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Posted: 7 years ago

So I'm really trying not to lose patience with this track. And honestly there are small bits that work for me. I thought I'd get bugged by the school competition type stuff happening but turns out I could forgive that but today's most jarring aspect of the episode...so Neil yells at vidyut, tells him avni is his wife, gives him some Tashan dialogues about how his end is coming, is gonna put sindur on painting

So if vidyut knows that all this avni se rishta todna is drama why does svni not?! What was the reason to pull her mangalsutra off and rub her sindur to arrest her? And when the f**k will it hit Neil that just because he thinks jail is safer than vidyut he can't keep her there forever! He is really not introspecting about anything...he is seeing how shaatir she has become, vidyuts name engraved in her cell, her ability to even wound herself just to get out, and how only he has an affect on her despite all the hurt she feels. Yet he's only interested in putting up s facade, not in seeing the damage it's doing to avni. There's no use in just feeling guilty ! As much avnis impulsiveness contributed in making her appear guilty, it is only Neel who can find evidence especially since he won't let avni help ! And honestly there's no urgency vibe from Neil. He's just doing Tashan and seems to be going with the flow...avni is in JAIL not boarding school and this plot is not working well fir me. It feels like another squandered opportunity! Please CVs wake up and make Neel wake up!

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Globetrotter_me

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Posted: 7 years ago

You are pretty much correct with regards to why the whole sindoor rubbing if he had to do a khoon bhari maang today in front of vidyut. But we need to understand that two things have changed since that

1) vidyut is now vulnerable. At least financially.

2) neil has become smarter than before. He ia not just playing on his emotions and is being a little vigilant with Vidyut.

Now, there have been several discussion so as to the sindoor scene. I always felt that it was for Avni and not for Vidyut. But why? That I Dont understand (it was probably for the trp aunties and not for avni either). Because neil selecting jail life for avni is evidence enough for Vidyut that he is not going to leave her at any cost. So, the sindoor drama was definitely not for Vidyut.

I right now cannot connect with neil too. Because his back story has been kept for our imagination. Now, I am More than convinced that neil IS Feeling Guilty . BUT what is he doing to overcome this guilt ???? They Must show what Has He done in the past 6 Months in order that audiences connect with Him .

Now, neil has to, I mean HAS to be aware that his wife is actually more at problem than just trying to break out. The self harm, vidyut carved out on stone, the whole tunnel plan itself.

what I feel is that neil is just looking at the scene in front of him and is not looking at the bigger picture . or at least the cvs are not looking at the bigger picture for neil's character .

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If Neel did the whole sindur rubbing for avni , that's the worst thing ever. She understood his pressures to send her to jail but she obviously doesn't understand why he's broken their relationship! He knows how much it'll break her but he's fo ne it anyway and i dont seee how keeping her in the dark has helped ! And I don't understand the CVs logic behind it. What is the use of Neel punishing himself and avni if vidyut is still out there becoming an MLA ?! I really feel like reloooking at the day chuhi was shot, looking at the other evidence left behind, getting ballu to confess etc would have been smarter! And I really want to see if avni has actually been sentenced after the trial...what about a lawyer etc...that's an opportunity to introduce a smart cameo character who can help them and actually contribute to the story. All the new kaidi characters are not really doing much !

I can't connect with Neil and even though his backstory will help, seeing his angst, his guilt is in no way going to help the story move forward. It only makes me more frustrated that he's not accomplished much. He's our super cop, and he's really struggling! I know villain and hero should be of takkar but here villain is superior and hero is being shown as useless! o

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Globetrotter_me
You are pretty much correct with regards to why the whole sindoor rubbing if he had to do a khoon bhari maang today in front of vidyut. But we need to understand that two things have changed since that
1) vidyut is now vulnerable. At least financially.
2) neil has become smarter than before. He ia not just playing on his emotions and is being a little vigilant with Vidyut.

Now, there have been several discussion so as to the sindoor scene. I always felt that it was for Avni and not for Vidyut. But why? That I Dont understand (it was probably for the trp aunties and not for avni either). Because neil selecting jail life for avni is evidence enough for Vidyut that he is not going to leave her at any cost. So, the sindoor drama was definitely not for Vidyut.

I right now cannot connect with neil too. Because his back story has been kept for our imagination. Now, I am More than convinced that neil IS Feeling Guilty . BUT what is he doing to overcome this guilt ???? They Must show what Has He done in the past 6 Months in order that audiences connect with Him .

