Rant post- don't want positivity in here

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Posted: 7 years ago
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it seems like I am doing these days is ranting. But then I am one of those viewers who watch a show with passion- full focus and siddat. So when it goes downhill I would be as vocal and irritating about it. If it had my appreciation, it will surely have my bashing. So people getting offended or finding silver lining in these epis, please don't bother. I am done with the way show going right now. I don't want to see the good things cause I can't see beyond the BS tracks.




I understand writing a daily soap is difficult cause you have 5 days a week epis and a big enasamble case. Some days leads are not even in single frame and viewers gets pissed, some days vamps get too much space. You can't praise any but what matters is the big picture- the progress of characters and story overall. If the endgame is leads being happy, fans wont mind seeing them apart cause that's a story as well. I have been watching shows for years- watched some amazing shows when star one and DD era was there, watched crap K shows cause of drama and leads, watched Gul, Rashmi Sharma, psuedo intellectual Yash patnaik who's shows are hollow inside. TV is in my blood, i am an addict. And believe it or not, I also sat through that atrocious show called Udaan to test my patience. So i was shocked that Mahesh Bhatt was capable of showing this! Solely saying this about pre leap cause post leap was a torture rivalling that of Udaan. A good fair male lead who's not bad to look at? Check. A badass female lead who has brains and grey? check. An equally awesome mother? check. Lady vamp, check. of course show went on a different tangent after Reemaji's demise but I wonder if this haywire way of show won't be here if she was still in the show. I find no justification for this garbage.


The day AvNeil married , or more like Avni knew that Neil knew her truth all along and helped her Avni's character has been assasinated in such a way tha'ts unprecedented. We had a girl who went from top of world to ground level- gosh, every time she said ehsaan neil ka, xyz ke liye main kar rahi hoon, mujhe neil se door jana hoga, mujhe ye karna hoga ghar ki khushali ke liye😆😆 Was she like this all these time and I missed this or She has been SP bahufied😆 where is the girl who was ready to commit murder so that justice prevailed, revenge happened? Now we have this sacrifice ki moorat who's rare burst of courage comes only for others, and never for her own happiness/well being/love life👏



Neil- oh my god where do I even begin? He was a good guy we wanted to have in our lives, then it turned out he fathered a kid in past. You know i didnt mind the track until i saw this was all the show made us watch. Having sex pre marriage and not being careful about it is not a big deal for me, and i would have mind if they did these things-


keep juhi in a seperate house with the kid
avneil and family visiting ocasionaly to meet her or discuss the issues.
the trio co -parenting
avneil stumbing in the matter of parenting CAUSE THEY ARE KID THEMSELEVES!!



but what do i get? kid and juhi living in same house?! the amount of cringe this situation is- is there no way to show the conflict apart from having her under same roof? Juhi could not see the undeniable chemistry and feelings of avneil and feel left out if she was in a different house? the kid could not have questioned the weird situation? is the kid's avneils' or juhis? why she is so passive? if she wants to snatch neil is not the way to do it is staying close to neil? why shes is so bland and passive and doing nothing?! How come neela shweta bebe are so free with the kid that they are playing with her and so chilled? my god ladies, its a kid from past! you understand the questions society will have? the kid will have? what about avni, and juhi? can you people discuss the 'sacrifice' avni is thinking to do next? please ladies, please! contribute something to the track. I understand the show is literally based on that, but Misti is not Avni who basically had choice other than survive. those whispers will be there. How come neil, who think it's his kid is having none of those questions in his head and avni is so attached as if she is the birth mom? why they need to adopt the kid, why negate juhis' feelings who till this date didn't spend a single moment with the kid as a mother?


AvNeil are a newly wed couple who had so much shit to go through unlike other couples. They had no time to sit back and relax, like close eyes and just breathe, one after another shit started to happen. They are in love, they support each other, they are happy and wants to stay together. Why not give us scenes which are solely theirs? No. what we get- their conversation about a kid, kids mom, random xyz, neil chucking his job to play bodyguard to the duo. BTW the argument that juhi and kid is better safe here is such bs as shown last 2 epis when Vidyut came to see her right under police's nose😆 do these people have any life of their own? How about doing a damn photoshoot cause those random pics in their rooms are so 😆😆😕 such bahufied avni has become that she cares about a kid more than her saas, family for whose validation she was dying few months back. hello, do you remember your mother neela? when was the last time you talked to her? and ali, seriously he should let them figure out their mess cause it's really not worth it. she left her wedding and duo hatched a stupid plan and let everyone think she left on her own, my god does she realize how hurtful and insulting that was to all? I am shocked how this was solved in matters, bebe and shweta should have kicked them out cause it looks like they felaoed all the raita and even brought home some to show their plans for a greater goodness. they are talking to them so nicely and behaving good, tolerating juhi and the kid. How about they show who is really the elder here cause neil behaves like he is the owner of the house!




