In Neil's Defense In Tonight's Episode - Page 3

Originally posted by: .IamShonali.

Thanks Mandy, you exactly know this has been my stand regarding since the beginning of this track :)

Yes, Neil is being harsh but he is doing it for Avni's own good. To protect her! If Neil softens, Avni has her ways to get the truth out of Neil's system right then and there which he cannot afford to do.

Yes Neil is taking law in his hands by taking the form of Neo. But the difference still between Neo and Ananya is that Neo takes his steps taking into consideration all the possible consequences. Ananya doesn't do that and thats why lands in bigger trouble and thats something Neil doesn't want.

We already saw how much she wanted to kill Vidyut right away, the moment she saw him in the jail. How much more clear can it get that whatever Neil is doing (definitely not fair to Avni but) is still to protect her from her own impulsiveness and Vidyut!

Thanks once again Mandy <3

We think alike, Neil knows Avni better than she knows herself he knows what her impulsive nature has gotten her into in the past. We've always seen Ali, Neela or Neil be there to be Avni's safety net what will happen if that net is gone? Neil cannot risk Avni escaping jail and committing murder, there would be no way out for her then.

Originally posted by: anjalii123

Bang on Mandy..U said it all..Yes,Neil was harsh to her today..Not that he doubted tat she was the reason for Sunehris punishment knowingly..But it was coz of her mistake tat another person is being punished..I hope he finds out soon tat Monica is into this..This guy loves her way to much to hurt her intentionally..Mandy,i saw it online,i somehow felt a lille disconnect in the scenes here in there..Dono if its jus online or on tv too..Neil does tell her rite to once think and shel get answers or somethin of that sort..Wud u mind tellin wat exactly he told her whn she questioned him why he didnt trust her etc

That is exactly what Neil told her, he said he knew she tried to escape before and now because of her attempts again it trapped Sunheri. Avni knew Neil had a point which is why she said she would try to find out what happened, Neil said he would do it proving that he knows something bigger is happening and Avni did not frame Sunheri.

Neil told her to look from within herself that she would find the answers she is looking for as to why he's been unable to get her out of jail in these six months. Neil was trying to put sense into her that by escaping jail she wouldn't be helping her cause but Avni is being stubborn, she is angry and frustrated and rightfully so but Neil was not wrong.

@Delhigirl

Well yes, if we will call a spade a spade then yes, Avni knows very well that she was the one who stole the blueprint, how it landed in Sunehri's pocket is irrelevant, normally once Sunehri was trapped and was going to pay for something she didn't, Avni being the one who really stole the blueprint, ethically should have stepped in and confessed, if she worries honestly about justice. I know she must have thought that she she should find a way to save Sunehri without jeopardizing her own plans of escape but then again what if she found no plan and Suneheri got punished, the other day as well she let the guard take the blame for something she didn't do, what if she lost her job and wasn't given another chance, I know Avni thought of making up for it to her but this happened. So as we can see no one is perfect but the annoying part is stating the past, the trauma, the issues, Avni gets a free pass from fans while others don't! And honestly in real life law won't forgive you if you breached it just because you have a past, even in the case your past might be used to reduce the punishment but it never absolves you and even in relationships, your partner can understand but only to some point, he will help you but if you are doing the same mistake all the time then I doubt they would, I'm talking about thebroken promises, which is something that didn't happen only with Neil but with Neela as well, the woman who sacrificied her entire life for Avni.

So if we can accept her mistakes then we should accept the mistakes of others as well, because as I said no one had bad intentions. If she has a point, others also have a point and she is actually in part indirectly responsible for the decisions they took, yes she should have been informed but knowing the way she reacts no one can say and no one can take risks, especially given the fact that it's her future and life at stake, while I agree she has the right to take decisions for herself, I can also understand her loved ones concern with her urge of getting into a self destructive mode whenever her past or some particular issues are triggered, we admit it or not she has the tendency to completely lose it at times.

