Mothers - Mohona and Vedashree

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Posted: 6 years ago
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A woman who tried to kill her own elder sister , kept her in infinite captivity , separated two infants from their mother , taking up their mother role while reminding them time and again what a big sacrifice she's made for them , again brain washing them to think she did all that to keep the children "safe" from their own mother ( blatant lie ) - Yes that's Vedashree Rathod .

Ved knew very very well Dayan mothers are not a threat for their own children , who knows better than her ?? Kha gayi kya use ?? She's a powerless one , a quib in dayan race . Did their mother killed her ?? Blatant lie to keep the children to herself, especially Ansh , since he's the powerful one and therein lies Ved's obsession with him.
Did her elder sister even after she did so much direct harm to Mo , killed her ??
She knew about the blood bond thing between Dayans.

They've shown us clearly in the show how exactly a dayan kills her feed . Mridul died slowly, they showed that clearly too , he lost his life force every day bit by bit and finally died. So Mo didn't just killed him for feeding. It's a succubus kind of thing , a man when he sleeps with a dayan , loses his vitality . She couldn't help it.
Even in some insect forms , like in bees , the male one dies as soon as it copulates with the female . Doesn't make the female of the species evil , it's just how it is.
I find absolutely nothing wrong with Mo feeding on people , it's their food . They don't just kill for fun like some psychopaths. Yes , human beings will find it wrong because they're the buffet 😆 , but they themselves have no problem killing all kinds of animals for food . And that's totally accepted 🥱 ! Becoz according to human beings , they're the most superior race on earth ( they indeed are , since dayan, mutants, DV etc. are fictional ) so they're justified in killing whatever animal and wild life for their life style and survival. Those animals are no match against humans nor they've any voice or law protecting them . ( other than some wild life species ). Great inherent hypocrisy ! 👏
Only Vegans can claim that and then again not . Even Vegans are destroying lives , lives of trees. So either say only human lives matter , other species can go to hell or say nothing !
Every animal survives by destroying some or other form of life , it's just we human beings hold ourselves to utmost importance that we consider that only us matter !

Only plants are genuinely surviving without destroying any other life form.
So, if there ever were any , hypothetically , superior creatures , like Dayans , more beautiful, ever youthful, and much more powerful , then they've every bit of right to kill and feed on humans , since for them humans are just cattle.

I do not consider MO as evil. She did nothing that a smart human being won't do , who is a ambitious strong independent woman with opinion of her own as well as a doting mother. ( She was crying when Ansh left in pain , if her tears are crocodile tears who was she shading them for , the truncated-view Rathod family , who , no matter how many times she proves she loves her children , will still consider her a monster and try to kill her again and again ?? 🤢B)
Nothing , absolutely nothing justifies Ved especially to separate the kids from their blood mother , keep her very identity hidden , and then when she comes back try to malign her in front of her kids.

Mo is doing the right thing by trying to rise the Daavansh within Ansh. Daavansh hai kya ?? Is it an alien entity like venom who latches on another host ?? NOPE ! Daavansh is Ansh only. Ved and family is trying to suppress the true form and true nature of Ansh , just the way Dudleys tried to keep Harry's wizarding nature suppressed , and always tried level best to keep him away from his true identity.
By the way,How and why Ved didn't ever try to drag MO to the side of humans ?? Did she believe Dayans can never belong to any one , it's just not in their nature ?? She said so time and again in the show. But then how come she thought it apt to keep Ansh , the eldest one of a ekayan , and therefore a sure shot powerful male dayan himself at her family , if dayans are inherently hopeless creatures ???