Basically, juhi and kid needs to go and i need old avneil back. Bohut ho gaya nayi soch bs.



btw a more small version of this rant



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Posted: 7 years ago
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LOL. If one analyse this track more deeply, there is so much of bullshit that is going on.
Like what is Neil exactly planning to do with Juhi and Mishti in the long-term? As you have pointed out, he definitely plans to keep them with him in the same house as Avni. Even picturing this is so nauseating. How is Avni okay with this arrangement? More imp how is Avni so casual with her husband being a father to his ex. gf's child? I see no inner conflicts. Goodness of heart doesn't freeze your humane emotions for Gods sake. Cvs need to understand this. Maybe its due to Aditi being a better actress than poonam, but watching the serial it looks like she is Mishti's mother not Juhi. I don't know abc of a child's psychology but wouldn't it help if they tell Mishti who is her mother? That child always craved for a mothers love, it would help her get close to Juhi if she knows who she is. So why they are hiding it is beyond me.

More than all this, what is bothering me the most is how is Neil not feeling guilty for having fathered a child out of wedlock and for putting Avni through this. Yes, he was not in his senses, its not his fault. But he should be shown guilty for creating this mess without meaning to. Just because Avni accepted the child, doesn't mean he should be freed of all tension. Spare a few secs and feel SORRY for her. How hard is it? Cvs handled this one with horribly.

About Avni's character, its toned down since the day she revealed her identity. She is still fearless and never shies to voice her opinion but her badass attitude is definitely gone for good.

This track was a pain from the word go. I am just ignoring everything as long as they keep meri bachi, hamari bachi away. We know its not Neil's child and that hum saath saath hain scenerio would never take place, so why boil our blood thinking hypothetically and butcher his character in the process.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: An_Introvert

LOL. If one analyse this track more deeply, there is so much of bullshit that is going on.
Like what is Neil exactly planning to do with Juhi and Mishti in the long-term? As you have pointed out, he definitely plans to keep them with him in the same house as Avni. Even picturing this is so nauseating. How is Avni okay with this arrangement? More imp how is Avni so casual with her husband being a father to his ex. gf's child? I see no inner conflicts. Goodness of heart doesn't freeze your humane emotions for Gods sake. Cvs need to understand this. Maybe its due to Aditi being a better actress than poonam, but watching the serial it looks like she is Mishti's mother not Juhi. I don't know abc of a child's psychology but wouldn't it help if they tell Mishti who is her mother? That child always craved for a mothers love, it would help her get close to Juhi if she knows who she is. So why they are hiding it is beyond me.

More than all this, what is bothering me the most is how is Neil not feeling guilty for having fathered a child out of wedlock and for putting Avni through this. Yes, he was not in his senses, its not his fault. But he should be shown guilty for creating this mess without meaning to. Just because Avni accepted the child, doesn't mean he should be freed of all tension. Spare a few secs and feel SORRY for her. How hard is it? Cvs handled this one with horribly.

About Avni's character, its toned down since the day she revealed her identity. She is still fearless and never shies to voice her opinion but her badass attitude is definitely gone for good.

This track was a pain from the word go. I am just ignoring everything as long as they keep meri bachi, hamari bachi away. We know its not Neil's child and that hum saath saath hain scenerio would never take place, so why boil our blood thinking hypothetically and butcher his character in the process.


Oh I am aware that shows are not meant to be taken seriously. I am most of time chilled out when it comes to daily soap cause too many glaring loophole, in their defense they are not writing PhD thesis to be so tightly bound😆 creative liberty and shit. That's fine with me. But there is bad writing and the there is bullshit writing, like kumkum bhagya. You don't expect anything cause it's not a story, it's bakwas. NK is another show where most of the times things make sense and that's why it leaving me baffled these days. I don't recognize this show, the spark, attraction is missing.


Probably only in this show where leads chemistry contributed to trp we have a kid right after their marriage and almost confession. I remember arshi, AsYa, rishabala, MehRya, all had sizzling chemistry and we got scenes to play that out . Here?😆🤢 these people get no time for each other bas samaj seva.

Wasn't he supposed to send them off to Canada? Since miss positive is vamp now ho gya syappa that dream is gone. I don't even mind her living in same house but come on, what right Neil had to basically thopofy his ex over his parents head and house? Why not rent another house nearby?