Now, neil has to, I mean HAS to be aware that his wife is actually more at problem than just trying to break out. The self harm, vidyut carved out on stone, the whole tunnel plan itself.

what I feel is that neil is just looking at the scene in front of him and is not looking at the bigger picture . or at least the cvs are not looking at the bigger picture for neil's character .

May be Neil will see the bigger picture through Neo when Neo meets Avni that is why cvs are not letting Neil see the bigger picture.

Sindoor and mangalsutra , these were never significant for Vidyut but has great significance associated with Avni's past. Avni never wanted them for herself because Ayesha never got them in her life. When Avni got married to Neil, Neela tried to show her the brighter side of this marriage by saying that you should be happy that you got the happiness of sindoor and mangalsutra which both of your mother's never got. After that we saw how much Avni dedicated herself to protect her sindoor and mangalsutra. But when her husband himself snatched both these valuable things from her, it had a great negative psychological impact on her. What I understood is that Neil needs to work hard to reinstall Avni's faith back on them but I am not sure if cvs have the same understanding as mine

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Posted: 7 years ago

@neerja I can understand the frustration. What we have to understand is that juhi track and especially it's end was written bad and executed worse. It has left so many pot holes that if BMC ever tried to fill them it would take light years. So, if we go on about why is neil not finding clues to juhi's murder, we have to assume that Vidyut is way to smart and has actually achieved a "perfect murder". what I have convinced myself with is pre leap and post leap are two different stories, not connected to each other. Because frankly that is the only way neil doesn't seem to be a total idiot in my eyes. And hence, the clues, mishti, extra gun, ballu, extra foot prints and the court drama and even the sindoor scene stands null and void in my eyes. Those things don't serve any purpose because they were never meant to. But that is only how I have convinced myself to move forward. Because otherwise we'll just run in circles. And if we think like that, then the need for leap itself wasn't required.

@dragon

Yes, absolutely. The drama was not for Vidyut. It was for avni.

And neil has a long long path carved out for him to make amends to avni. He has wronged her in every possible way (except for the one you always want him to have wronged her lol) and avni shouldn't be easy on him. But looking at the current scenario, I think he'll drop the l-word and she will melt into his arms. Sigh.

And coming to the bigger picture, I am holding onto the show with the only hope that sooner or later they will show the bigger picture.Whether via neil or via neo doesn't matter. But i'd rather it be sooner cause patience sometimes kills too. I just want to know neil's story. May be next week onwards, once avni comes to know about neo things will start falling into place. A girl can hope! Right?

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Globetrotter_me
@neerja I can understand the frustration. What we have to understand is that juhi track and especially it's end was written bad and executed worse. It has left so many pot holes that if BMC ever tried to fill them it would take light years. So, if we go on about why is neil not finding clues to juhi's murder, we have to assume that Vidyut is way to smart and has actually achieved a "perfect murder". what I have convinced myself with is pre leap and post leap are two different stories, not connected to each other. Because frankly that is the only way neil doesn't seem to be a total idiot in my eyes. And hence, the clues, mishti, extra gun, ballu, extra foot prints and the court drama and even the sindoor scene stands null and void in my eyes. Those things don't serve any purpose because they were never meant to. But that is only how I have convinced myself to move forward. Because otherwise we'll just run in circles. And if we think like that, then the need for leap itself wasn't required.

@dragon
Yes, absolutely. The drama was not for Vidyut. It was for avni.

And neil has a long long path carved out for him to make amends to avni. He has wronged her in every possible way (except for the one you always want him to have wronged her lol) and avni shouldn't be easy on him. But looking at the current scenario, I think he'll drop the l-word and she will melt into his arms. Sigh.

And coming to the bigger picture, I am holding onto the show with the only hope that sooner or later they will show the bigger picture.Whether via neil or via neo doesn't matter. But i'd rather it be sooner cause patience sometimes kills too. I just want to know neil's story. May be next week onwards, once avni comes to know about neo things will start falling into place. A girl can hope! Right?

Atcurrent scenario Avni will never open up in front of Neil so my only hope is once Neo and Avni start working together Avni will tell her back story to him Neo will also learn about the new skills she has learnt in all these months.u

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Posted: 7 years ago

This takes me back to your earlier post about - how low should our expectations be? is it wrong to expect some logic, some plot continuity etc from the show?

