Does Monil & Ponky even deserve any pity? - Page 3

I actually find this part very strange - Veer was a close friend of the groom, then why did he sleep with Noor in the first place when he knew that it was a clear betrayal. The groom was not just cheated by his would be bride but also by his friend. Just my opinion.

True! Ofc, Veer committed a crime too! But, they had potrayed Veer anyways a kamina whom bani hates, that's why I didn't mention that from his POV!

Originally posted by: libran90

I agree with this point too. Just to justify Bani's revenge and pull up Bani's character which is already so weak, they pulled down the other characters. This rapist angle was added in forcefully. Monil was turned into a rapist to justify Naagin's badla, which in the first place, does not exist.

It did not look real at all. It was like a forced angle just to start her revenge saga.

Originally posted by: J2lover

Well, I feel if bani is considering herself at the place of authority, where she can give the judgement for every enemy of hers, I feel she should also know the difference between punishment and redemption.

She needs to take time, analyze and than decide.

In a country like India, the fact that our law resorts to redemption/ lifelong imprisonment and there still isn't death penalty for a rapist, shows that how strongly we believe in redemption. Now, its right or wrong that's subjective.

But here, bani too is the law. She's considering herself the justice giver, right? So it shouldn't be that straightforward for her, as to find the criminal and kill!

Safai deney ka chance sab ko milna chaiye.

She must be the one to analyse, 'kon kitna paani mei hai!' There's a difference between mistakes and sins.

Monil did deserve to die, no doubt! Even ponky did! There crime was henious! But that's the point. To what extent bani will go punish the bad people?

Correct me if am wrong, but good and bad is subjective!

Why her punishment is just stick with killing only. Why no other punishment.

Bani says all the cheels are bad! But then by that logic, even noor had committed the crime! She slept with Veer just a night before her wedding, cheating on her fiance!

Now, if we can consider that as her innocent mistake, something which tapish and daksh are doing isn't far from that.

Tapish and Daksh are merely following the orders of their father and uncle? Why? Maybe, they haven't gotten the leverage like Veer to keep an opinion of their own!

Don't know maybe makers will come up any of there dark secret just to justify bani's revenge.

Supporting a crime and committing a crime a two different things! Cheel brothers are not pure evil. If that was the case, they would have seen bani too with that filthy POV. None of them ever saw bani with any bad intentions, inspite of her being just a human (for them)!

They always treated her like their bhabhi, their elder brother's wife! Same was the case with mayuri! So, there is a scope of redemption. In monil's case, Its totally agreeable. To some extent even ponky.

But ponky is really someone who seems redeemable to me. He should be given the harshest punishment ever for his crime, but death? I don't feel so!

Its said that, killing finishes the criminal not the crime.

Ponky, tapish and daksh aren't purely evil at their core! They are brought up like that! If we are considering Aadi-naagin as the court of justice here, she should consider the background with which the crimes are committed! Noor was her bestfriend, so that personal involvement will also be there! But in case of human trafficking, killing off everyone, doesn't seem a wise choice! Balwant should die! No doubt. He is sinful! I can't talk about pawan chachu, but he seems like a lakshman to Ram sorts, does whatever the elder brother says. Actually Shukla deserves to die even before Balwant. He has been the real ass in this whole situation.

Also, by bani's so called logic of not committing anything bad, wasn't bani's chachi being bad to meera as well! Isn't she greedy enough to marry off her daughter to someone she doesn't even know! So will bani ever look at her from that POV? I know, it's not a good comparison factor.

But am just trying to say, bani's judgement here is clouded by her, last birth's rage! The cheels did bad to her and her clan, agreed! But When? And are all cheels bad enough to deserve a death like monil?

I just feel, bani isn't some undercover agent, who's paid to kill everyone, in that house! Nor this the case like other seasons that her own personal losses are involved except with respect to balwant!

So she shouldn't be a 'bailbuddhi' who goes on a killing spree and act like a killing machine! It would actually show her Aadi-naagin prowess if she analysis who should be killed and who should be punished, coz thet are indeed two very different things!

Now here, I felt the need to defend the cheel family, coz the makers have shown us the facets of the family for so long now. If they wanted to justify bani's killing they should have shown them purely evil, right from start!

Redemption can happen. Bani first need to judge the intentions. Maybe tapish is not happy with this business but he has no authorities to stop it. Maybe daksh and pawan are not that evil that are complied to follow the others of balwant.

Originally posted by: AutumnColors

Didn't Veer slept with Noor as well? That mean he also committed the crime as well? Sleeping together is on one own wills. Noor wasn't any saint no doubt but that doesn't mean she deserves to get rape or kill either. Why only Noor? Who knows how many other girls these guys rape, Bani tried to get justice for Noor the legal way when she went to the police station with video evidence but the police deleted the video because they're the friends with cheel family. Cheel brothers didn't even spare Bani at one point they called her a "chick" on VaNi shaadi night if Veer didn't put some sense into them, they wouldn't have spared Bani either. They didn't respect Bani at first it's Veer who made them respect her and ask them to call her "Bhabhi"

Cheel family were shown evil from the very start expect for Veer they're all criminals.