Don't even talk about avni, she's so white washed and angel with a Halo behind her head I am having hard time to digest this show more . I somehow get Neil, he's guilty of a broken condom and now on top of that some mafia after his wife and kid and family. But avni? In the name of supporting loving wife she's like...there? So okay? No conflict? I still can not believe she left her in laws and own wedding to play spy spy with vidyut, that's a character assassination writers should take note and avoid. In the name of drama writers have butchered them.


It's not about acting, Poonam getting gilch to do in show as they try to explore how avni is another neela and now she will sacrifice to go away from kid and Neil. Had hoti Hai yaar🥱 it's not your kid! You know what I wouldn't have even minded her seeing tryibg to be detached from the kid but secretly caring for her but this white washing is next level irritating. And now Many time this Ashish neela asha angle will play out? I swear if avni again starts "don't be Ashish Neil, stay with your kid"😡😡 and I m pretty sure this will happen. Cause that's the way show rolls. I am so pissed with avni that even now she's so driven by her past, she only sees this new kid and her future but what about her husband and his Happiness? He loves her and want to stay with her and it doesn't matter to her? W*F is going on??


AvNeil has no other top to talk about except the kid and miss positive. That's the level or nonsense in here. And before the truth come out separation #1001 will play out...can shweta please bash avni this time and actually throw her out? I am done with avni, Neil deserves someone who wants to live with him and not who runs the moment situation changes. If juhi wants to stay, let her.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Ri is on fire today...tonight for me! Jokes apart Ri I feel you girl! After a LONG time I found a show with a couple that I could actually Ship! I used to call their love story "Simply Yum!" because that is what it was. I was so in love with them. I still love them, but where are they now? THAT is my question. That Jaanlewa Neil and that Badass Avni! Avni never F**king sacrificed for anyone or anything. She was single-minded about her revenge and wanting her Brother back. If she had to kill Daya to get that she was willing to do even that. She played Rhea, and even double-crossed Neil, by sitting at the Mandap. She had no clue he knew who she was. So she did this huge Doka guys, she screwed up Neil's life good. Not coz he deserved it, but coz it was an instrument of her revenge. Neil and his family were "Collateral damage!" THAT is what Avni was like. Yeah, she felt bad about it. But it didn't stop her. She knew she was hurting Ali, but did that stop her? Again No. So where is she now?

Yes I know she has changed. Neil's influence and deep down inside her desire for a normal family. To belong to an extended family etc. But that doesn't mean that she keeps walking out on the man she loves, who loves HER like crazy just coz his so called "Kid" can have a normal life? What the F is normal anyway? Is the situation this kid is in normal? She has NO clue Juhi is her Mom, and Neil is her supposed Dad. She already has a Father Vidyut, who never showed her real affection, but seems to care for her in some twisted way. The kid does not KNOW what normal looks like. Avni is the only person she feels really connected to right now and she wants to leave so Neil can play house with his Positive Ex and a kid he didn't know existed until a few weeks ago? Yeh loag Satiya gaya hai kya? HOW does this make any sense?


I totally get your frustration. This could have been a good track actually, and some of it has been. But had they handled this more maturely and without all this BS sacrificing crap, then it would have been tolerable. Where the hell does Avni get the idea that forcing Neil to stay with Juhi and the kid is how Mishti's "Happy family" dream will be fulfilled? Jaha koi "Happy" nahi hai...waha koi "Happy family" hota hai Kya? Does Avni really think that if she divorces Neil and he marries Juhi he will stay happy in a loveless marriage to give his kid a so-called "normal" life?


So lets actually see what has happened here? Neil supposedly had a slip up 6 years ago during a night of celebration which brought forth a bigger result than anticipated. His ex then is presumed dead and he even mourns her. 6 years later he finds out she is alive and then he is told their night together resulted in a child. OK fine up to this point. I am willing to go with it. The family act blase about it. Only Shweta says that she is disappointed that her Tillu became a Father before marriage and that too when she has no idea he is listening. Why didn't anyone ask what the F was Tillu thinking getting Juhi pregnant? But that conversation nor that showdown ever happened. (Which WILL happen in any normal family, because it's a valid question. Are you cracked that at 22 you end up in this situation?). But the whole K house is Tillu ka deewana, so again I went with it.


