~First glimpse of rivalry~ December 6th

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi everyone, sorry this took so long.

Yesterday's episode was so much better than Saturday's, both in terms of content and execution. There were more thrills and not a dull moment.

Let's get started with the Rithik and Shivanya scenes. All of them were adorable, I know I say that a lot but seriously, these two are just so good together and I don't have many words left to describe how well they play off one another. The kaanta removal scene was the cutest, and the way rithik asked "tumhe gudgudi bhi hoti hai?" with the most charming smile and shivanya blushed in response. It is ok shivanya, if someone smiled at me like that then I would blush too. Next came the most laugh out loud scene of the episode, rithik clad in a towel only and shivanya in her slip. Oh the look of horror on shivanya's face and rithik just seemed amused by all this but made use of the situation to get her to address him as "tum" and not "aap." Their expressions in that scene were worth noting and Yamini ran upstairs fearing that one of them got hurt only to walk in on them in such an awkward moment. Shivanya was mortified but not Rithik, he was only disappointed that he did not get to see his wife in her state of undress. After the uncomfortable moment, both ran to Yamini to explain themselves as if they were a pair of children. Again, what a cute scene, shivanya wanted to run while rithik did not want to face his mom on his own.

Rithik's expressions during the kitchen scene were adorable, poor guy looked so annoyed. Although I wish that song was not there, because it was out of place. He looked so excited when he suggested shivanya and him go to the bedroom while decorating the pillar, as if a kid was finally about to get a candy but no such luck.

Now onto the most interesting part, Shesha and Shivanya conversation; I'm left wondering what did the raheja family do to her to warrant such hatred and a thirst for revenge? If it was 100 years ago then clearly it wasn't them but the ancestors, which makes her basis of revenge very shaky. People who have wronged her is not even alive anymore, and clearly she hates everyone not only rithik. Is the 100 year tapasya right, or did the creative screw up with the timeline? Anyways, the spark of animosity was visible between shesha and shivanya due to the difference of opinions.there was a flicker of emotion on her face when sesha mentioned her "nakli pati" love or not, shivanya has developed a soft corner for rithik.

I'm beginning to doubt Yamini's involvement in the murders, she is such a doting mother to rithik and an even nicer mother-in-law to shivanya. Maybe the true villain is actually Ankush and not her? After watching the episode, something else is nagging me; does yamini even about the murders ankush and friends committed? I know this is an odd question but what if anky and her are on a different page? While Yamini is freaking out about rithik's kundali dosh, ankush is scared about consequences of killing shivanya's parents? I could be wrong but this thought came to me after I noticed that every time anky talks about the 20 year old secret, Yamini is never there. There is another raaz he talks about, but that is associated with the haveli and the rithik lookalike. I have bad memory so you guys tell me, has yamini ever said anything that referred to the murders of shivanya's parents?

This suri is such a clown and now we know why he is on his third wife, probably cheated on the previous two. I don't think he will die as makers did not bring mazher syed for two episodes only. Surely there is a much sinister face behind the clownish mask. He may prove to be shivanya's biggest challenge in the future. Someone's eyes were shown in the flashback, who could it be? Yamini or someone we know. I don't think it was shesha because then suri would recognize her. Anyone have any idea? One thing though, shailesh was dressed like a servent. I think all of them were servants in that haveli, and then they hatched this murder plot so they can steal the naagmani and become rich. Then all of them, or maybe only ankush went onto kill the real owners of the haveli. I still doubt whether ankush actually killed the owners or did they die in some other way, then he and yamini took rithik with them?

Shesha's fight with that hawk was the show stopper, even with the shabby VFX it was good. Adaa is nailing it as shesha. Poor suri looked petrified; I bet he will never look at another girl after this horrific encounter. That last part, where she is taunting him was so well acted and the snake skin and glowing eyes just enhanced it even more. Great end to an awesome episode.

Shivanya's next target is suri, only hope that she does not come in front of him because I know he won't actually die.

Also, when do you think Shivanya will be exposed in front of rithik and family?

Thanks for reading. Please like or comment

December 6th- episode 11

~Zara

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Nice analysis Zara. Always enjoy reading them...

