Episode Discussion Thread: 14th August - 18th August - Page 8

I loved today's episode especially the scene where they were talking while children wrapping that Shawl around them.

Since the beginning of this episode, these two had eyes only for each other, their souls drawn to each other like magnets, missing each other, longing for each other, wanting to talk with each other ...even during the pooja they were more focused on each other, I wish I could learn akhoon ki bacha to read all what they were saying to each other! It was so evident, that everyone noticed how these two were lost in each other!

Needless to say that I didn't like the way Shweta and Bebe treated Avni by not giving her their blessings and Shweta by even turning her back to her so rudely. Neil obviously wasn't blind to that and he didn't like it at all but his problem is of another level, he wanted his lady love to take that leap of faith, he wanted her to feel that their relationship is worth a try, rest of the things he can handle, what's the use of fighting his family if she is not there with him to show him that she really wants and cares for what they have between them (their binaam rishta), that she is ready to trust him to fix any other thing but that, while deeming that whatever is there between them is worth a try, is worth fighting for. This is his main problem!

I think he had a better understanding of Avni's feelings during their second scene. He first went behind her because he knew she was hurt by his mother and grand mother's behavior, he knew she had a point on whatever she said about not wanting to create tension in the house and that he himself saw how his mother turned her back to her and left and how if she comes back home each time there will be a fight in the house. He stood besides her looking at her teary eyes. He said he wants to tell her a lot of things but he doesn't know whether it's of any use now because the fact that she has already taken a drastic final decision of not coming back and breaking all the relationships with all of them (he stressed with a lot of pain on sab ki saath, sab rishte naate todd kar the word sab referring to himself also, obviously at this stage he wouldn't have specified only himself but deep down this is what he meant) this fact hurt him to no end! she didn't ask him for time, she didn't say let's wait till the storm passes, till you fix things with your family, till they understand, she just refused to come back which was synonym for him to breaking their relationship especially because when he said last time that if you want to break this relationship then I won't call you again, she didn't react to his words. For him it was easy for her to give up on their relationship! This is something which is killing him!!

When she denied the fact of wanting to break relationships with them (including him) by saying that he is misunderstanding her, he had that moment where he kept looking at her, trying to read her eyes, trying to understand what she really wants! When he got tired he asked her, frustrated, in a straightforward way Aakhir tum chahte kya hoon /what do you want ? till when they will be in this situation (Me on behalf of Neil :neither they are together nor they are apart!!!) But obviously our beautiful tubelight misunderstood what he said (you should see his expression, he was like No, not again!), she thought he was taking about being tied together with shawl or maybe even she meant being tied in their relationship, she must have thought again that she is a burden for him!! Anyways she was hurt because of what she misunderstood, she thinks he is upset of them being tied together, she even had that teardrop at the corner of her eye! But then she finally said something very meaningful which gave Neil more insight into what she thinks, she said that she doesn't want him to have to choose between her or his family! I guess here Neil understood her better, she doesn't want to put him in a position where he has to choose, but he tried to make her indirectly understand that he doesn't have to choose, it doesn't always need to be like that! He clearly said that why does she always think according to her own perceptive, why does decide herself (me on behalf of Neil : why does she decide alone for both of them!) what is right and what is wrong?!!! He tells her that why does she complicate the things that can be solved easily (me on behalf of Neil : why does she complicate things that can be solved easily if they are together)?!!! And the tone in which he said kyun (maarjawan!), there was an amount of softness in this "kyun, begging her to understand that things are not as bad as she thinks, if they are together they can overcome it all, she just needs to give him a chance! Still no reaction from our beautiful tubelight who kept looking at him with her innocent beautiful bhare akheein, so he got frustrated again and his tone changed when he told her "why don't you try to understand?!, this life is meant to be lived not be played with! Still no reaction from her, I mean apart from looking at him lovingly with tears like if her life depends on it. He reached his limit 😆 and with a lot more frustration he said that if you have made your decision then be it , I won't come inbetween this freedom of yours, never! and he left from there leaving the poor thing behind looking at him clueless and hurt!

I can't tell you how much I loved this scene, the amount of underlying unsaid things and feelings in it!!! I mean they said meaningful things especially Neil but all what was driving what he said, what was behind their expressions, behind his frustration, behind the change of his tone, behind her tears was left untold and to our interpretation and perception!...Beautiful!

I might have gotten some few things wrong, afterall as I said there are many things untold and we need to read behind the lines, as many things are left to our interpretation so I'd really like to know what you all lovely members of this thread think. All I know is that I loved that scene as it had a lot of depth in it and I felt that even if I analyze it I would still be confused and miss many things, it was loaded with silence and ankahi baatein despite their talks, and that silence was saying a lot and I don't know if I got it all. I loved Neil's dialogues, he gave us more insight into what he thinks though he couldn't tell her directly everything and he expected her to try to understand, but Neil darling, she doesn't even understand what she feels, she just feels and reacts, all she knows is that she is pained and hurt at your frustration and she wonders why don't you get her point?!

