Neil's 6 months vs Avni's 10 years

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I don't even care about the duration of the leap anymore
I am just shocked by the comparison of Avni's 6 months in Jail vs 10 years of Neil being alone remembering his so called dead wife.

Normal people would have moved on but her plan has left him broken and unable to move on.

1) When Neil put Avni in jail everyone bashed him right and left and now all of Avni's actions are being justified.
Neil at least told everything to Neela ma and took her advice. Avni involved no one and took the advice of immature choti Avni. She did not even once recall that Neela ma had told her never to leave Neil's side.
But at this point of time choti avni's opinion is far more than her Neela Ma.
She did have the option of talking to neil or hell even Shweta would have given her better advice than choti Avni
At least Neil took Neela's consent and advice and did not listen just to his antaratma

2) Neil's goal was always to get avni back in his life as soon as possible whereas Avni went with never to look back at Neil. He eventually did get her back in his life in 6 months whereas She left him to rot for 10 whole years.
What did she think that just like he moved on with her after Juhi, he will do so with someone else after her.

3) Mishti is so important to her that she took her but left Neil behind.
If she loved Mishti was she not worried about her bad omen affecting her. Ideally i would have accepted that as a reason as long as she had left Mishti with Neil.

4) Neil always stayed infront of her eyes in the jail, watched over her, took her anger and hatred.
He took her anger because he felt really guilty about his actions
Neil does not even have the satisfaction to do that. She left him in guilt again for not being able to save her

I am sorry but i cannot justify Avni's actions at all. Everyone knew that Vidyut was really dying.Today they showed that Ragini Pandit was hanged.
So Vidyut was already weakened with all the attacks on his business by Neo and eventually by the fire in his house and he was also close to dying.
So she served no purpose in pushing Neil to 10 years of guilt ridden torture.
Pandits were already on the verge of destruction on their own.
Neil had ensured that RP was going to be hanged. and VR business was affected.

If she had just shared the Prakash issue with Neil, he may have had other solution to this.
A little patience would have solved the matter for them.
But no she is the sole decision maker in this.

Personally i don't think that Neil is under any obligation to run after her to bring her back in his life.
Avni should see what life Neil is living. Freaking he left his police job which was his pride. He is of no use to his family since he is not even helping his aged father in his business anymore.

At this time it is Avni's responsibility to heal him just like he did during the jail time. He constantly was with her.
She needs to take the responsibility of healing him for sure and not the other way around.

10 years later I do not think there is anything to connect them unless they have a child together.
So for me the only thing that can connect them is a child of theirs which could heal Neil and give him a reason to forgive and forget everything

And i never wanted a child like this for Avneil or the 10 year leap.
But it is here and Avni has to fix it between them

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Very well put.
I agree on evry point you hv made ( except the last child part but dts just my pov)
Avni's actions cannot be justified.
Yes she has been through a lot but reverting back to her childhood form for help is beyond my understanding.Instead she should hv turned to an imaginary Neela Ma for help.All these years and she hasnt grown up!!!!!


First she goes against Neil's principles and does this and then she says she will live a life like Neil taught her ???!!!!Contradicting herself

When Neil sent her to jail, Avni atleast knew Neil was alive.Whn Neil almost died she had herself told that keeping aside evrythng, she wanted Neil alive.Dt pain she felt...nwshe is making Neil go through it evry second for the rest of his life.

Yes she told Neil to smile remembering her.Easier said dan done when you are guilt ridden dt u couldn't save the love of ur life
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: drbeth

Very well put.

I agree on evry point you hv made ( except the last child part but dts just my pov)
Avni's actions cannot be justified.
Yes she has been through a lot but reverting back to her childhood form for help is beyond my understanding.Instead she should hv turned to an imaginary Neela Ma for help.All these years and she hasnt grown up!!!!!


