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Posted: 10 months ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

None of those other KRQ stories were sold as never before seen love stories.

KrQ has written FL-centric scripts where men still get elevated. But the difference is in his ML centric stories, MLs get an arc.. In his FL centric stories, one sided selfless lovers get no arc. They are just there for the FL to react against and grow.

In PA, Afzal gets rejected but he gets his whole growth arc. In Mann Jali, Faris is unsuccessful in love but his character gets no arc. He is the same selfless lover till the end that Mehwish returns to.

But Bilal has gotten an arc. He has completely changed himself from how he was at the beginning of the show. It’s Sadaf who is confusing everyone .

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Posted: 10 months ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

Exactly. I keep saying it is Sadaf's story.

Throughout, we are being shown how Sadaf's feelings for BA are changing. The contestation between her growing feelings for BA vs. her prejudice towards his character is one of the main conflicts driving story arc.

Meanwhile, BA's feelings get no arc. He started his blushing in e2 and was giggling and finger writing her name in e3. Even though based on how much of Sadaf's face he saw in e1, he wouldn't even have been able to pick her out of a police line-up until e5. But I guess in this world, being Naamdar's daughter is the Patronus Charm - knowing that an attractive girl is Naamdar's daughter is all that a man like BA (who had such deep distrust of women) needs to fall in love for the first time, where he never even feels a moment of doubt.

I have read this trope so many times. In all other genre fiction where this tortured hero trope is used and it's not a FL-centric story, you get to see how the man struggles with even recognizing his feelings. He's used to seeing women a certain way, so why this one seems different, he can't fathom at first. He is confused why he can't stop thinking about her. At first, he fights against his feelings and tries to bracket her like all other women. The contestation between his feelings of distrust for women and his growing respect, admiration and affection for this particular woman is a main conflict that drives his arc. Having some interactions with the leads at this stage is important so he gets to see this woman is more than just an object but is morally upstanding, loyal, trustworthy, worthy of respect (and no, just being xyz's daughter doesn't cut it). Then comes THE moment of recognition and acceptance that these feelings he is fighting are indeed love. This whole arc is what is entirely missing from the narrative. Instead, all we get is Expecto Patronum.

Only after he recognizes it's love, should the second conflict have arisen where BA struggles with confessing his love to her or feeling inadequate or that he is not good enough for her. This then propels further growth in him - that he needs to change if he were to deserve this woman. But we never got to see how the cktr struggled to go from being an addict to being sober, how quitting alcohol made him ill and took a toll on him, how he was tempted, but he still persevered and went through painful withdrawal and cravings because he wanted to be deserving of this one woman's love.

Phir dikhate that now he is sober, he decides that it's time he confesses his feelings to her. Over time they should have shown BA and Sadaf built a camaraderie over the phone. Maybe she could have given him some positive words of encouragement during his addiction recovery. So he now thinks he will get a positive reception when he finally proposes. He is giddy and elated before visiting her because that moment his dreams come true is coming. If he wasn't sure of her feelings, he would have been nervous, antsy, unsure whether he'll get accepted or rejected. Not giddy. This was partly a writing but mainly an execution issue.

Since BA's arc never really got any attention, but we got to see since the beginning how Sadaf's feelings for BA are evolving. Yes, BA's feelings may go unreciprocated first then reiprocated later, but there is not change in how he himself feels about Sadaf. It's a straight line. A constant. What changes throughout is Sadaf's reaction to him. There's a graph to it.

So, the stages of love will be Sadaf's not Bilal's. Though Haseeb seems to be using stages of grief instead to show Sadaf's love graph.