But NOW? I mean come on...they know that Mishti and Juhi cant live with them. Neil is married. He has a wife. He cant have his ex and their presumed child living with them. They will have to live separately, the same as if Juhi and Neil were divorced. They have to treat them as a divorced couple. Because in a sense they are co-parents, but not married. Neil being married should not be an issue to this situation coz Neil thought Juhi was dead. They cant blame him for moving on and getting married. He doesn't love Juhi, nor is he interested in playing house with her. He loves his wife and wants to stay with her! So WHY can't they build the story around that? Why do they need Avni to "sacrifice?". THEN the bomb of the truth. Neil is not even the Father! Bala Tala! LOL


Who else cringes when Neil says "Meri Mishti" coz we know he's being made a Colossal fool of by Ms. Positivity! I cant see him being led down the garden path like this, it hurts! What I want is some Home Truths! Some BIG time home truths to be told! I hope Shweta does the honors. Wo Hai iss liye! No need to do Ashish, Ayesha Neela drama again, coz this aint that drama! Make Neil Ashish and this time show Ashish choose his kid! Please give us a break!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I am with you 100% Avengers. I kind of put it delicately yesterday in my request to the CVS about being tired of this track dragging and needing a break. Also not weakening the characters in the name of Juhi drama.
AvNeil don't even know whether love each other and they bring in Juhi who was supposed to be dead.
AvNeil barely married and they jumped the track to show one year anniversary.

Naamkaran celebrated Navaratri at the same time as real world
But Diwali is on Naamkaran slow mode which is one month after the real world.
The whole marraige track drama with Juhi murdering drama and the Misthi kidnapping track - which cop will kidnap a kid without doing paternity test

Neil an intelligent cop did DNA testing to figure who Avni is but he becomes dumb with his ex GF and her bachi, Even after coming home still no paternity test.
The only reason they got the blood group information is for emergency with Mishti

This Juhi/bachi track has been the longest. Now they are trying to drag with AvNi breakup.

Legally it is Ananya that is married to Neil not Avni. So the marriage is not a true marriage. So maybe it is time for Avni to walk out and for Neil to live with exGF and her bachi and end of NK.

Loved the original characters post leap Ali, DD. Now it all about Juhi/bachi/Vidyuth/Guruma. Heavy duty negativity/crying/drama for over 2 months. Naamkaran has now moved back to 15th position.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I too want to write out my frustration over the current track...but U all have done it in a better way...for me NK is the only Indian serial am following...that doesn't mean that I haven't watched other serials...when we have Friends circle with different interest once in a while we all be forced to watch other serials also ...but I should admit that I have found some of their tracks interesting also...I recently watched Ekta Kapoor leading show in zee and I truly enjoyed the nok jok between the lead pair...but I didn't get the vibes to watch it further. With NK it's different ...the moment I saw one of their episodes post leap I was addicted to it...I started managing my own time to watch the episodes..it became a part of my daily routine ...that's why I feel very frustrated when I see the plight of the show ..it's not the same show that captivated me in the first place ..


U all have written it well ..so I don't want to repeat it again to tell what went wrong...the CV haven't lost their magic ...in last few episodes they have shown that they still recreate the passion between Avni and Neil...what they lost is their logic...I agree that logic doesn't work well with Indian serials ..but that doesn't mean that they can show whatever they feel like showing without logic...I feel that no women in her full sense will go a brothel to rescue her pati's lover knowing well what else can happen to her... .If she have gone there with Neil in disguise then it's different story .. Avni's Mission to rescue Misti seems to less dangerous than her RM Mission ...then after Juhi recuse Mission we all thought we r going to have the white wedding track.and honeymoon track.. but instead we had this bachi track...now may be separation track... now we have wait and see how it moves further ..but I have feeling that Juhi is not going turn fully negative...she might have hidden the bachi's paternity becoz of her selfish reason but her partnering with VR seems to be part of the plan

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Ri is on fire today...tonight for me! Jokes apart Ri I feel you girl! After a LONG time I found a show with a couple that I could actually Ship! I used to call their love story "Simply Yum!" because that is what it was. I was so in love with them. I still love them, but where are they now? THAT is my question. That Jaanlewa Neil and that Badass Avni! Avni never F**king sacrificed for anyone or anything. She was single-minded about her revenge and wanting her Brother back. If she had to kill Daya to get that she was willing to do even that. She played Rhea, and even double-crossed Neil, by sitting at the Mandap. She had no clue he knew who she was. So she did this huge Doka guys, she screwed up Neil's life good. Not coz he deserved it, but coz it was an instrument of her revenge. Neil and his family were "Collateral damage!" THAT is what Avni was like. Yeah, she felt bad about it. But it didn't stop her. She knew she was hurting Ali, but did that stop her? Again No. So where is she now?

