Chit & Chat #3 - Page 96

Australia are too good at at home. I think if Pakistan can beat Australia then might as well just give them the cup right there. 😆 What would be interesting is if Pakistan can beat Australia then they may just have to face India in the semi finals..again. And if you can beat Australia in their background then there should be no reason whatsoever to lose to India for the 7th time in a row in a world cup match. Of course this is all hypothetical at this point because Pakistan is yet to face Ireland in a league match which decides a lot.

This is all too much tension for my brain 😆

Originally posted by: OnlyHope

This is all too much tension for my brain 😆

If they win, they go up against Aussies, which is just 🤔 I mean what are the odds?

And if they lose...I don't want them to lose 😳

Fari: If they lose to Ireland.. They will have to face NewZealand I think.

Originally posted by: starstruckk

Australia are too good at at home. I think if Pakistan can beat Australia then might as well just give them the cup right there. 😆 What would be interesting is if Pakistan can beat Australia then they may just have to face India in the semi finals..again. And if you can beat Australia in their background then there should be no reason whatsoever to lose to India for the 7th time in a row in a world cup match. Of course this is all hypothetical at this point because Pakistan is yet to face Ireland in a league match which decides a lot.

lol that will be a big thing If they defeat Aussies in their homeground. But facing India will be another big challenge in semis. They are in terrific form and Pakistanis can't handle pressure.

My mom predicts because of how much betting Pak vs. Ind matches get, they might set it up to have them play in the semi's.

This is going to clear all the confusions.

Here's what the teams need to do to go through to the quarter-finals

he four-week group stage of the World Cup is almost over, but with only two matches left, a couple of spots are still up for grabs in Pool B. Pakistan, Ireland, and West Indies are in contention to take the last two places in the group. If Cyclone Pam arrives earlier than expected and washes out West Indies' last match, against UAE, then Pakistan and Ireland will sail through regardless of the result of that match. If however, West Indies win that game, things will get more interesting in the group. Here's what the teams need to do to go through to the quarter-finals:

Pakistan
Currently on 6 points, NRR -0.194

Pakistan are the best placed of the three teams, as they already have six points, and the best net run rate among the three. If they win, they are through as the third-placed team in the group and will play Australia in Adelaide; if they lose and if West Indies win, the team with the better NRR will make the next stage as the fourth team, and will play New Zealand in Wellington.

The result margins that will work for Pakistan

Given that Pakistan's current NRR is -0.194, and West Indies' is -0.511, Pakistan have some margins to play with, even if they lose and West Indies win.

If for instance, West Indies score 300 against UAE and win by 50 runs, Pakistan, chasing Ireland's 300, will need to score at least 274 to ensure their NRR stays ahead West Indies'.

If West Indies chase down a target of 251 in 40, Pakistan, after scoring 250, will have to ensure that Ireland take at least 46 overs to chase it down.

However, if West Indies win by an even bigger margin - around 75 or more runs when batting first, or by around 81 balls to spare when batting second (depending on the actual scores) - then their NRR will improve to such an extent that Pakistan will need a win or a tie.

West Indies
Currently on 4 points, NRR -0.511

To begin with, West Indies need to beat UAE to have any chance of qualifying. A win will lift them to six points, and if Pakistan beat Ireland, West Indies will qualify as the fourth team regardless of the result margins, as Ireland's NRR is well below West Indies'. If Ireland beat Pakistan, though, the result margins will come into play.

The result margins that will work for West Indies
If West Indies score 300 and win by 50 runs, and Ireland score 300 batting first, West Indies will have to hope that Pakistan fold for 273 or fewer, so that their NRR slips below West Indies'. Similarly, if West Indies chase down a target of 251 in 40, they'll want Ireland to chase a similar target in 45.5 or fewer overs.

If West Indies win by an even bigger margin - around 75 or more runs when batting first, or by around 81 balls to spare when batting second (depending on the actual scores) - then their NRR will improve to such an extent that an Ireland win by any margin will suffice to push Pakistan out.

Ireland
Currently on 6 points, NRR -1.014

Ireland have done superbly to win three games, but their problem is their poor net run rate, which is by far the worst among the three. That means they need to beat Pakistan, or hope that West Indies don't get two points from their game against UAE. If West Indies beat UAE and Ireland lose to Pakistan - by any margin - Pakistan and West Indies will make it through to the next stage.

I'm not so worried. I feel confident Pakistan will win against Ireland. They put up a fight which is expected but there's really no way Pakistan can lose this unless they completely lose it.

On the other hand I think Younis Khan is the only cricketer from the current team who also played in the 2007 team against Ireland. Afridi was benched I believe.

Originally posted by: BlackStar.

My mom predicts because of how much betting Pak vs. Ind matches get, they might set it up to have them play in the semi's.

We would have to beat Australia in Australia aka in their own backyard before we can even think about reaching the semis. Australia is a beast at home..they aren't no team to walk into any set up for any Pak vs India semifinal. 😆 Pakistan can only beat Australia if every single player brings on their A game. There's no way Pakistan will win based off of any setup and that too against the Aussies. If they win, they'll win because they played better on that day.

Originally posted by: Usman.

lol that will be a big thing If they defeat Aussies in their homeground. But facing India will be another big challenge in semis. They are in terrific form and Pakistanis can't handle pressure.

The Indian team is another team altogether in ICC tournaments. They weren't doing as well before this tournament. Even their bowlers have pulled up their socks and done well..and we already know their batting is too good. Pakistan has this mental block when facing the Indians in a world cup game. I was watching Indians batting against Zimbabwe last night..and the way Dhoni and Raina (despite being dropped twice or so by the Zimbabweans) finished it off brilliantly from a situation where India were down and out was commendable. Compare that to Pakistan..you'd have Misbah on with his tuk tuk, blocking every delivery ..with a 50 off of 100 balls and every other player on the other end playing horribly under pressure. So, India is just mentally stronger in crunch situations. The day Pakistan mentally stop fearing India in world cup matches we will win.

I'm sure Indians would want Pakistan to win against the Aussies if the quarter final games go as planned. Australia is perhaps the only team that could end India's winning streak.

On a different note..UAE 29/5 against WI. So, looks like Pak vs Ire will be a knockout game.