First she goes against Neil's principles and does this and then she says she will live a life like Neil taught her ???!!!!Contradicting herself

When Neil sent her to jail, Avni atleast knew Neil was alive.Whn Neil almost died she had herself told that keeping aside evrythng, she wanted Neil alive.Dt pain she felt...nwshe is making Neil go through it evry second for the rest of his life.

Yes she told Neil to smile remembering her.Easier said dan done when you are guilt ridden dt u couldn't save the love of ur life


Believe me i did not want a child either but what is the connection after 10 years.
!0 years is a freaking very long time.
Once Neil knows what Avni did 10 years ago and he lived like that for 10 years, what is there for him to feel that connection with her?

Neil was guilt ridden throughout the Jail time and now guilt ridden for 10 long years.
Everything she did with VR was completely not what Neil would have wanted her to do but she did.
And now she wants to do everything by the book.

And the biggest thing is thats he did not even once think that slowly but steadily the Pandits were breaking down.
and it was shown in today's episode.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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What these ten years show is the impact a person leaves behind long after they are gone. Think about it when Juhi died, it took Neil five years before he could gather to courage to say okay I will try to move on for the sake of others he was not looking to fall in love again but then he met Avni. Avni completely changed his life, just like he changed hers. Avni became his everything, why is it hard to believe that no other girl could impact his life the way Avni has? That he cannot have those feelings for anyone else? For his family to respect his wishes and not push for him to move on with someone else would be respectable considering everything he has been through.

Why does there need to be a child to connect two people who love each other? Why should that be the reason they get back together? To me that is a forced way to reunite two people not to mention cliched. I would rather see Neil and Avni rekindling those feelings that never died, to yearn for each other and want those moments they were robbed of because villains tried so much to snatch their happiness away. What CVs are showing here is an eternal love story between Avni and Neil, one I would rather watch over the route other shows go where they have characters move on and make a mess of who their leads are. I respect the CVs for keeping Neil and Avni's characters intact.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I understand what you are saying.I don't feel connected to the characters when I imagine a 10 yr gap.Den how can an actual person like Neil feel connected after 10 yrs.But according to the precap he hasn't moved on.She was the love of his life.Sometimes its just enough for a lifetym...I knw sounds bookish and unealistic.
I guess u r ryt that a child will help in keeping the bond alive.Just dt it is unfair to both the father nd the child.
Dnt knw if u hv watched a show called ''kuch rang pyaar ke aise bhi''.Something similar happened there. Though there the hero knew his lady love was alive nd he ws at fault for the separation.Stil he ws extremely upset that he missed out on their first pregnancy.
Imagine how painful it would be for Neil.



As for Neil, I really feel heartbroken to see him leave the job he was so proud of because he feels he failed.All his attempts to save Avni went in vain.

Dnt knw y the Pandit family is being shown invincible.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Agree with you except the child part because if Avneil do have a child, Avni's actions are even more cruel for keeping a father away from his child all these years. She deserves no pardon or sympathy then.

I just cannot put my head around the 10 years leap. We can try to convince ourselves, justify the CVs thought process but there is no comparison between 6 months and 10 years. Neil knew Avni is alive in those 6 months, kept tabs on her and was working to set her free. Avni just decides to leave Neil because her dead grandmother calls her a bad omen?? How stupid is that! She forgot Neela's teachings and listened to her altar ego!!! I guess that's why Neela was killed coz she would have never let Avni do something like this!

Neil lived in the guilt of not being able to save Juhi and he is living in the same guilt once again! It's totally unjustifiable. Avni has suffered too in these 10 years but nothing compared to what Neil is going through!

I do not know what CVs were thinking when they came up with 10 years leaps and I know the opinion is divided on this. CVs could have come up with a better way to show the leap but no they had to go this way totaling messing up things again. To me, it seems like Mishti is more important to Avni than Neil.

But for the sake of AdiZa, i hope this leap works for the show and TRPS increase. For me it is wait and watch. The trust I had in NK CVs until now despite what we have seen in the last 3 months is at its lowest at this time and I do not know what vision they have. I also want to understand why is it so important to separate the leads at the drop of a hat! Is it not possible to show drama without separating the leads????


