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Posted: 7 years ago

I am excited about the leap.

I am hoping it will bring lot of positivity and AvNeil tashan.

I hope the CVS doesn't disappoint us like the other tracks.

I hope they give an amazing post leap look for Nilanjana. None of the bedsheet kind of dresses.

From the OLV I can see Zain is looking amazing. He is moving with the rich and famous.

I hope they give an exciting occupation for Nilanjana I hope it is not summer camp kind of job.

I hope Ali is still in the picture

I hope it is a new city

You can see my wish list is many and it can keep going. Merci on us CVS - give us what we have been asking for, for the longest time - some fun filled episodes

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Posted: 7 years ago

My take when Neil sees avni and she denies it. He will be behind avni to find d proof . Firstly the bullet mark. 😆

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Mandy

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Posted: 7 years ago

Let's hope that they really work on the story. No overload of negativity coz clearly Neela Ma death didn't bring the audience back. Drove more people away.

Let's hope they give a promo to show Avni is alive and what each is doing now, and then just concentrate on AvNeil, their meeting again, and how Neil establishes this Niranjala is Avni.

Zain looks amazing in the leather jacket as always, and the BW backdrop with this Karan guy should bring in some interesting turns and Masala to the story, which lets the face it after VR Pagalpanti, we badly need!

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TSharan

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Posted: 7 years ago

I really hope that the makers have this track planned out properly. We have had months of negativity in the show with very few family moments. Humor/comedy is totally missing. Neela ma's death didn't bring the TRPs and the show lost more viewers. Somehow I had anticipated this happening...Despite a brilliant cast, NK is not getting the desired ratings which indicates something is amiss in story and execution. We cannot blame the viewers only because the same viewers gave the show good rating earlier.

As a viewer, I watch a show for entertainment, not to get a headache and overloaded negativity. The only reason I still watch the show is due to AdiZa and the rest of the amazing cast. I actually lost interest in the show when Neela died but came back for AdiZa. But all viewers are not like us. They won't think twice before changing the channel.

What NK needs desperately now is a fine balance of drama, humor, love, angst and family time. Vidyut needs to totally disappear. Karam has done a fab job as VR but the role has lived its life. The obsessive story must end and should not be repeated.

Hoping for a good turnaround for the show. I just wish the leap starts soon enough because I do not have the heart to see the Neil I saw in today's episode.

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Mandy

@MrDarcyfan

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Posted: 7 years ago

@TSharan:

Yes, I agree. The story had drama and negative characters even after the first leap but the audience was glued and at one point I think the show even made it to Top 5. So clearly something was going right. The balance was right. There was the budding romance, the intrigue/thriller angle, the family drama, the revenge drama with the hidden identities of Avni and Neela etc. So the show had ALL the elements needed to keep the audience hooked.

Then after AvNeil marriage, they brought in Bebe and her difficult relationship with Shweta and how she challenges Avni to see if she can handle being a daughter in law. Then we had the growing closeness and understanding of AvNeil, especially when Avni finds out Neil knew who she was and still wanted to help her. She herself told him, which is what Neil wanted. ALL of that had the right flavor and balance. Even the Ali jealousy angle, his getting influenced by Sapola Gang and going down the wrong path for a short time, ALL had the right balance. The story was so entertaining and interesting.

Then came the Juhi track, RM, and that started the overdoes of Dugga Dugga negativity. Even Ragu Pandit was fine till they stretched the Juhi thing too much and when they realized they overdid it, they turned her into a selfish cliche vamp and got rid of her. That was NOT what I expected from the NK team, so I was very disappointed. That is what we usually see in Flower shows. Through each track, the only great thing that was maintained was the progression of AvNeil's relationship. But where the viewers were lost was over stretching Choohi track and Baby daddy track. That was where they went wrong, and we started to lose TRP right before the jail track started. People wanted some positivity after Juhi was taken out of the picture, but we got VR pagalpanti instead. Even at that stage, he was not crazy like this though.

Now that is all water under the bridge. But what was telling was that at the end of each track and transition to the other we always got higher numbers. But this time the end of Jail track did not increase TRP, it was consistent. Then some good moments were shown, but within 1 weeks Neela was killed, then within another week SR and then Avni gets killed. I mean WHO is going to want to watch so much tragedy? I adore ADIZA and love their performance and even the rest of the cast. That is the only reason I am still stuck to this show, or else the negativity with no real respite in the last 4 months would have driven me away and clearly it has driven a lot of TRP audience away. Can we get them back? This show was rated above YHM at one time! We were No 2 on SP and now we are 4-5. Unfortunately, ratings are driving this ship and we have to accept that if that doesn't keep adding up we are going to lose this show. I so badly don't want that to happen. I hope THIS track brings people back. Because the leads being apart is NOT good for shows in general and NK is no different.

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Shaiksafia

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan
@TSharan:

Yes, I agree. The story had drama and negative characters even after the first leap but the audience was glued and at one point I think the show even made it to Top 5. So clearly something was going right. The balance was right. There was the budding romance, the intrigue/thriller angle, the family drama, the revenge drama with the hidden identities of Avni and Neela etc. So the show had ALL the elements needed to keep the audience hooked.

