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Posted: 8 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: princessunara

@Jaya di - lol I haven't even watched Talwar.. But I watched Neerja which incidentally was my fav movie from last year and tt was so beautifully made and such a lovely tribute to that amazing young soul who was just 22.. Anyway considering it won a national award mention I guess milking wasn't the term the respected jury used!! 😆

That was a beautiful and heartbreaking movie. I didn't know the story and it was a privilege to see it being enacted. The thing is these works of art or entertainment make those of us who are receptive to them appreciate them and try to learn something from them. Sanaya and Mohit's act reminded us to appreciate every moment we are lucky to have.
Remember how after Sanaya danced with those schoolgirls from the charity school on the Amitabh Bachachan show it motivated us to get together and sponsor a child. Perhaps someone will be motivated by this performance too to contribute towards a charity for 26/11 survivors. We also found out that Sanaya not only danced with the girls but is also actively involved with that charity. For all we know she may well be involved with something similar for the victims of these terror acts...now wouldn't that put a spanner in the 'milking a tragedy' works.
Anyway I'm so proud of the whole team for this exceptionally beautiful and dance filled performance. Having said that I'm now officially done with this thread.😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: jaya100

The remark about credibility was made on your 'zero dance' comment. Please look at your own posts before having the audacity to speak about people being 'clouded by bias. Bias is not the sole property of fans, haters/bashers have just as much if not more ownership over that little gem.

Out of your list I did watch Talwar and followed some of the discussions surrounding it and those had more to do with the perspective shown in the film and if justice had actually been served. I guess I missed or ignored the ones that discussed the film maker, actors and anyone else involved as milking the tragedy.
I don't watch too many Hollywood films and the news sources I choose to peruse to get my news don't really discuss too many of them or the controversies surrounding them. So if that's your basis for judging my credibility then I'm guilty as charged and more than ok with it.😆
So I guess you haven't watched any of the movies you mentioned because that would mean supporting the milking of tragedies and you prefer to read about how awful these artists are.Were do you draw the line? Are you also against documentaries of tragedies? After all they too make money for someone. Come to think of it all those news channels and newspapers that according to you I should be watching/reading are also in the business of making money so they too must be milking tragedies. Guess that kinda leaves us with soaps and music...but, oh wait even they touch on realities of life and use real life situations, including tragedies, for their inspiration.
I can't help it if you find that my points 'make little or no sense, perhaps if you tried to brush away that cloud of bias floating about in your head you may get a better understanding 😛.

You have an issue with me saying you are biased but on the other hand don't think twice before labelling me a "hater" for having a different opinion from yours.Funny isn't it? 😛

About Talwar, I thought as a credible person you might have been aware of the debate on sensationalising Arushi's tragedy and being insensitive to the girl by making this film to which Vishal Bharadwaj the writer responded

"The intention of the people behind this was not to sensationalise it but to humanise the story because it is a human tragedy." You can google this to read for yourself 😃

One doesn't really have to sit and watch every movie that makes headlines on your TV screens and news journals 😳 I happen to read a lot of blogs and books based on evolution of cinema which happened to mention some of these films and their controversies. All I did was reproduce those movies to you. Also makers of movies and soaps based on a personal tragedy share an amount of their profits with the victims families so again it depends on the context and I wouldn't compare them with Monaya''s stint on a reality show sorry 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: Beyhad


Yes because when movies like Neerja on someone's life tragedy is usually made you either pay their family before making the movie for the rights of the story or you share a part of the films box office collection with the family as part of using their story. Whether to accept the money or not is then upto the victim's family.So I don't really see the comparison of Monaya's tribute (which in no way monetarily benefits the victims rather just adds income to their own pockets ) with Neerja the movie



They didn't pay. I followed that movie carefully from inception as Neerja was someone I respected given my own interest in flying.
And Bharati who again i connected in her act and rated as such was doing an emotion too. So did DT in sadma. I didn't see u making the oats asking her to give a portion of her fee to the director/producer/actors of that movie now did I? And specially as she didn't have any stake in the original at all against a Sanaya who was living through that horror and like Bharati she too shared a personal experience/emotion and had an act on it. For which neither of them have to pay anyone for..

And did Hussain-Tina pay for the victims of Hindu Muslim riots from the NB winnings? lol I like Tina di a lot she is a sweetheart as I know her from FB for the past 10 or so years so I don't think any of the actors need to pay for using one's own personal experiences and creating acts around them.

Why the bias tell when u didn't have an issue of Pritam Aman using Kaabil, Sanam-Abhi ADHM, Mona-Vikrant a loss of a child or Sid-Trupti the loss of a spouse or even Deepika-Shoeb her dad being one of the guardians of the country not one time u came around talking about 'milking' so why now?

I have no issues if u think there wasn't enough contemporary dancing (which is ur opinion and certainly not a fact. I have a decent enough knowledge on contemporary acts and for me there was enough as contemporary dance is representing an emotion) but making cheap that horror she lived through; now that I have an issue with! If u or a loved one ever have come close to being a victim of terror attack u will never use that belittling word on something so serious to the person who has been through that.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: Anisha.

Looks like you want me to move on because you have nothing to say about your self proclaimed facts ? You are so right not everyone who replies to your "factual" posts will agree with you and will have their own opinions.

