Azaadi Discussion: A Glance @ Our Past!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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As we celebrate the 58th Anniversary of Pakistan, Lets turn around and see the history of the beloved nation and lets remember the people who have shaped it beautifully and has bring to the nation to what it is today!

Looking back in the last century, when the Muslim League was first formed in 1906 by Agha Khan to safeguard the political rights of Muslims in India. Its first leader was our National poet, Allama Mohammed Iqbal, who introduced the idea of separate Muslim nation in 1930. By 1940, the league had gained much support under the leadership of Qaid-e-Azam Mohammed Ali Jinnah, who wanted to make Iqbal's dream a reality and demanded for the separate Muslim-India despite of the oppositions of Indian Congress. The League won most of the votes in 1946 and lead to the establishment of Pakistan on August 14, 1947; Jinnah then became the governor-general and Liaquat Ali Khan as the first Prime Minister.

During the partition, about 7.5 Million Muslims migrated to Pakistan from many different cities including Junagadh, Hyderabad and Kashmir; and about 10 Million Hindus left Pakistan for India. During this, India Pakistan Wars started when Hindu ruler signed over Kashmir to India while majority of it was Muslims; and this conflict stays unresolved.

In my opinion, these two were one of the major history events that have mostly influenced our present. Of course, building of the nation was the key event but the bases upon which the nation was formed still is worth defining. The main purpose of having a separate nation was to save our religion (Shariah), language and Muslim's political rights…

Do you think the idea of separting Muslims and Hindus was a good Idea, when these both nations were living together for ages? Only for the outsiders, was it right to break a bond, which was made centuries ago?

Do you think have we accomplished in making our Heroes efforts and dreams true?

Share the event or a historical figure which/who is most effective in your opinion and why?

Please post your ideas and opinions rather than copy/paste the long articles from net.


Edited by Ms. Bholi Bhali - 19 years ago

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Nice article Amreen
1-NO, a big no coz the reason Pkaistan came into power and became a separate nation its not ful filled yet. we (our elders) fought for. i think now the politicians just think of filling in their accounts and just to save their SO CALLED KURSI.
n 1 thing i want to share with u lot that i just came to know it weeks ago that the AZAN we now hear on Television is because of Zia. he actually made this law and just note that on PTV the News caster reads Bismillah. he actually said this and he cmae into power much later.
2-i think the Kashmir 1 was most important and effective becasue it's still unresolved and caused this rift between India and Pakistan
I think ONly Kashmiris had, have and will have the right to decide with whom they wanna live not the countries to decide their fate. with whom they are gonna live and well every1 knows who they wanna live with...
anyways this was my opinion so please dont mind if anyone feels that i was being rude or anything.
Aji
Edited by scorpion134 - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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nice article!!!! 👏

1. after reading history i think the creation of pakistan as a seperate independent muslim state was necessary cuz the rights of muslims in subcontinent was not available to them n there was a fear that they might lost their identity as muslims without seperation but yes i think after partition they must become friendz cuz they r living with each other for centuries, they both share a magnificent past of centuries.

2.no, the aim is not fulfiled yet n the reason for this is our so called leaders who only cares about them n not for the nation. pakistan hasnt got any good leader after the death of Liaquat Ali Khan.

3.i must say KASHMIR is main issue cuz it is the only reason that why india n pakistan not become freinds yet.i think that the the right of residents of kashmir to decide their fate must given to them. this is the only way to solve this problem so pak-india becomes friends n the most of their budget which goes to defence purposes will utilize in the development of the country.

well thats what i feel....sorry if i hurt u or bieng rude to u


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Posted: 19 years ago
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With my Due apologies to Every one..
Saba dont be sad..

Azadi sab ko hai pyari,
Jis tarah hai azaadi pyaari,
Saba Di bhi humay hai usi tarah pyaari,
Mod humari, Ek Nazuk Si Saheli,
Saba Humari hai sab say pyaari.....

Bas yaar ab kahungi toh yeh off topic hojayega..So line pay aarahi hun..


Happy Independence day to all my Pakistani friends..
Thanx for the topic.

The question about seperating the Two nation is still unsoved..
I want to ask every one..
Kya mila is aazaadi say, Kya dosti karnay say pehlay hum Sirf Indian ya sirf Pakistani hai isliye ek doosray ko resist kar saktay hai nahi na..I really think that Jo hogaya so hogaya ab humay ya humaray dilon ko koi badal nahi sakta..
Insaaniyat sab say barda jazba hota hai ya woh hindu ya muslim kay beech ho..

Jinnah saab ek Bahut hi seculiar Insaan thay, woh Gandhiji kay Jaise hi achchay insaan thay..humay yeh nahi bhoolna chahiye ki Batwaaray say pehlay hum sab ek hi zameen par rahtay thay na woh zameen jab Pakistaan thi na woh Hindustaan thi..Aur Yeh batwaara Humay Bina Jinnah Saab kay ya bina Gandhiji kay mil sakta tha..Nahi yeh Mulk jo humara Dayera woh humaray great leaders ki taraf say hi mila hai..Humay is dor may Woh hi leaders chahiye Jo Jinnah saab ki tarah kahay ki na " Pakistan ho ya Hindustan har koio apni marzi ka maalik hai..Muslims ko Masjid jaanay say koi nahi rokayga, Hindus ko Mandir jaanay say koi nahi rokayga aur na hi Christians ko Koi Church jaanay rokayga......"

Atlast I want to say Jo bhi log na ittayfaqh kartay hai unka koi mazhab ya koi mulk nahoi hota............woh toh sirf dehshat gard hotay hai..

even the political leaders every where is corrupted, sab sirf any future kay baaray may sonchtay hai...

Is waqt aisa leader chahiye jo watan say mohabbat aur Logon say Ittefaaq rakhay tab hi Hum sahi tor par azaadi ka jashan mana payengay..

Bas aabhi pakaungi nahi..


Saher...
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Posted: 19 years ago
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well Saher u said that aisa leader chahiye...ittefaq rakhay
so u know what happens to the people who r sincere with thier jobs and want to do good for the AWAAM
the example is Zia
every one knows how he died and who was involved in it
so i'll better keep my mouth shut 😉
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: scorpion134

well Saher u said that aisa leader chahiye...ittefaq rakhay
so u know what happens to the people who r sincere with thier jobs and want to do good for the AWAAM
the example is Zia
every one knows how he died and who was involved in it
so i'll better keep my mouth shut 😉

Who was involved in his death?

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Posted: 19 years ago
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plz Saba i wanna live some more
why do u want me to die so soon by tellin u
by the way to know how he died just watch news, programs related to politics on Geo and Ary Digital
u'll know urself 😊
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: scorpion134

plz Saba i wanna live some more
why do u want me to die so soon by tellin u
by the way to know how he died just watch news, programs related to politics on Geo and Ary Digital
u'll know urself 😊

Nahain I know he died in a crash. but u said, there was somone behind it. thats why I want to know, who was. Please Baatao tu. I really want to know. u can pm me if you want. :D just to be on safe side.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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😆 Its soo funny, when I asked my dad this, he said something about it and then he asked "why are you asking? are you gonna write it on the computer?" 😆 😆
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: amreen1409

😆 Its soo funny, when I asked my dad this, he said something about it and then he asked "why are you asking? are you gonna write it on the computer?" 😆 😆

lol

U asked him about ZIa or Pakistan's History?

He knows keh un ki beti kidhar hoti hai. her waqat.

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