Then after AvNeil marriage, they brought in Bebe and her difficult relationship with Shweta and how she challenges Avni to see if she can handle being a daughter in law. Then we had the growing closeness and understanding of AvNeil, especially when Avni finds out Neil knew who she was and still wanted to help her. She herself told him, which is what Neil wanted. ALL of that had the right flavor and balance. Even the Ali jealousy angle, his getting influenced by Sapola Gang and going down the wrong path for a short time, ALL had the right balance. The story was so entertaining and interesting.

Then came the Juhi track, RM, and that started the overdoes of Dugga Dugga negativity. Even Ragu Pandit was fine till they stretched the Juhi thing too much and when they realized they overdid it, they turned her into a selfish cliche vamp and got rid of her. That was NOT what I expected from the NK team, so I was very disappointed. That is what we usually see in Flower shows. Through each track, the only great thing that was maintained was the progression of AvNeil's relationship. But where the viewers were lost was over stretching Choohi track and Baby daddy track. That was where they went wrong, and we started to lose TRP right before the jail track started. People wanted some positivity after Juhi was taken out of the picture, but we got VR pagalpanti instead. Even at that stage, he was not crazy like this though.

Now that is all water under the bridge. But what was telling was that at the end of each track and transition to the other we always got higher numbers. But this time the end of Jail track did not increase TRP, it was consistent. Then some good moments were shown, but within 1 weeks Neela was killed, then within another week SR and then Avni gets killed. I mean WHO is going to want to watch so much tragedy? I adore ADIZA and love their performance and even the rest of the cast. That is the only reason I am still stuck to this show, or else the negativity with no real respite in the last 4 months would have driven me away and clearly it has driven a lot of TRP audience away. Can we get them back? This show was rated above YHM at one time! We were No 2 on SP and now we are 4-5. Unfortunately, ratings are driving this ship and we have to accept that if that doesn't keep adding up we are going to lose this show. I so badly don't want that to happen. I hope THIS track brings people back. Because the leads being apart is NOT good for shows in general and NK is no different.

perfect analysis mandy👏 i second everything you said but unfortunately cvs never understood this they thought one drama didn't work let plan another bigger one then the final nail down was neela maa's death people adore her they were alot of them who watched for her

like you i really want this track to work i can only hope they have learned there lessons because we said the same thing before jail track ended that we need a positive track but instead we got few positive episode which again was clouded by impending death i just hope they don't commit the same mistakes they have to show avneil meeting soon because they are the usp with so many new entries people are scared of there ss

viewers can't be blamed as they gave enough chances from 4-5 months

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Mandy

@MrDarcyfan

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Posted: 7 years ago

@Shaiksafia:

Yes, the viewers did stay tuned and it is in the past 2 months we have lost most of the viewers. I think after Juhi exit, people expected positivity, but we got high drama with arrest and jail. People still tuned in for that, we lost some viewers but it was not that bad.

Then the end of jail track people said some light moments, family drama and also maybe a re-marriage etc? Surely 2-3 weeks of that may have brought some viewers back? People love celebrations, weddings etc. Since AvNeil's first wedding was an intrigue one, the second wedding had Juhi drama, at least this wedding could have been a good eyeball catcher. Neela also wanted that, as per her wish.

But instead we get 1 week of happiness and Neela is killed. Then 1 week of drama and then AvNeil SR and then Avni's fake death and their separation. So where is the "Balance?". This is not spreading negativity. In fact, we are asking the makers to STOP the negativity at least temporarily, and for the past 4 months or so they never listened to us and we see the result in front of us.

This is why this 5-year leap and these drastic steps were needed as a last chance to bring the numbers back. Let's face it, this was not actually needed if they had kept the show going on the same balanced vein it had run for the first 6 months post leap. In fact, I hear that the reason the pre-leap story didn't work with many was the overdose of negativity and evil always winning.

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Shaiksafia

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Posted: 7 years ago

@mandy i have heard that too preleap was negative but 1st 6 months post leap had everything also well balanced the jail track was pretty bad in terms of losing the trp audience we got few avneil scenes so much emotional disconnect it was the most logical one but itv is driven by emotions and celebrations which clearly lack with this track now i want them to go little slow with avneil scenes and there emotional journey give time so audience can connect to both leads and there story they always in rush especially for avneil scenes.

I wish all the best to the team they have brilliant cast just background people need to work hard

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TSharan

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan
@Shaiksafia:
Yes, the viewers did stay tuned and it is in the past 2 months we have lost most of the viewers. I think after Juhi exit, people expected positivity, but we got high drama with arrest and jail. People still tuned in for that, we lost some viewers but it was not that bad.

Then the end of jail track people said some light moments, family drama and also maybe a re-marriage etc? Surely 2-3 weeks of that may have brought some viewers back? People love celebrations, weddings etc. Since AvNeil's first wedding was an intrigue one, the second wedding had Juhi drama, at least this wedding could have been a good eyeball catcher. Neela also wanted that, as per her wish.