Originally posted by: arshisfan

@Delhigirl

Well yes, if we will call a spade a spade then yes, Avni knows very well that she was the one who stole the blueprint, how it landed in Sunehri's pocket is irrelevant, normally once Sunehri was trapped and was going to pay for something she didn't, Avni being the one who really stole the blueprint, ethically should have stepped in and confessed, if she worries honestly about justice. I know she must have thought that she she should find a way to save Sunehri without jeopardizing her own plans of escape but then again what if she found no plan and Suneheri got punished, the other day as well she let the guard take the blame for something she didn't do, what if she lost her job and wasn't given another chance, I know Avni thought of making up for it to her but this happened. So as we can see no one is perfect but the annoying part is stating the past, the trauma, the issues, Avni gets a free pass from fans while others don't! And honestly in real life law won't forgive you if you breached it just because you have a past, even in the case your past might be used to reduce the punishment but it never absolves you and even in relationships, your partner can understand but only to some point, he will help you but if you are doing the same mistake all the time then I doubt they would, I'm talking about thebroken promises, which is something that didn't happen only with Neil but with Neela as well, the woman who sacrificied her entire life for Avni.

So if we can accept her mistakes then we should accept the mistakes of others as well, because as I said no one had bad intentions. If she has a point, others also have a point and she is actually in part indirectly responsible for the decisions they took, yes she should have been informed but knowing the way she reacts no one can say and no one can take risks, especially given the fact that it's her future and life at stake, while I agree she has the right to take decisions for herself, I can also understand her loved ones concern with her urge of getting into a self destructive mode whenever her past or some particular issues are triggered, we admit it or not she has the tendency to completely lose it at times.

I am loving all the feedback here and Naj you really nailed it in your posts about Avni and Neil. I feel for Avni and yes the CVs purposely wanted things to be told from Avni's POV but now we have Neil's as well. It was made clear in the previous episode that whatever Neil is doing is to protect Avni not only from Vidyut but from herself as well, Neil cannot anticipate how Avni would react upon knowing the condition that was laid out in front of him. Neil just cannot take that risk. It is easy to sympathize with Avni given her past and everything she has endured but one should not forget everything Avni has done as well, she is impulsive by nature and listens to no one when it comes to doing what she wants. I remember plenty of times where she went against the wishes of her loved ones believing she knew better and while that may have been the case it did not change the fact she put herself at risk. Avni is stubborn even today she would not listen to what Neil was trying to tell her. Avni needs to realize her actions do not only impact her but those around her as well, Sunheri got caught up in her mess and like Naj pointed out the other day Avni lied about one of the jailers to cover her own skin. The way I see it Avni could not get a more understanding husband than Neil, no one would have fought for her the way he has in these past six months. A man who was all about working within the system is now working against it just because of Avni, it is to get her justice and avenge what was done to her. Neil said it right she is his most important case and he will never abandon her. Now before this turns into another who deserves whom type debate, I will make this clear Avni and Neil both deserve the other. The same way Neil has been shown through this track standing by Avni despite her impulsive nature and desire to escape is the same way Avni was shown standing by him during the Juhi-Mishti track. Neil and Avni have always been each others strength and weakness, Avni will soon understand Neil's reasoning for keeping her behind bars, she already had her suspicion in the past few episodes and that may return after coming face to face with Vidyut. We know from the latest spoiler pictures that Avni and Neo meet and they are shooting the climax so looking forward to how all this comes together.

I absolutely agree with you Mandy. If my posts seemed a little strict towards Avni, it's just to show that we can't keep blaming Neil while he is the best husband she could have ever had, yes he had to take tough decisions that seemed harsh but all for her. She is a wonderful woman and she loves him but she is a human being and she has her issues, we sympathize with her a lot, we understand her state, we know she should overcome some issues for her own happiness and also for the people who love her, for her relationships as well, we know overcoming this is easier said than done (I never said she is in a state to introspect now, I meant for later when all this is over), believe me I fully understand the scars left by childhood, by betrayals from loved ones, by reliving the same traumatic experiences allover again, it can shake anyone, but while I see her pain I can't ignore the man who loves her and is getting out of his way for her, yes he uses his unconventional ways but only keeping in mind her good and while I can question some of his ways, I can't forget her share of mistakes as well, I may understand where she comes from but in no case this would absolve her neither in front of law nor in front of society, only Neil shows his immense understanding to her because he loves her immensely and he is a gem, but I don't know why people can't see this.

