Khuda Aur Mohabbat 3| Discussion Thread #3 - Page 17

So I watched the trailer again, Mahi throwing away her wedding dress and saying nahi chahiye koi bhi raang, and her luggage is packed around her too, that’s probably her ruksati. So most probably she’ll learn about Feedi’s death on her Ruksati and will refuse to go to her in laws. That’ll only mean that Feedi will leave before wedding.

So those who were waiting for the first paro scene, it might never happen at all 🤣, because he’ll leave.

And I’ve new theory in my mind, it’s possible Taimoor is not dead but he’d bed ridden and Mahi is all colorless because she considers herself Feedi’s widow 🤪🤣🤣. Okay I’ll shut up 🤫

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor

I promise this will be my final essay on the Haute bites, sorry guys for this annoying long posts, please skip if this annoys you all.

About Hassan saying that Dilawar agar Farhad play karta toh 🤪. Hassan, is he trying to say that Mahi is only tolerating Feedi because he is good looking? Kya that woh debate mereko samajh nahi aya. Hassan you have watched the show na? For Mahi, Feedi is not her driver, for gods sake he is the man who she knew more as a friend, his job is a driver's one but well, his interactions with Mahi has been all as her partner in crime, Mahi shook her hand with him, Mahi wouldn't dare do that with any vela anywhere right?😆

For Mahi Feedi is her ashiq, not the driver, she knows that may be not by class, but by honor he had earned that place where she could consider him more than a servant. Mahi does not feel harassed by him, she only feels sorry (as Aamna said) and not only sorry, she has affection for him, that is why his disgust and his curse has affected her, varna ek faltu mulazim cursing me, who would bother? Mahi knew that he had an important place somewhere in her life, and she just could not know how to deal with him. I disagree with Aamna, it wasn't her kindness that made Mahi treat Farhad like a friend, it was Mahi's slow but gradual fall for him, I repeat he is the first man and only man who has said her 'I love you', who has went full on rebel just for her validation (he did not even wnat to marry her or anything), just her acceptance that she validates his feelings, a woman has her firsts, first, man, first, kiss, first break up, first tragedy, for Mahi her first everything is Farhad, and she does not despise or loathe him that very fact signifies that she has not been harassed, she felt helpless because she wants to validate his love but her restrictions are higher and stronger than Farhad's love, that is it. Hassan mere bhai, please dekhliya karo show with attention, 15 year old baccho ki tarha nahi, ek adult ki tarha dekho, with no judgement, you will see Mahi's stance too.

I think Hassan made a really good point about audiences forgiving bad characters just because they are good looking or because of the actor who plays them. In Beykhudi, people were actually supporting Noor Hassan even though what he did was beyond disgusting. Put a less popular or attractive guy instead of him and people would not forgive him. The actor Penn Badgley from the show YOU spoke about the same thing. Fans actually sympathized with his character and fans downplayed his filthy actions just because he is the one playing a despicable character. I think audiences need to learn to take away the so called "hero" from the character and see them for who they are on the show.

Originally posted by: Arshi1195

I think Hassan made a really good point about audiences forgiving bad characters just because they are good looking or because of the actor who plays them. In Beykhudi, people were actually supporting Noor Hassan even though what he did was beyond disgusting. Put a less popular or attractive guy instead of him and people would not forgive him. The actor Penn Badgley from the show YOU spoke about the same thing. Fans actually sympathized with his character and fans downplayed his filthy actions just because he is the one playing a despicable character. I think audiences need to learn to take away the so called "hero" from the character and see them for who they are on the show.

Hassan definitely has a point, people have definitely glorified characters just because good looking actors played them, but Hassan has chosen the wrong examples. His examples are Zaroon, Asher, Hamza, Mir Hadi, and honestly, when Asher and Mir Hadi happened, Fawad and Feroze were still not as big as they are today. The characters he chose as an example all had human arcs, arcs that made them redeem their bad/unlikable actions, I repeat, characters only deserve forgiveness if they truly repent and show remorse and all of the above characters did, then why did Hassan blame the audience, the writers justified Asher/Zaroon and Mir Hadi, so why cannot the audience? The writer did not justify Hamza though, yet gave him a redemption arc.

Coming back to YOU and Joe goldberg, he is disgusting and sick, a serial killer, he cannot have and he did not have anything close to what can be called redeemable, I wonder which people have actually sympathized with him 🤢. It is disturbing, he was scary and terrible. I did not watch beykhudi though, but I trust you when you say that some disgusting act was sympathized. Also, I remember the ITV show saubhagybhati bhava, omg that abusive and rapist woman beater was glorified and the good male lead died, it was so disturbing and pathetic I cannot even tell you.