  • Denial
  • Anger
  • Bargaining
  • Depression
  • Acceptance:

I hear you and I agree with some of your thoughts. Too much time was spent on secondary characters when the focus should have been on Bilal. That being said, the story is working for me and is convincing enough. To be honest, the one making the most sense is Bilal Abdullah to me. Could they have concentrated on Bilal Abdullah more effectively? Absolutely but there’s enough there for his character to appear convincing to me. It’s in no way perfect but the fact that I’m feeling so much for Bilal Abdullah means that there is enough there for me to connect with. I do feel it’s his journey too though along with Sadaf’s too, but it’s Bilal Abdullah’s feelings that we have more clarity on so it makes you feel like you’re a part of that journey
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Posted: 10 months ago

I thought that the bone marrow twist would be kept till the end but not only it got revealed but Sadaf still got manipulated. So how exactly would she fall in love with Bilal now ??

Edited by 2RsFan - 10 months ago
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Posted: 10 months ago

I do agree with you on a majority of points..even if it is a case of one sided love story, there should be interaction between the leads to show a proper build up which we haven't gotten in smd..instead we are force-fed scenes of humsha, ammar, zaviyar..even in yesterday's episode in the scene between Bilal and zaviyer, I thought we would get some more to the backstory of his father but they barely touched it before ammar interrupts them..

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Posted: 10 months ago

Originally posted by: 2RsFan

I thought that the bone marrow twist would be kept till the end but not only it got revealed but Sadaf still got manipulated. So how exactly would she fall in love with Bilal ??

I thought that was the point of holding back the bone marrow donor info. I think Sadaf will just start seeing for herself…eventually
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Posted: 10 months ago

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

I thought that was the point of holding back the bone marrow donor info. I think Sadaf will just start seeing for herself…eventually

Ya but she is still doubting him. In the next episode, she thinks he would seek revenge.

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Posted: 10 months ago

Originally posted by: 2RsFan

But Bilal has gotten an arc. He has completely changed himself from how he was at the beginning of the show. It’s Sadaf who is confusing everyone .


Sadaf is confusing because her feelings are the one that's supposed to grow and change. The bad writing and execution makes it confusing. BA's feelings are a constant, they never change or grow, so there is no confusion, despite the bad writing and execution.

Arc doesn't mean flipping an on/off switch. BA finds out Sadaf is Naamdar's daughter, and voila, all his past traumas and distrust of women automatically go away. He decides to quit drinking, and voila, he is sober. Easy peezy. That's not an arc. Arc means showing the journey and change process. The growth journey.

In particular, there is no love arc for BA. BA's feelings for Sadaf have been a constant since the beginning. He was in love with Sadaf too soon especially given his history of distrusting women. He never felt any conflict or doubts about his feelings for her given his past trauma and distrust of women. He never fought against his feelings for her because he thinks women are distrustful. He never struggled to understand his feelings for her given he doesn't believe in love or hasn't been in love before.

Edited by hypnotoad - 10 months ago
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Posted: 10 months ago

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

I thought that was the point of holding back the bone marrow donor info. I think Sadaf will just start seeing for herself…eventually

I previously thought the bone marrow donor reveal will lead to the rain dance as she realizes HOW MUCH this guy gave to her family. But yahan toh she thought he gave bone marrow as another ploy to phansaofy her smiley39

You would think after 3 months her brother spend with BA (and she must have talked to her brother every day and heard how great BA was being to him), she would have been more conflicted and ambivalent about believing Humsha's lies. At least she could have tried to (weakly) defend BA against Humsha's fabrications. But she fell for her lies quicker than the first time Humsha told her this and when Sadaf didn't even know BA well.

Edited by hypnotoad - 10 months ago
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Posted: 10 months ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

I previously thought the bone marrow donor reveal will lead to the rain dance as she realizes HOW MUCH this guy gave to her family. But yahan toh she thought he gave bone marrow as another ploy to phansaofy her smiley39


If he had to really phansaofy her, he could have done it for the 8 crores. Why waste so much time and even risk your life for her brother ? smiley36


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Posted: 10 months ago

SMD epi 14 is trending in India at 17

And epi 13 is trending in India at 29.

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