Originally posted by: arshisfan

I absolutely agree with you Mandy. If my posts seemed a little strict towards Avni, it's just to show that we can't keep blaming Neil while he is the best husband she could have ever had, yes he had to take tough decisions that seemed harsh but all for her. She is a wonderful woman and she loves him but she is a human being and she has her issues, we sympathize with her a lot, we understand her state, we know she should overcome some issues for her own happiness and also for the people who love her, for her relationships as well, we know overcoming this is easier said than done (I never said she is in a state to introspect now, I meant for later when all this is over), believe me I fully understand the scars left by childhood, by betrayals from loved ones, by reliving the same traumatic experiences allover again, it can shake anyone, but while I see her pain I can't ignore the man who loves her and is getting out of his way for her, yes he uses his unconventional ways but only keeping in mind her good and while I can question some of his ways, I can't forget her share of mistakes as well, I may understand where she comes from but in no case this would absolve her neither in front of law nor in front of society, only Neil shows his immense understanding to her because he loves her immensely and he is a gem, but I don't know why people can't see this.

You were not strict it is the truth we all sympathize with Avni and I believe that is the reason why so many feel inclined to feel for her while hating on Neil but he is not the bad guy here. Neil gets no pleasure out of hurting someone he loves so much, someone he knows has been living the life of hell for the past six months. Neil knows very well what life must have been like for her, sleeping on a cold floor and believing he let her down. I am sure her words prick him hard whenever she talks about him not understanding her pain, not believing in her innocence. We have even seen Neil come close to breaking down and telling Avni everything, this is not easy for him but he has been left with no alternative. We already knew before the leap that all the evidence pointed against Avni, we know for a fact how sharp Vidyut is in covering his tracks by now it should be clear to viewers that Neil's hands were tied. Vidyut is a character who from the moment he was introduced it was shown that he is someone who knows how to cover his tracks and leave no trails behind when it comes to his illegal activities, had it been so simple to take him down he would not have been able to outsmart AvNeil each time they made the effort to defeat him. Neil is handling things the best way he knows how, he is finding other means to bring Vidyut down while protecting Avni from herself because right now he is the only one who can do so. Avni has already been shown lying to her mother, what is to stop her from lying to Neil if he were to be honest with her? Neil can see the look Avni gets in her eyes when she transforms into Ananya, he knows when it is his Avni standing before him v/s Ananya. Neil cannot afford to take a risk that would really land Avni in trouble, he loves her too much to lose her for good. It is easy to sympathize with Avni but when you factor in everything we have seen her do in the past it becomes easier to see Neil's POV, it is just a matter of seeing the bigger picture here.

@ Mandy and Naj

That's the problem with Avni she does not think about the consequences her actions have on others or herself, she acts first then pays for it later. Avni needs to be shown growing from this track and understanding that her impulsive nature is why Neil kept the truth from her, why he went to extremes and why her mother is now risking her life to save hers. Avni needs that sounding board back in her life to let her see the error of her ways. Avni cannot always be shown doing things her way eventually she will have to think things through and know when to step back and take control of her impulsiveness.

About who vested more in this relationship I would say they are even it is just a matter of Avni being stubborn and impulsive that lands her in trouble. It is something she needs to evolve from and hopefully with this track reaching its climax she does just that. Avni learning why Neil and Neela went to such lengths has to hit her hard, it has to leave an imprint on her mind that actions have consequences. Lets see where things head!

The truth is both love each other immensely. Both have their good and their bad.

Originally posted by: SilentAvNeil

The truth is both love each other immensely. Both have their good and their bad.

Neil has been the perfect husband or the husband goal of ITV. Thus when he steps down a little from his high goal, we cannot take it. Lately due to circumstances he is having to be harsh and hide the truth and let Avni believe she is a criminal. It is a harsh punishment for any woman to be put thru. It breaks you mentally and physically.

Avni has never been the perfect Biwi. She has always had her faults. The majority of us watching this show are women and we put ourselves in Avni's place easily and thus feel more for her than Neil.

At the end who should ask for forgiveness. I think both should. Neil more so for putting Avni thru this ordeal. But Avni should also - for being impulsive and not thinking thru her actions and thus not realizing the effect it is having on others. Partially it is her impulsiveness that has brought her to her current status.

I think the CVS are going that route based on today's conversation between AvNeil. Neil told Avni to think about it. I hope Avni realizes her actions and its effect also.

If the pictures are to believed then Avni is going to regret it big time when Neil gets hurt. She will break down completely and realize her mistake just like during the bomb blast. I loved the bomb blast anguish. I am so looking forward to seeing Aditi nail another such anguish scene.