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Posted: 8 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: DiyaS


Not answering the rest of your post since that's your opinion ... I saw enough dance ... more than I've seen in other emotional acts, more than i saw in the other emotional act this week even ... but that's your opinion. For me both emotional acts, Sanaya-Mohit's and Bharati's, had enough dance ... but more than that, they connected because i was personally invested in both ...

I had close relatives holed up in a room in one of the hotels under attack for four days ... by the last day, they had one apple left to eat, and no idea how many days that one apple had to last them before ...if ever ... they were rescued. Sanaya and Mohit's act brought back the terror of those days ... and how helpless and anguished the rest of the family felt that we were unable to do a thing to help them. The way they hid in the cupboard? My relatives actually did that when they heard voices in the corridor outside. They had children waiting for them too ... fortunately they made it out back to them.

I don't think it was milking the event ... I think we need to remind ourselves periodically about those days, and how lucky we are to be safe where we are. I know my relatives never forgot how lucky they were to be rescued when so many others lost their lives during those 4-5 terrible days.

But regarding what you term 'post performance rona dhona' ... I guess you missed Sanaya's words after the act ... she was at the spot where the attacks happened ...one of the encounters took place under her balcony at her building ... she saw the firing herself. Their balcony was open ... for all they knew, any one of the terrorists could have entered any of the buildings around. Some did ... not theirs, but another one close by. Those buildings are old, have huge open balconies, and have no security whatsoever. Sanaya and her family were under threat, in real danger, so were all the people in those buildings around.

I don't think ANYONE can ever completely forget something like that. To term it post performance rona dhona is, I feel, being not only unkind but very unfeeling. I am appalled that an Indian ... as I presume you are ... can even think this way.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Beyhad



Appalled as an Indian because I said they milked a national tragedy which they pretty much did?I'm sorry but what?Did that even make sense? I am sorry I disagree with you on many things.Firstly why would anyone USE such a tragic incident that they themselves were part of on a reality show for some scores and votes. .Cashing in on a tragic incident so close to you just to impress 3 mundane judges on a glossy reality show platform for some scores is not my idea of a tribute most definitely and I have expressed it.I see no point in debating about the same if you people are refusing to acknowledge some obvious facts for whatever reasons .If you are paying a tribute to the victims of such a horrific incident either don't take money in return for the tribute keeping in mind the sufferings or share one part of it with the victims whose tragedy you used in the show .If you do neither I'm afraid milking is what it will be called. Feel free to ignore if you don't agree because I don't want to keep going in circles about the same thing


But I thought you wrote in your post that you saw a Husain Tina act on Hindu Muslim riots which you felt was wonderful? So that wasn't milking a national tragedy? Or did they use the money from the act to help some of the victims? Sorry ... I'm confused as to what you really mean now ... since you seem to be contradicting yourself.

Anyway, I posted here because this was personal for me ... I found it very offensive for someone's own experience to be labelled rona dhona. I won't be posting here again either so feel free to ignore.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: DiyaS


Not answering the rest of your post since that's your opinion ... I saw enough dance ... more than I've seen in other emotional acts, more than i saw in the other emotional act this week even ... but that's your opinion. For me both emotional acts, Sanaya-Mohit's and Bharati's, had enough dance ... but more than that, they connected because i was personally invested in both ...

I had close relatives holed up in a room in one of the hotels under attack for four days ... by the last day, they had one apple left to eat, and no idea how many days that one apple had to last them before ...if ever ... they were rescued. Sanaya and Mohit's act brought back the terror of those days ... and how helpless and anguished the rest of the family felt that we were unable to do a thing to help them. The way they hid in the cupboard? My relatives actually did that when they heard voices in the corridor outside. They had children waiting for them too ... fortunately they made it out back to them.

I don't think it was milking the event ... I think we need to remind ourselves periodically about those days, and how lucky we are to be safe where we are. I know my relatives never forgot how lucky they were to be rescued when so many others lost their lives during those 4-5 terrible days.

But regarding what you term 'post performance rona dhona' ... I guess you missed Sanaya's words after the act ... she was at the spot where the attacks happened ...one of the encounters took place under her balcony at her building ... she saw the firing herself. Their balcony was open ... for all they knew, any one of the terrorists could have entered any of the buildings around. Some did ... not theirs, but another one close by. Those buildings are old, have huge open balconies, and have no security whatsoever. Sanaya and her family were under threat, in real danger, so were all the people in those buildings around.

I don't think ANYONE can ever completely forget something like that. To term it post performance rona dhona is, I feel, being not only unkind but very unfeeling. I am appalled that an Indian ... as I presume you are ... can even think this way.

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Posted: 8 years ago
#45
Monaya are finally giving the judges what they love most...lots of lots of emotional melodrama 😆 Smart move, why should they lag behind after all?
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Posted: 8 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Beyhad


The connect-
I remember many years ago watching Hussain-Tina a couple on this same show perform a contemporary emotional act on the Hindu-Muslim riots . It was a heart wrenching one and I could feel a lump in my throat at the end of it ,the images remained in my head for a long time much after the act was over ,such was the impact and connect .