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Can't say about others but I hv alwys connected wid Avni.Every decision she took before dis...I could always reason it out.
But today I lost that.

10 years leap... Yes v can all ignore it if v watch as disconnected viewers.I watch many shows like dt...dnt care abt their plot or progress or trps or if they go off air.

If u r connected to a show...den ignoring such a big gap of tym widout any logical explanation is not at all possible.Its like a kink which will alwys be visible.

Also what is it that they achieved by a 10 yrs leap that couldn't be done by 5????
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Posted: 7 years ago
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If Avni's goal was to protect Neil from Vidyut then she should have left a letter for him and said that she is going away as she cannot see him hurt or killed because she considers herself bad luck.
Neela had taught her to hide so that no one can find her and she could have done just that.

Neil would have been upset but at least know that she is alive somewhere.

In fact he probably would have used his being an IPS officer and police resources to find her.
He would have never quit his job.

Vidyut and Ragini were already done with so it would not have mattered.
today they showed that RP was hanged and vidyut was already dying.

but to show herself burnt to death in front of Neil and then watching him fall apart from the sidelines, left me unnerved.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: drbeth

I understand what you are saying.I don't feel connected to the characters when I imagine a 10 yr gap.Den how can an actual person like Neil feel connected after 10 yrs.But according to the precap he hasn't moved on.She was the love of his life.Sometimes its just enough for a lifetym...I knw sounds bookish and unealistic.

I guess u r ryt that a child will help in keeping the bond alive.Just dt it is unfair to both the father nd the child.
Dnt knw if u hv watched a show called ''kuch rang pyaar ke aise bhi''.Something similar happened there. Though there the hero knew his lady love was alive nd he ws at fault for the separation.Stil he ws extremely upset that he missed out on their first pregnancy.
Imagine how painful it would be for Neil.



As for Neil, I really feel heartbroken to see him leave the job he was so proud of because he feels he failed.All his attempts to save Avni went in vain.

Dnt knw y the Pandit family is being shown invincible.


i have seen that serial and I used to love the 2 leads.
but if you look at it after 7 years there biggest connection was their daughter who made then forget everything

trust me that is the last thing I wanted for Avneil who have spent only 1 night of intimacy but 10 years is a long time

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Agree with everything except the fact that I don't think they need to show a child to connect them back together. They are soulmates and will find their way back to each other anyway and I'm kinda old school and romantic about the idea of soulmates but at the same time I'm practical about the timeline. Just because they are eternally bound doesn't mean ki itna lamba leap Lena chahiye...it's very off-putting information to the viewer to think that they have been apart for so long and suffering. Infact I'm even willing to overlook the fact that avni took all these life changing decisions on her own because let's just take it that circumstances were very grave. But after vidyut has been arrested what is stopping her from at least sending out a clue to her husband that she's alive and she's hiding because vidyut is alive and he could still potentially harm them all. If it's all because she thinks she's a bad omen then she should have just jumped into the funeral pyre like dvms bhoot told her to! Harsh I know, but that's just how frustrating it is. how come she doesn't
feel like she's a bad omen to mishti and the kids in the orphanage she's at now.
And I wish they had shown neelas ghost giving her advice instead of choti avni. Because neela would have told her to let go of her baggage stop thinking of herself as manhoos and remember to always keep neel in the loop and not leave him.
Why are the CVs hell hell bent on separating the leads to show that they are deeply in love. Like what is this stupid logic that if they can stay apart for long periods of time and live in pain without each other that's true love! Like really guys...grow up and learn to tell better stories. We give you credit Everytime you did good stuff but the reason this leap is being taken has to be the stupidest reason ever. Even ekta formula of memory loss is better than this...ifavni had memory loss then it would justify her being away from Neel. Knowingly torturing herself and him...that's just so irrational. They have really taken the audience for granted. v
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