Hypocrisy and blatant lie once again. Ansh to Bal Gopal hai 😃 ( nehi to khud Yashoda mata kaise ban baithegi 😉) , aur uski maa Putna ! 😡 😕 W*F is this logic. 🤢

Either you believe that dayans can never love any one or isn't compatible with human beings , or you don't ! You can't switch your side according to your motive. 🥱 Ye to political leaders wala tactic hua. 😆
Who are the humans to decide that Dayans are an abomination , and must be eliminated from the face of the earth ?? If they believe every thing is created by God then even Dayans are also created by him only.
In the holy Quran , Allah our God is considered creator of humans as well as Jinahs.
Humans are not wrong in trying to get rid of dayans , every species are entitled to defend themselves. A deer has every right to run away from a tiger hot on it's pursuit . But what you've to understand that a tiger is absolutely not wrong to chase , kill and feed on the deer.

For some , in one hand MO is evil for trying to wake up Davansh inside Ansh , but the same DV is acceptable and aww-able when he chases Pia or "claims' her !! Where is the logic here ?? If DV is so good , then how come Mo is wrong in trying to bring it up ?? 😕
So, DV is good as long as he's romancing Pia ( out of no where in most cases !! But since it's DV , it's ok ! ) but not ok when he's fighting in musical synchronization alongside her mother ??? 😳 😕


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Posted: 6 years ago
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this^
if mohana is evil she is atleast not a hypocrite like vedashree where as vedashree keep talking about how she never had children for ansh n kajal. if u truely loves someone u dont keep telling your sacrifices every single damn time. i have lost the count that how many times vedashree has told how big sacrifice she has done to raise kajal n ash. just making them feel guilty n trapping them
vedashree know dayans never harm their bloodline bcoz she is daughter of dayan herself. reason mohana never killed vedu herself.
saint vedashree laid her relationship with in laws with lies dont telling she is daughter of dayan!
n whts with that drama of finding out how mridul was killed? if she cared for mridul so much, she could've shared info about mohana at the very start. when mridul was sick then y she stayed silent?
its so annoying to see vedashree getting free pass for her evil doings.
we humans kill others mercilessly. excuses given animals lives r not important as humans. who r we to decide? we can survive without meat until we have some extreme conditions to live or suffering some issues!
dayan will want her son to be like her. its in bloodline. royals wanted their kids to be royal and royals were known as mass murderers still out books r filled with their praise

n regarding pia part i m glad they keep dialogues of that actress less bcoz she cant act at all,
i read here that she is heroine of the show but 65 episodes in still i see mohana as main female lead😆
p.s. trying to like yout posts everywhere but not happening
Edited by SakthLaunda - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I can only speak for myself, and for me, DV has never been an issue. The issue would be if DV turned out exactly how Mohana is. Killing ruthlessly!! I don't have an issue with Mohana because she is a Daayan and has never been show as anything but.
DV/Ansh are the one and the same. Even, Ansh is struggling to accept this and balance is required. Maybe in the last episode, Ansh will be achieve balance, heck, who knows what the makers will show.

As for why Vedashree couldn't drag Mohana over to the human side like she did with Ansh...answer is simple enough.

Mo is 200 yrs old. Ved was born some 40 years ago. Mo embraced her powers and became a very powerful Daayan. By the time Ved was born, she was set in her ways and she obviously killed to stay looking young.

This is me making assumptions, maybe, once you kill an innocent you can't go back to being humanish!!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Namzie1226

I can only speak for myself, and for me, DV has never been an issue. The issue would be if DV turned out exactly how Mohana is. Killing ruthlessly!! I don't have an issue with Mohana because she is a Daayan and has never been show as anything but.

DV/Ansh are the one and the same. Even, Ansh is struggling to accept this and balance is required. Maybe in the last episode, Ansh will be achieve balance, heck, who knows what the makers will show.

As for why Vedashree couldn't drag Mohana over to the human side like she did with Ansh...answer is simple enough.

Mo is 200 yrs old. Ved was born some 40 years ago. Mo embraced her powers and became a very powerful Daayan. By the time Ved was born, she was set in her ways and she obviously killed to stay looking young.

This is me making assumptions, maybe, once you kill an innocent you can't go back to being humanish!!

Interesting take . I agree partially with your post , as in I agree with some of the points .
And I disagree with some.