Or maybe it is the other way round and you cannot digest those very facts and are still whining about it on my post with comments that have no head or tail 😉
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: jaya100

That was a beautiful and heartbreaking movie. I didn't know the story and it was a privilege to see it being enacted. The thing is these works of art or entertainment make those of us who are receptive to them appreciate them and try to learn something from them. Sanaya and Mohit's act reminded us to appreciate every moment we are lucky to have.

Remember how after Sanaya danced with those schoolgirls from the charity school on the Amitabh Bachachan show it motivated us to get together and sponsor a child. Perhaps someone will be motivated by this performance too to contribute towards a charity for 26/11 survivors. We also found out that Sanaya not only danced with the girls but is also actively involved with that charity. For all we know she may well be involved with something similar for the victims of these terror acts...now wouldn't that put a spanner in the 'milking a tragedy' works.
Anyway I'm so proud of the whole team for this exceptionally beautiful and dance filled performance. Having said that I'm now officially done with this thread.😆



Definitely we were inspired to help the girl children's education through that very foundation on her evey birthday due to this only! If supposed milking of good deeds/deep felt emotions result in things like that I say bring it on! At least will teach us to value and support good instead of taking a negative off everything

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Posted: 8 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: princessunara



They didn't pay. I followed that movie carefully from inception as Neerja was someone I respected given my own interest in flying.
And Bharati who again i connected in her act and rated as such was doing an emotion too. So did DT in sadma. I didn't see u making the oats asking her to give a portion of her fee to the director/producer/actors of that movie now did I? And specially as she didn't have any stake in the original at all against a Sanaya who was living through that horror and like Bharati she too shared a personal experience/emotion and had an act on it. For which neither of them have to pay anyone for..

And did Hussain-Tina pay for the victims of Hindu Muslim riots from the NB winnings? lol I like Tina di a lot she is a sweetheart as I know her from FB for the past 10 or so years so I don't think any of the actors need to pay for using one's own personal experiences and creating acts around them.

Why the bias tell when u didn't have an issue of Pritam Aman using Kaabil, Sanam-Abhi ADHM, Mona-Vikrant a loss of a child or Sid-Trupti the loss of a spouse or even Deepika-Shoeb her dad being one of the guardians of the country not one time u came around talking about 'milking' so why now?

I have no issues if u think there wasn't enough contemporary dancing (which is ur opinion and certainly not a fact. I have a decent enough knowledge on contemporary acts and for me there was enough as contemporary dance is representing an emotion) but making cheap that horror she lived through; now that I have an issue with! If u or a loved one ever have come close to being a victim of terror attack u will never use that belittling word on something so serious to the person who has been through that.



Copy pasting my words from my own post which you seem to have missed

"usually made you either pay their family before making the movie for the rights of the story or you share a part of the films box office collection with the family as part of using their story. Whether to accept the money or not is then upto the victim's family"

There I said it! Every film maker offers an amount for the rights to the story but whether to take it or not is upto the family in question. Neerja's family were offered money for the rights to the story BUT they CHOSE to decline the offer not that they were never offered any amount.

And where do Hussain and Tina feauture in every argument when I CLEARLY NEVER said they paid an honorable "tribute" or homage to hindu muslim riots and that they cannot be criticised for any of the milking .It was SI fans that jumped and said how can you say so,how dare you say so,they were so noble and paying a homage and you have no rights to question their cashing in on it because you are insulting the victims by doing so 🤪

About the other couples, sorry haven't watched their performance so cannot comment on something I hae no knowledge of

And my reply to your post below -

You need to read up too honey ,page 2 second comment ,it was one of your buddies that first questioned how I could criticise them for post performance gimmicks because they were paying noble tributes to the tragedy . I was only replying to her point on page 4 honey 😉 And again its funny how you label anyone with a different opinion as a 'hater' but what better can I expect from you guys anyway 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#97
^^^ read up honey on page 4 u r the one who brought up 'milking' part we reacted to ur belittling

And as Sanaya was part of that moment it's her own to share no one has copyrights over it just like Bharati's loss is her own so ur offering money part doesn't even come up as it's not the same thing

And lol how amazing of u to watch the acts of the one couple u hate instead of any of the ones u like (now self admittedly) 😆

anwyay good night am going. Need to sleep I'll see what u have managed next tomorrow!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: Beyhad

Or maybe it is the other way round and you cannot digest those very facts and are still whining about it on my post with comments that have no head or tail 😉


Again self proclaimed facts? 😆 Never mind!

Don't bother about getting the head and tail, just understand the body of my comments that you lose credibility when you make facts out of your opinions.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: Anisha.




You dont have to sing bhajans to sound credible. All you have to do is check your posts before making them, and make sure you don't pass off your opinions as facts. Sanaya being the least graceful and their act having zero dance are YOUR opinions, not facts.
Take care of that and you will get your credibility back.






Well said! She doesn't seem to get it that there is a difference between fact and opinion. She also doesn't get that even fans can express different opinions. 🥱
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: SI-rocks


Well said! She doesn't seem to get it that there is a difference between fact and opinion. She also doesn't get that even fans can express different opinions. 🥱


That's why she seems to be in a hurry to have us move out of this thread and find "Credible" posts elsewhere! 😆

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