I think Sesha is Shivanya's grand mother 😃
Sesha is 100 plus and Shivanya talks to Sesha about her mom as if she is pretty well known to them... why couldn't Sesha be Shivany's mom's mom 😆😆 That would be sensational for TRP aunties 😆😆

I am sure Yamini does not know the complete truth about the murders. Thats only known to the terrible 5. When Shivanya talks to Yamini about her parents and how they were murdered, Yamini should have been able to put two and two together to suspect Shivanya which she does not... so... we dont know yet.

Male or female who are known to us and are old enough to be one of the 5 are Yamini, Ramya, the Poojari of the shiv temple, Raja Rithik Or maybe Sesha herself?. RR is still a mystery; surprise element would be if the poojari, Sesha or Yamini turn out to be the 5th person. Knowing EK nothing can be ruled out. Given that Sesha is ichaadhari naagin, she need not have been in her true self during the murder.

Sesha may have an unrequited love towards the Raja and probably Rithik now? This may be the reason for her revenge. Wonder how the makers are going to justify Sesha's revenge... and hope they reveal her motives soon enough.

Yes... all of them seemed to be dressed like servants. But none of them talked like one in the Flashback 😆. Am sure Ritik is Raja's heir and Sesha's secret revolves around him... why else would he need Shivanya's protection 😃 The 5 people story would only be the beginning. They may reserve Sesha's story for part 2.

Btw, I think Yamini might be the Raja Ritik's daughter and hence the resemblance in Rithik. Wonder what secret Yamini and Anky share?
Edited by Chessy - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I loved the ending of the episode. That was the most interesting part of the epi.
Actually when Ankush was talking in the past with the mani even he was in mali clothes I guess.
Ankush did talk to yamini about what happened 20 years before, But they didnt speak about murder really. Dont know I am confused about whether she knows or not.
Loved the RiVanya bedroom scenes. We got quite a few RiVanya scenes yesterday unlike on Saturday.
I am waiting to know why Seesha is so against the Raheja family. Seesha-Shivanya clash is something I am waiting for.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sesha's thirst for revenge is striking me as odd as well. So is her concern that Shivanya murder the people who killed her family, i.e. Anky and friends. Why is she so blood-thirsty? She seems more into the idea of revenge that Shivanya? Or maybe it's just due to the acting - Ada pulls off the vengeful character better than Mouni?

I still feel like Sesha is after Hritik because of his ancestor. Maybe she wants to make sure Hritik is all alone when she finally kills him? Or maybe she wants him to suffer the way she did when the person she loved died? She thinks that Hritik loves his family so she'll hurt him from there? Kill those he loves and then kill him? But then wouldn't she realize that Hritik loves Shivanya -- or does she not know that?

Also, Sesha shows a lot of care and concern for Shivanya. Sometimes even more than that Shivanya shows for Sesha I feel. Like with the whole her calling her because she was concerned, showing up during the snake skin thing, etc. Why is that? Have the two known each other for a long time? I really got the feeling that the two were related somehow. What if Sesha is actually Shivanya's reincarnated mother? LOL idk I'm just guessing.

And I also strongly feel that Yamini isn't that bad. Like she can't be involved in murders. She's just so damn nice and supportive. It would be too much of a 180 change.

Also, I''m DESPERATELY hoping that Shivanya doesn't back out from the revenge. The way she keeps losing focus whenever Hriitk is around is worrying to me LOL. I just really want Anky and friends to suffer and die in the end LOL.

Another thing, I actually liked how principled Shivanya is. She'll only kill the killers and no one else. I'm actually enjoying her bonding with the family. Idk how real it is. But the amrita-her scene, with her calling her didi was nice. Same with the brother-in-law and her. Yamini and her are nice as well.

Btw nice analysis Zara!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sesha still remains a mystery. I am more interested in knowing what is sesha's ulterior motive more than the fifth person who was involved in the killings. Cause something tells me sesha's mystery is related to that.
The reflection in the flashback somehow looked like the kattak bhairav the sapera. And after yesterday's episode somehow I feel Yamini might not be as bad as we were thinking her to be. She is freaked about Ritik's kundali and may not know anky and Co. Committed such heinous crime 20 years ago. Yaminis concern with Naagin is because Ritik has the dosh in his kundali.