Originally posted by: Beyhad

.Cashing in on a tragic incident so close to you just to impress 3 mundane judges on a glossy reality show platform for some scores is not my idea of a tribute most definitely and I have expressed it.I see no point in debating about the same if you people are refusing to acknowledge some obvious facts for whatever reasons .If you are paying a tribute to the victims of such a horrific incident either don't take money in return for the tribute keeping in mind the sufferings or share one part of it with the victims whose tragedy you used in the show .If you do neither I'm afraid milking is what it will be called. Feel free to ignore if you don't agree because I don't want to keep going in circles about the same thing


Are you contradicting yourself? So you are saying that it is ok for Hussain-Tina to milk the Hindu-Muslim riots, while it is insensitive for Monaya to do the same with the Taj shootings?

The first one touched you and brought a lump in your throat and yet you didn't mind that they were milking a national tragedy on a reality show?

But when Monaya do the same you say they shouldn't milk it and if they do they should do it for free or pay money to the victims.

It is ok for you to say you didn't connect to the act or that they were over scored, but saying that they are milking a national tragedy is rather hypocritical, when you seemed to have deeply impacted by another similar act.


Edited by Anisha. - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: DiyaS



But I thought you wrote in your post that you saw a Husain Tina act on Hindu Muslim riots which you felt was wonderful? So that wasn't milking a national tragedy? Or did they use the money from the act to help some of the victims? Sorry ... I'm confused as to what you really mean now ... since you seem to be contradicting yourself.

Anyway, I posted here because this was personal for me ... I found it very offensive for someone's own experience to be labelled rona dhona. I won't be posting here again either so feel free to ignore.



Nowhere did I write Hussain Tina did the act for free or for charity and neither did I say their act was a noble "tribute" to the victims .They milked the act just as much as Monaya did. Infact I mentioned them here because they performed on a similar themed act and yet there was some actual dancing and an impact. What differed in both couples is the level of choreography, execution and the portrayal by both baliyes.Tina Hussain's left an impact after the dance whilst Monaya left no such impact through their dancing. That was a purely dance based comparison 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Anisha.



Are you contradicting yourself? So you are saying that it is ok for Hussain-Tina to milk the Hindu-Muslim riots, while it is insensitive for Monaya to do the same with the Taj shootings?

The first one touched you and brought a lump in your throat and yet you didn't mind that they were milking a national tragedy on a reality show?

But when Monaya do the same you say they shouldn't milk it and if they do they should do it for free or pay money to the victims.

It is ok for you to say you didn't connect to the act or that they were over scored, but saying that they are milking a national tragedy is rather hypocritical, when you seemed to have deeply impacted by another similar act.



Read both posts carefully again. Nowhere have I said it's "insensitive" of either to do so .All I said is I can't call that a "tribute" or "homage" for reasons I have stated in the same post. Hussain Tina milked a tragedy too but from a dance point of view left an impact which Monaya IMHO did not..I compared them in terms of connect and impact purely from a dancing point of view .😃 Infact this is the very reason I mentioned Hussain-Tina,because they too performed on a similar theme but dancing wise were much superior
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Posted: 8 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: Beyhad

Oh forgive me but I didn't know what else to term a couple that is unabashedly milking a national tragedy for some votes and scores on a commercial, frivolous dance reality show on our TV screens.There is a difference between being genuinely upset about something and milking that incident for scores and votes on a dance reality show for your own benefits. Every week they perform/ survive adds more money to their own pockets and not to the survivors of the heinous and unfortunate incident .So please save your baseless preaching for some other time.

Originally posted by: Beyhad

Read both posts carefully again. Nowhere have I said it's insensitive of either to do so .All I said is I can't call that a "tribute" or "homage" for reasons I have stated in the same post. Hussain Tina milked a tragedy too but from a dance point of view left an impact which Monaya IMHO did not..I compared them in terms of connect and impact purely from a dancing point of view .Big smile

@red --- Please do not refer to your opinions as facts and which people are you addressing? 😕😆
What a turn around. If you are only comparing the two acts on basis of dance and the other one impressed you purely on basis on dance and connect then you should say so without resorting to making statements regarding milking a national tragedy on TV.
Edited by Anisha. - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Beyhad



Oh forgive me but I didn't know what else to term a couple that is unabashedly milking a national tragedy for some votes and scores on a commercial, frivolous dance reality show on our TV screens.There is a difference between being genuinely upset about something and milking that incident for scores and votes on a dance reality show for your own benefits. Every week they perform/ survive adds more money to their own pockets and not to the survivors of the heinous and unfortunate incident .So please save your baseless preaching for some other time.

About Sanaya,I beg to differ as she is infact one of the least graceful dancers in this season along with Divyanka. Her transitions from one step to another are extremely shoddy and incomplete. And offcourse anyone who doesn't agree with Sanaya being the best dancer the world ever saw isn't watching the same show as you isn't it? Maybe we aren't and that's why you see her grace while most others here don't 😃

If that is a fact? 😕 Then what is an opinion?

Originally posted by: Beyhad


Where's the "Nach
" - Isn't this supposed to be "Nach" Baliye? So I want to know where in the world was the "Nach"..where was the dancing? All I saw was lifts and running around with bizarre expressions .Is that what you call "Nach"? Is contemporary all about lifts? I'm afraid not .Even their transition from one step to another was very shoddy and lacked grace. And in some places they went to the next step without even completing the first.What they did yesterday was just an unpardonable slaughter of the contemporary dance form rather 🥱

This is your opinion and not a fact right?
But looks like Terrence who is a trained dancer didn't find it to be an unpardonable slaughter after all! And it is a fact that he gave a 9, over scored in your opinion, not in mine.

PS ... I would not like to second guess a choreographer and professional dancer on what comprises contemporary dance, as this is not my area of expertise



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