But instead we get 1 week of happiness and Neela is killed. Then 1 week of drama and then AvNeil SR and then Avni's fake death and their separation. So where is the "Balance?". This is not spreading negativity. In fact, we are asking the makers to STOP the negativity at least temporarily, and for the past 4 months or so they never listened to us and we see the result in front of us.

This is why this 5-year leap and these drastic steps were needed as a last chance to bring the numbers back. Let's face it, this was not actually needed if they had kept the show going on the same balanced vein it had run for the first 6 months post leap. In fact, I hear that the reason the pre-leap story didn't work with many was the overdose of negativity and evil always winning.

@Mandy...you have done a perfect analysis about where things went wrong. As a hardcore Avneil fan, many of us have hung around the show but you are right, the show badly needs "balance", 2 leaps in less than 2 months and 2 deaths in 2 weeks! It was just too much. For once if the makers had gone the cliched way and shown Avneil remarriage and slowly build up Vidyut's angle, I am sure we could have had viewers back. I don't follow most indian shows other than NK but whenever wedding festivities happen on a show, I make it a point to watch. Because such episodes are so enjoyable. I am not talking about month long celebrations like yeh rishta ...just a few more happy episodes is all I am talking about. We just got 4 happy episodes and in the 5th one Neela was killed. How cruel is that for loyal viewers!

Yes I watched pre leap episodes and stopped watching once DVM's cruelty towards Avni went beyond my tolerance level. It was too much to take. I started watch NK again much later after Avneil got married.

If the show has to survive, CVs have to bring a balance and make Avneil meet soon enough. I cannot handle them being away for too long. They have had too many separations now. With so many new entries, lets see how that balance will come.

Yes, the new leap was not needed if only the CVs had focused a bit more on execution and slowed down the pace. They dragged Juhi track and rushed through after that. all of us want the show to have a long run and for that to happen, CVs have to bring positivity in the show. The emotional quotient is totally lacking at the moment. We never got to see how Khannas reacted to Neil putting Avni in prison. They disappeared when jail track started and returned towards the end. Every celebration in NK has a fiasco attached to it. We have never had clean pure celebrations in NK world! WHY? I want to ask the CVs.

Fan clubs can try their best...promote the show on SNS, not post reviews, pics after an episode. In the forum we can refrain from discussing the episode before air time. But unless neutral viewers are pulled back, the show cannot get the ratings back. These neutral viewers will come back only if the CVs bring the balance back!

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Mandy

@MrDarcyfan

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Posted: 7 years ago

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@Tsharan:

I was thinking it would have been so easy to show Suneheri get Bail from jail due to her helping Avni and have her become a part of the celebrations in an AvNeil wedding. Since she is a dancer we could have seen some fun moments with her and DD, even Ali maybe. That could have been a part of the Sangeet etc. The loyal fans love that stuff. In fact, Payal-Akash wedding track and Kushi-Arnav re-marriage track garnered some of the highest ratings IPK1 ever had. So what does that tell you? It had the villains trickery as well, but the main theme was positive and celebratory. So people loved it, and tuned in. THAT is what we needed. Not 4 positive episodes and then kill off Neela. I think some people didn't even watch the positive episodes coz the news of Neela death spread like wildfire and some had decided to quit the show. We cant blame those people, maybe they are not diehard AvNeil fans.

The fact remains, couple shippers cant keep a show on air. That only fetches a certain amount of numbers and a lot of us are overseas viewers watching on Hotstar and other platforms. Even some local viewers are doing the same thing.

I really hope they learned from the past 3 months of hit and misses and pander to the greater audience this time. "Pander" being the operative word. Coz even Reema Ji's death was not able to drive the fans away, and she was the pillar of the show, the main character besides Avni and before the final revenge between Daya-Avni, her death happened. I am sure the makers and everyone involved panicked thinking how will this affect the show. But thankfully people were invested enough in the intrigue of the story that they continued to watch and we never saw a reduction in ratings till later in September when Choohi drama was starting to take center stage.

Neil that had been presented as an "Ideal" man was shown to possibly be an unwed father at a collage type age and people didn't respond that well to this development. The track was not that bad, but I feel them trying to Re-hash, Neela, Ayesha Ashish and Avni was not needed, and they forgot that plot didn't have that many takers to begin with? Anyways, I HOPE so much now, they give the audience what they want, and these "kids" who are joining in droves bring some zing and freshness to the story. As long as they are contributing to the main plot, people love kids and shows with kids do well if it's done right. Example Veera which ran for more than 1+ years with the kids alone and had good ratings too, prior to leaping. They even delayed the leap because of how loved the kids were.

Bhavesh will be a great addition to NK I am sure. It will be like having Sid Nigam in a show. Anything he touches turns to gold! I didn't follow Chandra-Nandani but I watched Ashoka and I know CN was going to go off air and after Sid came on as Bidusara the show ran for at least 5 months more I think? So it can be a good move.

Edited by MrDarcyfan - 7 years ago

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