And RiVanya scenes are always a treat to watch out for :)

Nice analysis Zara :)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The episode was good. At least some action
Loved Sesha's ferociousness . They are making Shivanya into a meek person and I am not liking that

Shesha's wrong doers may not be ancestors but may have some connection to past life of one family member . Don't they say that Nagins take their revenge even in next life

we came face to face was the difference in value system of Shesha and Shivanya today , now it's clear Shesha has an ulterior motive and that motive wants even Ritik dead

I loved the way Sesha killed the hawk but I wish they show Shivanya doing powerful things too

As for your last question I think Shivanya will successfully kill Suri and Mathur but will be revealed when she attempts to kill Ankush and the fifth person

And I aalso think fifth person is Yamini . I feel so for the same reason that you think that she may not be the villain . Because she is being shown to be so nice that I feel the viewers will get a shock when she will be revealed . Her over goodness is making be suspicious

I also have a theory . This is so silly I promised myself I will never indulge in the prediction game after my last show but still here is the theory

Yamini could have been the wife of the Royal who loved in that haweli and Ritik was their son. She had an affair with Ankush . Killed the Royal married him and participated in the nagmani steeling . This may be totally wrong but to sprung in my mind just now
Edited by NandiniRaizadaa - 9 years ago
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thank you so much for the wonderful analysis..yet to watch the episodes of this week...

fist and foremost coming to rivanya..ritik is crazy about her ,so much that i doubt he even realizes she has become the center of his everything...the man who was forever bend over his laptop or phone is now busy finding 100 different ways to be with her ,touch her ,romance her...i doubt if he even realized he has fallen in love with her...and yes shivanya is melting how can she not..the girl who was brought up with the sole agenda of taking revenge ,filled her heart with hatred finds this soothing balm that shows her of the good things in life...a person who cares for her like no one did...hence her own battle as he is the son of the man who murdered her family..maybe she will get that release once she gets to know ritik is not their son...

i cannot stand tanvi...she is annoying ,has been from day one although i like ritik ka stand in front of her...he is such a sweetheart and noble soul indeed...hence before any of the other revelation i so want tanvi and her parents to be exposed before him...

shivanya ka truth is going to be the major climax along with ritik's past and shesha's real motive...hence there is no way it is coming out now...there is so much to be shown and revealed...her revenge on the 5 ,the 5th culprit and on the way she realizing she has fallen for ritik,shesha and her opposite stand...many truths...i think by the time she will reach ankush to take revenge...she may be too much into her heart andits emotions to hurt ritik...hence may simply try to go away ...and that would be revelation phase with the bad guys trapping her for the naagmani and i see ritik standing by her after the initial shock..he is going to retrieve the naagmani to its original place ,am pretty sure...

shesha's hatred,blind fury is most certainly not on behalf of shivanya..she is right now provoking shivanya to finish off the family and when shivanya backs out ,she will come to the fore with her truth...something terrible has happened 100 years ago ,i think that has made her do tapasya and become aicchadaari naaghin and scream about revenge ...so much pain that there is no right and wrong for her now...she was screaming at that portrait that she would take his life and also about some incomplete love story ..so yes her own role is something more intense and deep...i just hope the makers really do justice given how they have portrayed her till now

and i agree with you about suri...he is not going anywhere ..they would not get mazhar for 2-3 episodes just to enter and get killed...as you have said he may turn out to be the most vicious...ankush and shailesh or even viren could not have been the mastermind..they look rather like pawns...

there is still so many mysteries to be unraveled..i do not see any revelation anytime soon ,also the fact that this is not an already shot series but they are shooting simultaneously...hence it becomes hard to predict even for a finite series...

i really hope they focus more on shesha and her side along with ritik shivanya and just phase out tanvi and her family...she and her dus saal ka pyaar needs to take a hike

thank you once again...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: NandiniRaizadaa

The episode was good. At least some action

Loved Sesha's ferociousness . They are making Shivanya into a meek person and I am not liking that

Shesha's wrong doers may not be ancestors but may have some connection to past life of one family member . Don't they say that Nagins take their revenge even in next life

we came face to face was the difference in value system of Shesha and Shivanya today , now it's clear Shesha has an ulterior motive and that motive wants even Ritik dead

I loved the way Sesha killed the hawk but I wish they show Shivanya doing powerful things too

As for your last question I think Shivanya will successfully kill Suri and Mathur but will be revealed when she attempts to kill Ankush and the fifth person

And I also think fifth person is Yamini


Writers are trying to show that Shivanya has a concious, and since she is the lead of a BT show, they will defintitely keep her hands clean as much as they can. so vicious stuff like killing hawks are only reserved for shesha.😆 I think shesha's ultimate target, the point of this revenge agenda is to kill rithik but shivanya does not know that yet.


