with their spouses, but that doesn't mean that they want to break away from the marriage either.divorce is a huge decision.its not that easy.
Shiva is right in wanting his wife to love him wholeheartedly and not compromise on her happiness.
Raavi is right in not believing in fairytales after what happened with her and wanting to adjust and make their marriage work.
As this is itv, raavi will love him madly one day, reciprocate his love with the same intensity.she will get there slowly.
PS- can't tag manny and aashu 😟
exactly I mean we all kinda complained when shiva fell so fast and so deep, and we didn't get that slow burn
now when they're actually taking their time with raavi, people want to quicken it up :( it might take her a bit more time to get there but that doesn't mean she won't be in as much or even more love with shiva
and what was shiva's declaration of love? lol that's she like dhara bhabhi? ya okay, no thanks
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