In Neil's Defense In Tonight's Episode

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Posted: 8 years ago
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So there seems to be heat on Neil for the way he handled Avni today but he was not wrong in the least. Neil has every right to be angry that Avni was trying to escape again, he knows the amount of trouble she can land herself into by talking that one wrong step and he is trying to protect her. Listen closely to Neil's dialogues tonight he never accused Avni of framing Sunheri because he knows she would never do so, what was upsetting for him was the fact Sunheri is now caught up in this mess because Avni was once again trying to escape. Neil is aware something else is going on here which is why he told Avni he would handle things, he did not want her doing her own investigation when things are already tensed.

What needs to be understood here is Neil is looking out for Avni, it was already made clear in the previous episode that he fears what Avni would do if she knew the truth. Neil knows Avni better than anyone, he knows she would not sit still if she knew about the condition Vidyut placed in front of Neil and he cannot afford to have Avni take the law into her own hands. In Avni's mind this is not about collecting evidence that would prove her innocence it is about eliminating Vidyut completely! Avni is going into that zone where she is driven by revenge, don't forget she had her moments in the past during the Daya track where she came extremely close to killing her. Also keep in mind Avni's dialogues to Vidyut the day of her arrest where she vowed to make him meet the same fate Daya met with. Neil and Neela are just trying to keep Avni from going into that zone again, this is not about punishing her but protecting her.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks for the post exactly what I wanted to say
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I understand Neil wants to protect Avni, but what I fail to understand is his harshness with her.

Don't you think he is actually pushing her to be a fugitive?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Today I can understand his plight coz whatever he was setting would have become waste if Avni escapes and starts pursuing Vidyut just to land herself in big trouble . She will be branded fugitive and what's running in Vidyut's mind is literally beyond imagination .
But why is he not able to understand he is pushing her to become fugitive. His harsh words and accusations will only add fuel to the fire . He had done the damage before 6 months and is just making it worse for both . I can't just tolerate his behavior in this matter .

And wasn't history repeating in a different manner when he pulled off MS . Didn't he dig her old wounds . At least I believe so
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fagune09

I understand Neil wants to protect Avni, but what I fail to understand is his harshness with her.

Don't you think he is actually pushing her to be a fugitive?


Avni ko pyar se v samjha k kya fayda. Wo to karegi apne man ki hi. Aaj neil usse harshly behave kr raha hai. Pr pehle to aisa nai tha. Rangmahal waale incident k time usse pyar se samjhaya divorce tk ki dhamki di pr avni nai maani.
Juhi waale time v neil se kiya hua promise tod kr mishti ko le kr bhagne waali thi wo. Juhi k samne revolver le kr khadi ho gai. Agar uss waqt avni neil ki baat maan gai hoti to shayad ye musibat aati hi nai
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Here's the thing if Neil were to tell Avni the truth it would make matters worse because like Neil always says Avni does what she wants. Avni does not think of the consequences of her actions, she acts first and then faces the consequences later. Yes Avni is being pushed further to avenge what has been done to her but in Neil's mind he is still in control by blocking her means to escape. I know it is hard to see Avni like this, I hate it too but sometimes tough love is needed when it comes to the best interests of those you love. I remember in the past when Neela used tough love with Avni it was heartbreaking to see her treat Avni that way but you knew exactly where she was coming from.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks Mandy, you exactly know this has been my stand regarding since the beginning of this track :)
Yes, Neil is being harsh but he is doing it for Avni's own good. To protect her! If Neil softens, Avni has her ways to get the truth out of Neil's system right then and there which he cannot afford to do.

Yes Neil is taking law in his hands by taking the form of Neo. But the difference still between Neo and Ananya is that Neo takes his steps taking into consideration all the possible consequences. Ananya doesn't do that and thats why lands in bigger trouble and thats something Neil doesn't want.

We already saw how much she wanted to kill Vidyut right away, the moment she saw him in the jail. How much more clear can it get that whatever Neil is doing (definitely not fair to Avni but) is still to protect her from her own impulsiveness and Vidyut!

Thanks once again Mandy <3
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Bang on Mandy..U said it all..Yes,Neil was harsh to her today..Not that he doubted tat she was the reason for Sunehris punishment knowingly..But it was coz of her mistake tat another person is being punished..I hope he finds out soon tat Monica is into this..This guy loves her way to much to hurt her intentionally..Mandy,i saw it online,i somehow felt a lille disconnect in the scenes here in there..Dono if its jus online or on tv too..Neil does tell her rite to once think and shel get answers or somethin of that sort..Wud u mind tellin wat exactly he told her whn she questioned him why he didnt trust her etc
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Mandy, I agree with u, I'm quoting my replies from another thread and I came to a conclusion, that no matter how much we try only few would be able to consider Avni and Neil equally, Avni has her Veto type of thing so no matter what Neil does, people will find it controversial if it means Avni will suffer somehow.