True! Am not for once saying that they are good! They are bad, all of them! Even Veer! His sleeping with Noor can never be justified! Also, he wasn't the same before bani came into his life, even he must have done bad things which could be punishable!

But am just saying, giving someone the punishment of death is a huge deal! Monil and ponky definitely deserves to die! Moreover for their attitude towards noor even today! The way they were discussing about her the other day was purely disgusting!

Am mainly talking about others! Tapish and Daksh especially! Well, if they establish a more solid reason with respect to both of them, bani should definitely kill them, but killing them off for involvement in the sex trafficking thing could be refrained from! Just my personal opinion! They are somewhat following the orders!

They should be punished in the worst possible way but killing seems too much I feel! They just do not give those purely evil vibes to me!

Originally posted by: _NINA_

Redemption can happen. Bani first need to judge the intentions. Maybe tapish is not happy with this business but he has no authorities to stop it. Maybe daksh and pawan are not that evil that are complied to follow the others of balwant.

Exactly! Cheels were shown bad right from start! But if bani is giving a benefit of doubt to Veer, why not others? Now, if her feelings for him is getting the better of her somewhere, then that's a different story!😆 But overall, jo cheel saamne aaye, bss maardo! This sounds a bit 'one toned' to me!

As sohini had mentioned in one of her posts, bani can take revenge or give justice! She cannot do both at the same time! If its revenge, every cheel must die, irrespective of his level of crime! Big or small, but then she shouldn't name it as justice! Justice is given on the level of crime committed!

But you are right, in order to justify bani's killing, they will create some dark secrets of both tapish and daksh too! They all are gonna die it seems!😆

Originally posted by: J2lover

Exactly! Cheels were shown bad right from start! But if bani is giving a benefit of doubt to Veer, why not others? Now, if her feelings for him is getting the better of her somewhere, then that's a different story!😆 But overall, jo cheel saamne aaye, bss maardo! This sounds a bit 'one toned' to me!

As sohini had mentioned in one of her posts, bani can take revenge or give justice! She cannot do both at the same time! If its revenge, every cheel must die, irrespective of his level of crime! Big or small, but then she shouldn't name it as justice! Justice is given on the level of crime committed!

But you are right, in order to justify bani's killing, they will create some dark secrets of both tapish and daksh too! They all are gonna die it seems!😆

Oh don't say that

Mujhe bas naagin mummy se umeed hai ki vo bani ko itna engage karde ki bani Dharti ka maseeha ka role chhod adi naagin ke role ko seriously le , taki naag clan kuch bhala ho .

Illegal business bhi sirf cheel clan ko evil dekhane ke liye hai. Sirf ek baar dekhaya unhe sach main evil deeds karte baaki time to sab ghar pe hote hai , once veer knows this business will finish once 4 all. Bani ko naaya revenge dhundna padega

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Oh don't say that

Mujhe bas naagin mummy se umeed hai ki vo bani ko itna engage karde ki bani Dharti ka maseeha ka role chhod adi naagin ke role ko seriously le , taki naag clan kuch bhala ho .

Illegal business bhi sirf cheel clan ko evil dekhane ke liye hai. Sirf ek baar dekhaya unhe sach main evil deeds karte baaki time to sab ghar pe hote hai , once veer knows this business will finish once 4 all. Bani ko naaya revenge dhundna padega

True! They should have shown na, how bad they really are?😆 All are just at home and keeps romancing with alcohol! How will we hate the cheels then?😆

Originally posted by: AutumnColors

Didn't Veer slept with Noor as well? That mean he also committed the crime as well? Sleeping together is on one own wills. Noor wasn't any saint no doubt but that doesn't mean she deserves to get rape or kill either. Why only Noor? Who knows how many other girls these guys rape, Bani tried to get justice for Noor the legal way when she went to the police station with video evidence but the police deleted the video because they're the friends with cheel family. Cheel brothers didn't even spare Bani at one point they called her a "chick" on VaNi shaadi night if Veer didn't put some sense into them, they wouldn't have spared Bani either. They didn't respect Bani at first it's Veer who made them respect her and ask them to call her "Bhabhi"

Cheel family were shown evil from the very start expect for Veer they're all criminals.

I wholeheartedly agree with you! Veer slept with Noor as well! He also cheated his friend. Yes, Noor did something wrong. Human beings are not perfect. They sometimes do mistakes. But that doesn't mean Veer can humilate her like that in front of every person. Every girl deserves repect! She belonged to a decent family. Her parents must have felt so embarrassed! If Noor were alive today she would have remained unmarried because of that incident. As far as Monil's death is concerned, I'm so glad he died. Ponky should also die!