Coming back to this show, the whole debate is that neither Asher, nor Zaroon, and not even Farhad has done anything disgusting that they cannot be forgiven, choosing to crucify a character because he gave a baddua is again an opinion, but it is no way a sin and criminal to not get an reasoning by the writer. Asher mistrusted his wife, Zaroon was chauvinistic, Hamza was borderline aggressive, but yet none of them crossed that boundary where they came of as inhumane and disgusting to the point of no return, they had redemption arcs and Hassan failed to see that arc and blamed the audience.

Hassan definitely has a point when he says that good looking actors sell a problematic character, but audience makes the character iconic only when the writer wants to make it iconic, that is my opinion, and I agree with your opinion too. Instead of going with Asher, Zaroon or Farhad, Hassan should have gone with characters like the ones you have mentioned, his point was right but he chose wrong characters.

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor

So I watched the trailer again, Mahi throwing away her wedding dress and saying nahi chahiye koi bhi raang, and her luggage is packed around her too, that’s probably her ruksati. So most probably she’ll learn about Feedi’s death on her Ruksati and will refuse to go to her in laws. That’ll only mean that Feedi will leave before wedding.

So those who were waiting for the first paro scene, it might never happen at all 🤣, because he’ll leave.

And I’ve new theory in my mind, it’s possible Taimoor is not dead but he’d bed ridden and Mahi is all colorless because she considers herself Feedi’s widow 🤪🤣🤣. Okay I’ll shut up 🤫

I too feel that taimoor can be bed ridden like zibda lash .so only feedis dua bring him back .thats his cure.

🥺Milna toh chahiye na yr they dare to cut 😡

But nikah toh hota hai na yr sign hota hai

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor

Charu I think you’re missing the point here, he didn’t give baddua because Mahi rejected him, if that would be the case then it would happen in the first rejection itself. He cursed her only after he hits Rick bottom, she demeaned his emotions, yahape we are not justifying his words, we’re resonating it out, aisa nahi hosakta ke koi tumhe 10 gaali de aur tum ek bhi na do. The entire context of the baddua can only be understood in the episode but from the promo itself it’s obvious that his baddua wasn’t because he got rejected, he wasn’t their fir acceptance anyway.

And again, cursing someone or verbally abusing someone are very much human actions, it will be justified if not by us by someone else, but that doesn’t make these practices right though. It’s very harsh to curse someone and what he did is wrong, and he’ll suffer the consequences, I think we all and even Aamna pointed the very fact out that he will bear the consequences. However, when you want to crucify his actions you’ve to see both the ends, he has not reacted that way because she rejected his love, it’s because the way she did it, rest everything is already being debated and it’ll be in debate for how long only time will tell.

Haan toh my dear what option did he leave with Mahi? First time around if he left from there , mahi wouldn't have to resort to such extremities. Wo jaa hi nai raha wahan se , angad ke jaise wahin jama hua hai fevicol ka mazboot jod banke , what else can she say ? Why is he looking for a yes In her no? This isn't only about loving him, this is also about leaving everything behind , when her wedding date has been fixed ..khud marega usko bhi Marva dega... ye koi pyar hai ?

First time when Mahi said main dafan ho gayi tumhare liye did not mean that he will ask her to meet again and again and plead...what if her family knows? Ye parda rakhna hai usne pardanasheen ka? If anything uska satyanash hona chahiye for this insane behavior. Mahi ne jo kiya theek kiya.... Ab iske baad if mahi falls in "love" with this guy , durr phitte muh on the writer 🤢

Originally posted by: Arshi1195

I think Hassan made a really good point about audiences forgiving bad characters just because they are good looking or because of the actor who plays them. In Beykhudi, people were actually supporting Noor Hassan even though what he did was beyond disgusting. Put a less popular or attractive guy instead of him and people would not forgive him. The actor Penn Badgley from the show YOU spoke about the same thing. Fans actually sympathized with his character and fans downplayed his filthy actions just because he is the one playing a despicable character. I think audiences need to learn to take away the so called "hero" from the character and see them for who they are on the show.

I have yet to see that episode but what Hassan said , it's a fact..the thing is , what is problematic for some , is humane for others. Asher zaroon Mir hadi or humza.. they had a redemption arc , but they were not dark characters.

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor

I promise this will be my final essay on the Haute bites, sorry guys for this annoying long posts, please skip if this annoys you all.