Yes I know she has changed. Neil's influence and deep down inside her desire for a normal family. To belong to an extended family etc. But that doesn't mean that she keeps walking out on the man she loves, who loves HER like crazy just coz his so called "Kid" can have a normal life? What the F is normal anyway? Is the situation this kid is in normal? She has NO clue Juhi is her Mom, and Neil is her supposed Dad. She already has a Father Vidyut, who never showed her real affection, but seems to care for her in some twisted way. The kid does not KNOW what normal looks like. Avni is the only person she feels really connected to right now and she wants to leave so Neil can play house with his Positive Ex and a kid he didn't know existed until a few weeks ago? Yeh loag Satiya gaya hai kya? HOW does this make any sense?


I totally get your frustration. This could have been a good track actually, and some of it has been. But had they handled this more maturely and without all this BS sacrificing crap, then it would have been tolerable. Where the hell does Avni get the idea that forcing Neil to stay with Juhi and the kid is how Mishti's "Happy family" dream will be fulfilled? Jaha koi "Happy" nahi hai...waha koi "Happy family" hota hai Kya? Does Avni really think that if she divorces Neil and he marries Juhi he will stay happy in a loveless marriage to give his kid a so-called "normal" life?


So lets actually see what has happened here? Neil supposedly had a slip up 6 years ago during a night of celebration which brought forth a bigger result than anticipated. His ex then is presumed dead and he even mourns her. 6 years later he finds out she is alive and then he is told their night together resulted in a child. OK fine up to this point. I am willing to go with it. The family act blase about it. Only Shweta says that she is disappointed that her Tillu became a Father before marriage and that too when she has no idea he is listening. Why didn't anyone ask what the F was Tillu thinking getting Juhi pregnant? But that conversation nor that showdown ever happened. (Which WILL happen in any normal family, because it's a valid question. Are you cracked that at 22 you end up in this situation?). But the whole K house is Tillu ka deewana, so again I went with it.


But NOW? I mean come on...they know that Mishti and Juhi cant live with them. Neil is married. He has a wife. He cant have his ex and their presumed child living with them. They will have to live separately, the same as if Juhi and Neil were divorced. They have to treat them as a divorced couple. Because in a sense they are co-parents, but not married. Neil being married should not be an issue to this situation coz Neil thought Juhi was dead. They cant blame him for moving on and getting married. He doesn't love Juhi, nor is he interested in playing house with her. He loves his wife and wants to stay with her! So WHY can't they build the story around that? Why do they need Avni to "sacrifice?". THEN the bomb of the truth. Neil is not even the Father! Bala Tala! LOL


Who else cringes when Neil says "Meri Mishti" coz we know he's being made a Colossal fool of by Ms. Positivity! I cant see him being led down the garden path like this, it hurts! What I want is some Home Truths! Some BIG time home truths to be told! I hope Shweta does the honors. Wo Hai iss liye! No need to do Ashish, Ayesha Neela drama again, coz this aint that drama! Make Neil Ashish and this time show Ashish choose his kid! Please give us a break!


Wonderfully written! BAsically has everything i want to say. I wish the CVs saw this!
I really really hope that they have some other twist planned and that we are proved wrong but my experience with indian TV does not leave me feeling too optimistic. But i'm really praying that we get surprised by the CVs. As it is there are too many unrealistic and cringeworthy things happening (meri/hamari bacchi remarks) and the only saving grace is that avni and neil are clear that they love each other and want to be together. and if they get separated because avni wants to sacrifice it'll be horrible!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Thanks guys for supporting. I see many old members have left cause obviously show is not upto the mark like it used to be. Will comment Tomorrow and rant further 😆 🤗
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Here?😆🤢 these people get no time for each other bas samaj seva.😉❤️
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gucciwriter2

Here?😆🤢 these people get no time for each other bas samaj seva.😉❤️

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abhi here😛 samaj seva arre gareebon ko khana khilao ye log to kisiko bhi ghar utha late hai🤢 ghar hai ya dharamsala


Originally posted by: neeraja91


Wonderfully written! BAsically has everything i want to say. I wish the CVs saw this!
I really really hope that they have some other twist planned and that we are proved wrong but my experience with indian TV does not leave me feeling too optimistic. But i'm really praying that we get surprised by the CVs. As it is there are too many unrealistic and cringeworthy things happening (meri/hamari bacchi remarks) and the only saving grace is that avni and neil are clear that they love each other and want to be together. and if they get separated because avni wants to sacrifice it'll be horrible!



whatever twist is planned further they all looks like another mess on top of whats already in here. i thought vidut gonna b harsh villain now according to promo hes joining hand with positive??? what does this even mean, ye bachi hai kiski? are we supposed to buy he started obsessing over avni out of nowhere?? meri bachi ok lets give the guy a break, he thinks its his kid (without dna test, bharosa much?) but this seperation is bullsit. avni taking away neil's power of decision making and she should just back away, she did enough. its his life and kid, let him decide plz.

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