I hope makers know what they are doing, there is alot of complicated mystery here so I hope they don't mess it up in the last minute. sort of like reporters, where the writers lost sight of the story towards the end and definitely not a long seperation between rivanya.

thanks for commenting😊
Edited by pomegranate - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Ho I am new to the forum. Love the analysis👏
I too think that sheesha s revenge is too extreme. Shivanya is in love but does not realise it.

My worry is ekta s habit of splitting couples up. I would like to see Shivanya and ritvik together seeking revenge
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Originally posted by: pomegranate

it's time they at least reveal a part of her history. most likely, rithik's lookalike killed her lover but still not sure. i think both are doing a good job, it is just adaa's portrayal is more sadistic thanks to the character.

it could be any of the above. Writers have set up a really interesting mystery, I only hope they know how to execute it. there is also a mystery associated with rithik's past, which seems to completely seperate from shivanya's story. there isn't a lot of time, and hopefully makers won't make a complete khichdi out of the plot. they need to start unraveling sesha's past because I'm sure shivanya only knows a part of it. Even when they talk, sesha only talks about shivanya's parents-not herself.

in a SBS segment adaa said, she found the 4th person who killed their family. did she worded it wrong or are shivanya and shesha related somehow. maybe but I'm confused because shesha did 100 year tapasya to become a icchadhari nagin. not sure what is going on, but I hope writers have a plan in mind.

I'm actually surprised with how focused she is. it is just that with rithik, a different side comes out. since a young she has been burdened by the weight of revenge, it is sad that she never had a normal life. with rithik, the normal side comes out. although, I want her to exposed in front of the family. kind of like "ripping the band aid off" as these days, I feel bad watching their cute scenes because of the impending doom.

yeah I like it too. she will start developing a soft corner for the family as she stays there and that is not wrong, it's inhumane to kill people for no fault of theirs but I don't necessarily dislike shesha for her way thinking.

thanks for commenting


I agree. Like you said, the show only has a limited time frame and sesha's past is a big question. We literally have gotten no hints aside from the fact that she did tabasya to become nagin and that Hritik look-alike ancestor personally harmed her. The whole her lover being killed was from spoilers na? Even Hritik's mystery is being touched on a bit more - Anky and co. kidnapped him/ he's not their biological son. Like you, I hope the CVs don't make a kichdi out of all of this. There's so many mysteries. I really want justice to be done to all of them.

Maybe Sesha is under the illusion that the entire Raheja family wronged her? And she think Anky and co. are a part of the royal Raheja's -- she doesn't know that they stole the nagmani and the family identity? That would explain her dislike for the entire family? Plus, she's SUPER strong. Like much more stronger than Shivanya. Which means that Shiva probably favours her a lot/ she did a lot to recieve her powers? I just don't want Sesha to be reduced to a one-dimensional villain. I want her to have a backstory and to have her rightful revenge. I don't want her to die unhappy/ unfulfilled.

LOL Ada said that? I think maybe she herself is unsure of Sesha's story? 😆 But they could definitely be related. How long do snakes even live for? Do snakes have a different timeline LOL? Maybe 100 snake years is like 20 hrs in human time? 😆 JK JK idk. I'm just trying to match up the timelines. Maybe Sesha knew Shivanya's parents?

OH sidenote -- did you notice her outfit changed? I remember some forum members were complaining about her always wearing the same thing and today she had like 2 different outfits 😆

And oohhh okay thanks! I never actually thought of Hritik-Shivanya as Shivanya finally being carefree/ her age! That makes sense! LOL why do you want her to be exposed to the family? I don't want her to be exposed until the end so she could have an easier time enacting revenge 😆!

Yeah I don't dislike Sesha for her thinking either! I think I'm actually growing used to Ada and her acting. She didn't click for me as initially as Hritik/Shivanya did because I think I found Ada's performance a little too hammy but she's not bad at all. She's actually quite compelling! I'm growing more psyched for Ada's story!

Also, is it just me, or is shivanya super forgetful? First the skin shedding, then the door open, maybe next time she'll transform into a snake forgetting Hritik is there 😆

Also, Tanvi is back. Not sure how I feel about that LOL. What do you think? Will she be the stereotypical vamp now for Shivanya LOL???


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