Originally posted by: arshisfan

I fail to understand what people want exactly! Do they want Avni to run away from jail, kill Vidyut and get back to jail to aramse this time serve sentence for a crime she did really commit!! The day she saw Vidyut talking to Monica through that secret passage, she was determined to not let him come alive out of jail! It proves she isn't after Vidyut to gather evidence for her innocence but to just take badla and kill him!! Yet still people think Neil is just being harsh for the sake of it, can't we really see things from a long run perspective?!, yes it hurts when he is harsh on her, but when u see the bigger picture and the things he is trying to protect her from, one can just admire his love and patience. What would your parents do when they see you are adamant on doing something that can destroy your life forever, will they sit idle and let you do it!! People keep complaining that Neil is letting her in jail for a crime she didn't commit while we know this is not his intention (evidence is against her anyways as per shown and he was even ready to resign from his job to not arrest her) but people are ok with her running away being fully aware about what she will do once out, they can't see her in jail but if she comes out of it and kills Vidyut, will that be any better, now at least she is innocent and her mother and husband are trying to do something for her, people can argue whether it's efficient or not but still they are trying, Avni isn't running away just for her freedom, then one can still understand, she wants to kill Vidyut, that would make her a real murderess!


Anyways people can focus on the short term and forget the long term, can look for quick results which will have serious consequences for a lifetime and ignore the serious results that might really save her life!





Originally posted by: arshisfan



I know you don't blame him 😊, I was talking in general. Anyways as u said, it's mainly Avni's story from before the first leap, so it's completely understandable that people would see things from her point of view and would feel her pain since she suffered a lot since her childhood. My point was never to demean Avni's pain and her sufferings, I totally understand it and as a woman I put myself also in her shoes, but as a story I can also see the other side and I still feel that in the focus on Avni's pain, there is a sort of unfairness to Neil, Avni would always have the sympathy card because of her past and the difficult situations she lands in, no matter what, and Neil will always be expected to do things and prove himself and his love at every drop of a hat and even if Avni does a mistake he would be expected to understand and to deal with things in a way fans didn't even think of, yet want him to come up with it! if he doesn't trust then he isn't a good lover, if Avni mistrusts she is justified as her past and the way Neil behaved made her think so, if he doesn't come up with solutions then he is naakabil, if he is lenient he is weak, if he is harsh he is berehem and so on, I understand no matter what he does he will face the heat unless he faces some big pain and then too if he doesn't help himself out of it by his own means people would say he is naakabil and he is waiting for Avni to save him, it's ok and it's fine honestly, it's totally my point of view and I know majority won't agree but it's a pattern I noticed from the different tracks, Neil should do things always if he falters then he isn't good enough, even Avni said she won't leave him during Juhi-Mishti track as he loves her selflessly, he gave her a happy family, he forgave her despite marrying him dokhe se etc so it kind of makes it all about what he does and not what he really is, one incident (I know it's a serious one and I totally understand her as breaking the relationship that way has been traumatic) but that incident and her arrest while she knows all evidence is against her and she forgot all what Neil is and was before (I know despite everything she loves him, I don't question her love and I know about her past, pain and everything she did for Neil), if same happened with Avni people would have said no this is not the Neil we know, for example if considering evidence he thought she really did kill Juhi people would have hated it! So yes I say it and I'm unapologetic about it, the sympathy card Avni has, was, is and will always be something that will never let people empathise with Neil!



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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree with you both Mandy and Naj
I have always felt that Avni also needs to reflect on her own mistakes and thought process.
Avni takes people who love her for granted.
The biggest one in this is Neela ma even before neil I will say.

Today i could not connect with her when she falsely promised Neela that she will not take a wrong step. How can she not even think once that what is behind Neela being aware of Neil having put her in jail.
Avni time and again makes definite false promises to her loved ones.

I also could not connect with her when she said to neil that he said he would listen to her always.

Listening is a two way process. For one to want their loved ones to listen to them, they need to practice doing that themselves first.
also trust is a two way process. In this neil has trusted her more than Avi has trusted him.
Neil has never once thought that she actually killed Juhi, whether he says that to her or not.

at least in Neil's defense, he holds himself responsible fr everything hat is happening to Avi.

But avni has not even been once shown to think that could she have been wrong at any time.




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