About Hassan saying that Dilawar agar Farhad play karta toh 🤪. Hassan, is he trying to say that Mahi is only tolerating Feedi because he is good looking? Kya that woh debate mereko samajh nahi aya. Hassan you have watched the show na? For Mahi, Feedi is not her driver, for gods sake he is the man who she knew more as a friend, his job is a driver's one but well, his interactions with Mahi has been all as her partner in crime, Mahi shook her hand with him, Mahi wouldn't dare do that with any vela anywhere right?😆

For Mahi Feedi is her ashiq, not the driver, she knows that may be not by class, but by honor he had earned that place where she could consider him more than a servant. Mahi does not feel harassed by him, she only feels sorry (as Aamna said) and not only sorry, she has affection for him, that is why his disgust and his curse has affected her, varna ek faltu mulazim cursing me, who would bother? Mahi knew that he had an important place somewhere in her life, and she just could not know how to deal with him. I disagree with Aamna, it wasn't her kindness that made Mahi treat Farhad like a friend, it was Mahi's slow but gradual fall for him, I repeat he is the first man and only man who has said her 'I love you', who has went full on rebel just for her validation (he did not even wnat to marry her or anything), just her acceptance that she validates his feelings, a woman has her firsts, first, man, first, kiss, first break up, first tragedy, for Mahi her first everything is Farhad, and she does not despise or loathe him that very fact signifies that she has not been harassed, she felt helpless because she wants to validate his love but her restrictions are higher and stronger than Farhad's love, that is it. Hassan mere bhai, please dekhliya karo show with attention, 15 year old baccho ki tarha nahi, ek adult ki tarha dekho, with no judgement, you will see Mahi's stance too.

i dont know why ammna not pointing out this is she waiting for more epi because writters clearly showing it mahi start falling for feedi .or may be she is confuse like many as writter also show us that mahi blushing & running for taimoor also .

But we have to accept it mahi accepted taimoor because of faimly . Just like ppl saying it bhabhi & fakera bharo dimaag for feedi than bhabhi & sajal also bharo her dimag for taimoor 😆

yes its farhad her frist she will never ever to forget him .

Yr stalking & harssing is very big word & its comes with sexual advance .feedi not like that yes his very stupid & imature which he clearly is

Originally posted by: Arshi1195

I think Hassan made a really good point about audiences forgiving bad characters just because they are good looking or because of the actor who plays them. In Beykhudi, people were actually supporting Noor Hassan even though what he did was beyond disgusting. Put a less popular or attractive guy instead of him and people would not forgive him. The actor Penn Badgley from the show YOU spoke about the same thing. Fans actually sympathized with his character and fans downplayed his filthy actions just because he is the one playing a despicable character. I think audiences need to learn to take away the so called "hero" from the character and see them for who they are on the show.

But as human ppl try to understand what the psychology .

Hero meaning is changed now now hero is jiske aaspass story ghumti hai

Originally posted by: Unique.Sheep

So its a bit like Khani, even that had stages of love😆

But agar OST ke lyrics pe ghor karo, it does emphasize the comparison between love and God ie love brings you closer to God.

In the first KAM, it was his love for her that brought him closer to God because she was a religious girl and he had to become religious in order to win her and her famillies heart (as she belonged to a religious family)

But i guess here it will be his heartbreak which brings him closer to God

In that one he became religious and humble in love, here he will turn junooni😆

Karon Sajda Aik Khuda Ko

Perhon Kalma Ya Main Dua Don

Dono He Aik Khuda Aur Mohabbat

This is the only verse which is common in both osts, warna the first one was all about doing ibadat and sajda in love...this one talks more about obsessiveness

& i feel its more like ranjhna movie in that movie boy clearly was very stupid imature nas kaat lena , latto ki tarah asspass ghumte rahna .atleast we can appriciate our feedi is not like that nas was nahi kaat raha hai 😆 But in both case guy loves girls very deply

movie me hero ki galti se girl ke love interest ki death hoti & he go for his journey & become leader

Here too feedi ki baddua ki wazah se death hogi ( aisa feedi sochega) & he go for his journey

Originally posted by: _charu_

Haan toh my dear what option did he leave with Mahi? First time around if he left from there , mahi wouldn't have to resort to such extremities. Wo jaa hi nai raha wahan se , angad ke jaise wahin jama hua hai fevicol ka mazboot jod banke , what else can she say ? Why is he looking for a yes In her no? This isn't only about loving him, this is also about leaving everything behind , when her wedding date has been fixed ..khud marega usko bhi Marva dega... ye koi pyar hai ?

First time when Mahi said main dafan ho gayi tumhare liye did not mean that he will ask her to meet again and again and plead...what if her family knows? Ye parda rakhna hai usne pardanasheen ka? If anything uska satyanash hona chahiye for this insane behavior. Mahi ne jo kiya theek kiya.... Ab iske baad if mahi falls in "love" with this guy , durr phitte muh on the writer 🤢

That’s what the character is Charu, as I said you can crucify him and I can justify him, but it all comes to the way his journey ends. After all he’s wrong here and we all know it but I respectfully disagree with anything Mahi said, two wrongs can never make anything right. As I have said, let’s wait for the story to unfold, dekhte hai kya hota hai agey.

Also to disappoint you, it’s a given now that Mahi will fall for him so it’ll be another topic of long arguments I guess 🤣