I'm getting really frustrated because neither is avni close to discovering neils side of the story, nor is she coming out of jail, nor are we getting any substantial avneil, the only avneil we are getting has poorly written dialogues like dont expect special treatment because ur my wife or i wont let you take the law in ur hands while they show neil blowing up trucks as neo ! Hes making her play some silly games and trying to make her jealous by flirting with some kaidi and keep her occupied and the Zen smart shaatir avni is falling for it. so even the only good thing about the track- the zen avni is now GONE. shes hurling paperweights even after realising that monika is provoking her!

Even the angle to expose ORS as drugs isnt happening right now

Just because vidyut is smart doesnt mean they just leave every thread hanging. This is not a battle, because vidyut has already won in my opinion! Even the financial blows that neo has supposedly inflicted they are not really showing the repercussions on vidyut. Zain said in his IV that he becomes a minister! So vidyut is accomplishing everything he wants irrespective of whatever Neo is doing!

So basically 6 mahine me neil ne kuch nahi ukhada hai! and atleast avni looked like she had a plan which she had worked on for 6 months but even that has been destroyed by neil- the "kanoon" ka rakhwala!

Why is vidyut suddenly visiting jail after 6 months now? Did he just find out which jail she was in ? I find that very hard to believe. Or did he visit her after he became MLA because that puts him in a better position to bail her out? Is he gonna make her an offer? while that seems plausible from vidyuts side, avni obviously (obvious from my side, but maybe not CVs) cannot accept any offer from Vidyut so what happens then?! Or will she be shown as stupid enough to accept help from her nemesis? I dont put it past CVs because they really do not have any brains!

They really undo any good stuff they come up with by doing something really stupid afterwards!

The story has much potential but they are not using it. I feel like slamming my head against a wall for watching this show even though its only disappointing me time and again! Its like an addiction to see Adiza as Avneil everyday and I'm in serious need of deaddiction

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Posted: 7 years ago

@neerja

I agree with every single point you have raised. They are practically ruining the supposed "potential track" and are leaving behind major pot holes. Just like in the previous ones. Now, neil had the consignment of drugs, neela ma and they discussed about it, but it's report was left to us to imagine. While neil is busy making teen tango wali race.

Avni is no more zen, as you said. That is all unwinding with appearance of neil in the jail. So all hail avni has also gone.

I had said for yesterday's episode itself that I didn't feel anything for either avni or for neil. The emotions which they are trying to potray are also bland.

Today after days and literally days I felt something for neil even though just a little bit, when he confronted Vidyut.

I think as much clarity as we have about the characters or the story or the loop holes in the story, the cvs don't. And that is down right sad. They get paid to do that job! Don't they??!

I don't know what else to say. It's like fighting a defeated battle against your self. Just like you, i am hanging on a loose thread too.

Now, someone had commented on that post that don't expect too much it is ITV. And I had very dramatically said " why? Why shouldn't we? Cvs need to up their game!"

Now as good as it sounds in theory my voice is not reaching the cvs ears and even if it is I am sure they are profoundly deaf.

So I did a little experiment today. I knew it was going to be the race and mirchi day, so I had already thought it was going to be a crappy episode. And guess what, I liked the episode. Lol! I guess low expectations works.

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Shaiksafia

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Posted: 7 years ago

I feel you girl these are my exact issue with this track I said this in few post that we need Neil's backstory to connect with him post leap but I don't see that happening tbh I feel they have left that for our imagination and except from play neo neo Neil hasn't done much and he does not have any backstory to tell,
I agree with on Neil not showing any urgency in getting avni out reasons are PH House has spent a lot on this jail setup so they will use is to the max and drag this track I don't think avni is coming out of this jail anytime soon, why is Neil not shown finding evidence instead he is interested only in failing avnis jail escape plan that is his only priority arre bhai aur kitne din rakhe ka irada hai kahin puri saza katkar toh nahi aaye gi

I am loosing patience with this track but just like you it's only AvNeil's addiction which is holding me and if you find any deaddiction please pass it on much needed

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Thats the sad bit though. Even in the other thread where simi has discussed her episode review, many comments are like " I enjoyed the episode because my expectations were low"...how terrible is that! I do understand that its ITV so it needs some suspension of belief and logic but not to the extent that even before the episode we think ki ghtaiya hoga fir bhi dekhenge and then feel like- oh not bad! not as ghatiya as i expected! If we as just audience can come up with so many ideas for how to take this track forward, surely the CVs can too! why are they hell bent on only choosing the option with most BS and least logic?! after all my cribbing also i will watch the episode tomm because i know an avneil hug and kiss scene is coming up!

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