I don't think that applies to Dayans killing human beings . What would you describe as killing ?? If a tiger hunts a deer , will you call it killing , since that's the only away for it to survive ?? When we eat cattle meat will we call ourselves killers ?? We've to eat some thing.

Lastly , the whole idea that one can not come back from the path of evil ( even if Vshree believes that her sister was already evil by the time she's born ) ,is against the idea of jail , imprisonment and reformatories . So what should be done with murderers ?? Shoot them taliban style ?? Death sentence or even life time imprisonment is rarely done , that too the case scenerio is completely different . The law and order system basically standing on the faith that criminals can be reformed.
Human beings kill fellow human beings for money , power, revenge , hatred , religion or when they just kill for kill , because they like it . Do the killers kill for survival ?? They don't.

Vshree never tried with her elder sister , but she'd try level best with Ansh , because Ansh is like her property . He worships Ved, no exaggeration here. That's why she's putting so much effort onto keeping him in human side. He's Ved's lifetime investment .

But what she's doing wrong is not understanding from Mohona's stand point , whatever Mo is doing is perfectly acceptable and natural too . Instead of always claiming Ansh as hers , she should instead talk with Mo to try to find a middle ground , bring him to balance , so that he can continue a balanced life doing justice to both his dayan and human roots and allow Mo to be his mother as well. He needs love from his own mother too. A selfless mother wouldn't clutch onto him like this. Can't she see that even after knowing her secrets Ansh is not hating on his mother ?? He could not . And he shouldn't be forced to do so as well. As much Pia needs to reunite with her parents , Ansh needs both the mother's love.
Edited by Carmilla - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: SakthLaunda

this^

if mohana is evil she is atleast not a hypocrite like vedashree where as vedashree keep talking about how she never had children for ansh n kajal. if u truely loves someone u dont keep telling your sacrifices every single damn time. i have lost the count that how many times vedashree has told how big sacrifice she has done to raise kajal n ash. just making them feel guilty n trapping them
vedashree know dayans never harm their bloodline bcoz she is daughter of dayan herself. reason mohana never killed vedu herself.
saint vedashree laid her relationship with in laws with lies dont telling she is daughter of dayan!
n whts with that drama of finding out how mridul was killed? if she cared for mridul so much, she could've shared info about mohana at the very start. when mridul was sick then y she stayed silent?
its so annoying to see vedashree getting free pass for her evil doings.
we humans kill others mercilessly. excuses given animals lives r not important as humans. who r we to decide? we can survive without meat until we have some extreme conditions to live or suffering some issues!
dayan will want her son to be like her. its in bloodline. royals wanted their kids to be royal and royals were known as mass murderers still out books r filled with their praise

n regarding pia part i m glad they keep dialogues of that actress less bcoz she cant act at all,
i read here that she is heroine of the show but 65 episodes in still i see mohana as main female lead😆
p.s. trying to like yout posts everywhere but not happening

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Good catch with Mridul . I missed this point . In the initial episodes it was shown that Mridul was very close to Ved . So when she turned up at Rathod house as Mridul's wife , did Ved try to talk with Mo or to the family members or Mridul ?? Mridul was under spell of DC , so chances are it was useless to warn him , but did she with rest of the family or MO ??

Where is Ved's father ?? Why no body asking her about her father ?? Did he die ?? Where is VedMo's mother ?? Why any one not asking any important question in this bizarre situation ?? 🥱 Are we ever going to get the entire back story ??

Needless to say , I agree about Pia and then I watch online and always FF her solo or prominent scenes 😆 and I hate doing that , so I'm kinda glad that her screen presence , importance and dialogs have reduced. Makes it easy for people like me. 😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Just to make it clear I don't consider Mo above judgement . 😆 Or all virtuous. I always stated how much I hated when she tortured Ruby , who's lesser powerful than her . In this case , since both are dayans , law is same for both and the predator-prey equation being removed , I judge her as a cruel typical saas torturing bahu cliche scene , which I deeply hate. Yes Ruby does often make stupid mistakes , but she's quite young and unexperienced at being a dayan , so instead of torturing Ruby, Mo should mentor her . Isse akhir mein uska hi bhalai hai. 😆
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Originally posted by: Carmilla

Interesting take . I agree partially with your post , as in I agree with some of the points .
And I disagree with some.