Originally posted by: AliChase

Back to my ranting space. (Sorry if it annoys you guys but.... muh band nahi hota mera)

1. Bani sees herself as someone who has to provide justice so, she also has to understand the crime done.

Please marna mat mujhe but I'm gonna give my favourite referce from Ramayan. (Log offend honge but I'll still do that). Like all of Ravana's sons were powerful. His brothers were powerful. Lanka was like an indomitable force. Yet all of them fell from grace because of their brother/father Ravana. He did wrong but took down a once glorious empire. They all were powerful and had their strengths but none of them ever went against Ravana and they had to follow his orders. They did so knowing that what Ravana was doing was wrong.

Yaha bhi it is something similar. Tapish, Daksh and Pawan have no say in what they want. They don't have the leverage to have a say in it. Only Veer does. Veer has been given that freedom and power because of his status as one of the most powerful Cheels. When the right person doesn't take charge, it is left to those who don't make right use of the power. Because Veer doesn't take the front seat, Balwant is free to do as he wants.

2. Bani is like a charging bull or a cornered spectacled cobra (It is my favourite reference for Bani because she's a Naagin). She doesn't stop to judge between the colours. It doesn't matter to the bull if it is maroon or red or magenta. It sees them the same way and charges up towards them. It doesn't matter to the spectacled cobra that the person before it is trying to rescue it, it will hiss and aggresively attack anyone before it. Bani does the same. She doesn't stop to judge them first. She makes no effort to research about what is both the sides of the story.

It took Bani three months to see that Veer isn't evil or anything. Gods know how long she will take to see that Daksh Tapish and Pawan aren't all that evil and can have a chance at getting better.

3. About redemption. Redemption is for those who feel remorse for what they have done. If you accidently hit someone with a vehicle, it is wrong, but if you take enough care to take them to the hospital and make sure that you try to help them in all possible way, then you have a chance for redemption. That is redemption. To realize what you have done is wrong, feel remorse and do something to make it right.

Considering Monil and Ponky don't feel remorse, they can't reach the state of redemption. Monil deserved to die the way he did. I'll stand on it. He couldn't be saved when he felt zero remorse over it. Ponky also doesn't feel remorse. It is simply the fear of Bani's anger not repentence of doing such a horrendous crime. They weren't 10 years old who did not know the concept of consent or the concept of right and wrong. I agree there are grey shade but there is even a line after which Grey becomes black. To stop before that line is called being grey.

4. Daksh, Tapish and Pawan aren't 100% evil. I agree. It is the same. They are bound to follow Balwant's orders because he's the head. He's the one who gives them the power and luxury of being who they are. Being at the top. Cheels are powerful because they live in groups. They have that unity. Wolves are apex predators because they hunt in packs. Each of them have each other's back in an attack. If one of the wolves goes lone, they are an easy target to the lion to kill. A single hyena, no matter how strong his bite is, can be easily killed by a lion or a lioness but when it comes in a pack, the lion has no chance but to back off, leave his own hunt if needed to save its life. Tapish, Daksh and Pawan are in no condition to leave their pack and be on their own.

5. Shukla is definitely at the top for being the one who should die. He neither does have the wish to keep the family safe nor does he wish to destroy the family on a whole. His loyalties lie to himself. He's a part of the pack only so that he has a way to escape alive if the Naag attacks them. He knows that he can run back to the Singhania as long as they don't find out about his act. They're his safe spot. He's like that "Jis thaali mein khaate hai usmein hi chhed karte hai" kind of person. He's can't remain loyal to anyone. When his purpose serves, he'll leave Markaat too. Hence, he's nothing but a pawn to Markaat.

Agreed👍🏼

Whatever Monil and Ponky had done with Noor and other girls, they deserved it.. Jo log keh rahe hai yeh reason strong nahi hai revenge k liye, idk kis mitti se bane hai woh.. Monil is the main culprit and so as Ponky... These two never respected girls.. Even Bani also.. Even after knowing Bani is their sister in law, Monil called her chic.. Ponky went to swimming pool with her, obviously bad intention se hi.. So deserve punishments. Ab Monil k maut and reason Jaanne k baad Ponky and other cheels also know Ponky next target hogi Bani ki... So dekhte hai kaise bachte hai yeh...

Daksh and Tapish these two characters have more scopes, and inn dono ka bohat kuch reveal karna baki hai. Illegal dhande k baarein mein pata hai but kitna khud involved hai yeh dono yeh abhi tak show nahi kia.. So dekhte hai makers inn k liye kya decide karte hai.. Ponky Monil ka toh suru se hi pata tha yeh dono ne hi Noor ko maara tha.. They confessed it in front of their father