Another scene that I liked is his scene with Bebe, mainly because of what he said which give me more insight into what he feels. At that moment, he felt so dejected, so defeated, so miserable. A relationship with Avni for him was a dream like reality, he started believing it's reality but now it shattered and this hurt him so deeply that at that moment he lost his strength to fight (Me : Vamos Neil!, she is yours, just be a little patient, she will be there with you, hala ki it will take you a near death experience to get her back, but as they say "ye ishq nahi aasan aag ka dariya doob ke jaana).

Yaar the poor thing was so sad, so emotionally down that he didn't even want to question Bebe or discuss what happened with her. For him all this is of no use now that he lost the woman he loves as he knows as long as she thinks there will be tension because of her in the house she won't come back. Obviously even if Neil tries; he knows that despite defending Avni and being there for her all the time, he can't change what his mom and Bebe think overnight! I feel that indirectly he was upset with Bebe though he didn't ask her for anything or tell her off but he made it clear that because of tension in the house (caused by her and Shweta mainly!!!) his Avni will never come back. He didn't miss to point out to her in impaftcul way though not directly that why people mess things and then ask God to show them the path which Bebe was precisely doing!! But yes his focus was more on his pain, so it's not like he was sulking at Bebe and Shweta, he hoped Avni would make the difference and fight along with him for their relationship because she thinks it's worth it enough, then he could give her the reassurance that he will do his best to fix things.

About Avni, I completely understand where she comes from. Her past, her fears, her self respect, and above all her love for Neil which is making her do what she thinks is the best for him, though the decision in such things should be made by both which Neil insinuated when he told her "kyu tum khud decide karti hoon kya sahi hai aur kya ghalat ...

Anyways enjoying all this actually, I'm not taking sides, I'm just explaining what they feel and I love them and love that they are not apart for some stupid or frivolous, illogical reasons. Both are understandable in their stands.

P.S: Ignore typos/lack of punctuation and the complicated style of writing which might give you a headache (it gives it to me as well when I re-read, that's what happens when you want to tell everything you have in mind and you go for long sentences instead of coherent simple ones😆). Excuse the length of the post, I set my ideas free and they flowed in abundance😆 Sorry if there is any incoherence in my thoughts. Moreover I just love these two and their story, I was in two minds whether I should post something or not, as at times I feel I just repeat myself, and at times I feel that I don't have words to describe things, like I feel confused but I know these scenes are beautiful and loaded with meanings, I feel like I just want to enjoy watching and reading instead of writing myself something.

Neil : "Avni, main kehna to bohot kuch chahta hoon, pata nahi meri bolne ka faida hai bhi ya nahi kyu ki tum apna faisla to le cho ki hoon, hum sab ki saath rishte naate sab todd kar!"

Avni : "Tum mujhe ghalat samajh rahi hoon Neil!"

Neil : "Aakhir tum chahte kya hoon Avni?!, Hum kab tak aise rahenge?!, kab tak?!!"

Avni : "Aise hai?! bandhe hui?! ek doosare ki saath?!...Main nahi chahte Neil ki meri vajah se tumhe apni family ya mujh mein kisi ko chuna pade"

Neil : "Avni tum apni hissab se kyu hamesha sochte hoon, kyu tum khud decide karti hoon kya sahi hai aur kya ghalat?! ...Jo cheez hum asaani se sulja sakte hai usse aur kyu uljati hoon tum?!...kyu?! ...samajne ki koshish karo ..why don't you understand Avni ki jo zindagui hai wo jeene ki liye hote hai iss ki saath mat khelo !!...Agar tumne iss bandan ko toddne ka faisla kar liya to phir teek hai tumhari iss azaadi ki beech mein main kabhi nahi auonga..kabhi nahi..."

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

@Anu:

Trust me I am usually totally against off screen shipping. But in this case I can't seem to help myself. But I contain it I really do. I don't go on Insta and on twitter I am restrained on this subject. I usually comment only on the show and of course occasionally Zain's hotness! Lol

But yes the mystery deepens daily. There is a rapport. A certain level of comfort there. But there is a reserve too and an undertone! :) You can't help but be drawn to it! Maybe it's the restraint. It's a lot more appealing than those co stars that laugh too much and smack each other and you can clearly see they are "bros" off screen! :) This is clearly not one of those situations. That is pretty evident even to the non keen observer and we are keen ones! Lol

Let's just say I won't be at all dissapointed if this ship sails. It won't be the first one and it most certainly won't be the last! This ship has great potential as I think we are dealing with opposites here. A is reserved and Z is not! :)