I don't think that applies to Dayans killing human beings . What would you describe as killing ?? If a tiger hunts a deer , will you call it killing , since that's the only away for it to survive ?? When we eat cattle meat will we call ourselves killers ?? We've to eat some thing.

Lastly , the whole idea that one can not come back from the path of evil ( even if Vshree believes that her sister was already evil by the time she's born ) ,is against the idea of jail , imprisonment and reformatories . So what should be done with murderers ?? Shoot them taliban style ?? Death sentence or even life time imprisonment is rarely done , that too the case scenerio is completely different . The law and order system basically standing on the faith that criminals can be reformed.
Human beings kill fellow human beings for money , power, revenge , hatred , religion or when they just kill for kill , because they like it . Do the killers kill for survival ?? They don't.

Vshree never tried with her elder sister , but she'd try level best with Ansh , because Ansh is like her property . He worships Ved, no exaggeration here. That's why she's putting so much effort onto keeping him in human side. He's Ved's lifetime investment .

But what she's doing wrong is not understanding from Mohona's stand point , whatever Mo is doing is perfectly acceptable and natural too . Instead of always claiming Ansh as hers , she should instead talk with Mo to try to find a middle ground , bring him to balance , so that he can continue a balanced life doing justice to both his dayan and human roots and allow Mo to be his mother as well. He needs love from his own mother too. A selfless mother wouldn't clutch onto him like this. Can't she see that even after knowing her secrets Ansh is not hating on his mother ?? He could not . And he shouldn't be forced to do so as well. As much Pia needs to reunite with her parents , Ansh needs both the mother's love.


Interesting!!! That's up to the maker's how they want Vedashree and Mohana's relationship to be. TBVH, the maker's have shown Mohana is the big baddie from the start and it's kinda difficult to see her in a different light.

As for us killing animals and Daayans killing humans for food, ultimately is the same thing. Only thing is that not all animals can fight back but some do!! So, in that aspect, humans are going to protect themselves.

Since, we (human) are considered cattle and it's a supernatural world, not a regular human world, I'm going to suspend my belief and be okay with whatever is required to save oneself.

Plus, I think half of Vedashree's fears of the DV stems from them not knowing what would happen as we have been told that DV's are absolutely rare and unique. Half knowledge is a dangerous thing and this seems to be proof!!


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Posted: 6 years ago
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@Camilla, I like this discussion...you are respectful in presenting your point, and I am doing just the same. It's nice to dissect the Daayan/human world. It's like a jungle with all the talks for predators and prey!!
Totally like an Urban Fantasy book!! I like it!! Amazing how we watch the same thing but have different takeaways!!
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Originally posted by: Namzie1226

@Camilla, I like this discussion...you are respectful in presenting your point, and I am doing just the same. It's nice to dissect the Daayan/human world. It's like a jungle with all the talks for predators and prey!!

Totally like an Urban Fantasy book!! I like it!! Amazing how we watch the same thing but have different takeaways!!

Thank you. Actually, I mirror the attitude a person is showing me so if I'm being cordial and respectful it's because you're being cordial respectful and proper in presenting your side of the story. So the credit kind of goes to you. 😳
I love reading different view points and also to present my own. I understand that each person will watch the same show yet will end up watching different shows , as each will gauze the material through the filter of their own personality .
Truly amazing as you said.
Yes suspension of disbelief is definitely needed. Dayans and daavansh and daivik etc are fictional creatures. They don't exist in real life plus they've been given specific attributes by the creatives. So we simply cannot judge them by our standard human parameters. You can not watch any fantasy genre stuff without suspension of disbelief and a ready acceptance of the fact that natural rules can not apply to preternatul .
Edited by Carmilla - 6 years ago
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Carmilla
You go girl

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