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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: forest_foliage

I feel that the Cheels & Bani are supposed to team up together for a higher purpose. So their bonding has to change. As much as I love Ballu it can't be overlooked that he's a negative character who has committed dark deeds - I'm not sure if he can be redeemed. Aajkal ye Cheel family bilkul insaano ki tarah behave karti hai with the concern & emotions they have for each other.

Raja Dasharath yaad hai. Usko 'putramoh' ka problem tha, because of a curse received by Shravan Kumar's parents, that he will die by separation from his beloved son. Since, ye ek ajeeb sa tedha Ramayan chal raha hai, Ballu the bear bhi kuch aisa hi hai. Dasharath wasn't a very great person, to begin with, and he had made many errors in his life as a father and husband. So Ballu the bear, in the name of his son has done a lot of questionable things and hence he will die a similar death, as in his love for Veer will be his end. The rest of the people, I don't think will die a miserable death, but will walk towards light like Veer.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Raja Dasharath yaad hai. Usko 'putramoh' ka problem tha, because of a curse received by Shravan Kumar's parents, that he will die by separation from his beloved son. Since, ye ek ajeeb sa tedha Ramayan chal raha hai, Ballu the bear bhi kuch aisa hi hai. Dasharath wasn't a very great person, to begin with, and he had made many errors in his life as a father and husband. So Ballu the bear, in the name of his son has done a lot of questionable things and hence he will die a similar death, as in his love for Veer will be his end. The rest of the people, I don't think will die a miserable death, but will walk towards light like Veer.

Yeh season mein Cheelo ke saath attachment ho gayi hai, Ballu ka pata nahi kya hoga.... Veer ke saath his brothers too will change for the better, Tapish is a mysterious & doubtful prospect altogether. No idea about Pawan lambu chachu.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manu_986

I knew it. Aadi nagin ne bhi paap Kiya and that's why she had to take a new janam for atonement. And now this is "Shiv ji ki leela" that she's married to veer. So that she can protect him and he can too. Isn't this some kind of vardan? Jo Shivji ne veer ko diya hai directly or indirectly??

Whatever it is... But one thing is clear that marrying veer is just not destiny of bani but it is more responsiblity that she has to fulfill as an act of atonement.

I agree wirh your view.

This time sge has to be the saviour to the enemy.

That's why the dushman devta is also worried that Veer married Bani

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Well, I simply feel there won't be any rocket science behind this 10,000 divya varsh curse. What I simply understand is the makers wanted to introduce this cheel-naagin plot in the story, right? So, from where to start? It has to be Satyug! Coz, since our chidhood, we have heard these stories taking place that time itself! The appearances of such ichhadaaris and exisistance of magic then continued in tretayug and finally ended in dwapar yug! As kaliyug is considered as the most practical one with human dominance over everyrthing!

Anyways, coming back to the curse, so, the introduction is done now in satyug, origin story has been told! Now, what? The satyug story should have some relevance to today's world right? They can't be showing the whole story in that yug, right? So, now the story has to move forward in kaliyug! Now, how many years could possibly gone in between? A vague 10,000 divya varsh! Bingo!smiley36 Mystery solved!smiley36

What am trying to say here is that this 10,000 divya varsh would anyways have been passed irrespective of the curse or no curse! That was the need of the story! Its more technical and less fictional! I mean, imagine the origin story starting in tretayug or dwapaar yug? That also would have been weird right? To tell a story's origin, they must SHOW the original timeline!

What's more important here, is the purpose of reincarnation and not the timespan! I mean, I don't really believe in reincarnations, but if people do take rebirth? There would be a purpose right? So, here, instead of the question, 'Why 10,000 divya varsh to take rebiryth? It should be, why rebirth in the first place! Shivji never clarified the purpose! So, that's the crux of the story!

Another thing, I just noticed yesterday! Veer, Bani and Jay are reincarnated with three of their most dominant traits!

Veer-Lust(Lets accept, right now its more lust than love!

Bani-Revenge

Jay-Jealousy

So, Lord Shivji was like, take these three traits of ours respectively and write a 2.0 version that damn story!smiley36

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: J2lover

Well, I simply feel there won't be any rocket science behind this 10,000 divya varsh curse. What I simply understand is the makers wanted to introduce this cheel-naagin plot in the story, right? So, from where to start? It has to be Satyug! Coz, since our chidhood, we have heard these stories taking place that time itself! The appearances of such ichhadaaris and exisistance of magic then continued in tretayug and finally ended in dwapar yug! As kaliyug is considered as the most practical one with human dominance over everyrthing!

Anyways, coming back to the curse, so, the introduction is done now in satyug, origin story has been told! Now, what? The satyug story should have some relevance to today's world right? They can't be showing the whole story in that yug, right? So, now the story has to move forward in kaliyug! Now, how many years could possibly gone in between? A vague 10,000 divya varsh! Bingo!smiley36 Mystery solved!smiley36

What am trying to say here is that this 10,000 divya varsh would anyways have been passed irrespective of the curse or no curse! That was the need of the story! Its more technical and less fictional! I mean, imagine the origin story starting in tretayug or dwapaar yug? That also would have been weird right? To tell a story's origin, they must SHOW the original timeline!

What's more important here, is the purpose of reincarnation and not the timespan! I mean, I don't really believe in reincarnations, but if people do take rebirth? There would be a purpose right? So, here, instead of the question, 'Why 10,000 divya varsh to take rebiryth? It should be, why rebirth in the first place! Shivji never clarified the purpose! So, that's the crux of the story!

Another thing, I just noticed yesterday! Veer, Bani and Jay are reincarnated with three of their most dominant traits!

Veer-Lust(Lets accept, right now its more lust than love!

Bani-Revenge

Jay-Jealousy

So, Lord Shivji was like, take these three traits of ours respectively and write a 2.0 version that damn story!smiley36

I would not call it Lust, I would call it desire and obsession and attraction. And the desire was stronger with Aakesh, and Veer is reborn with that, with him however, the predominant emotion is a strange connection and attraction he feels for Bani. Lust is more about the physical. Veer has never really exerted his rights as a husband on her till now. And as far as ill-behaviour is concerned, isn't that a standard among all the cheels? And in lust, you don't protect the person, even after knowing that the concerned person killed your own brother. No, I cannot at least term it is as lust. It is more what Veer feels from his mind and heart, not physical. Bani is a fitoor, a sanak. But yes, it hasn't transitioned into love yet, because that needs trust, support, companionship, partnership, understanding, which is absent in the relation, as of now.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: J2lover

Well, I simply feel there won't be any rocket science behind this 10,000 divya varsh curse. What I simply understand is the makers wanted to introduce this cheel-naagin plot in the story, right? So, from where to start? It has to be Satyug! Coz, since our chidhood, we have heard these stories taking place that time itself! The appearances of such ichhadaaris and exisistance of magic then continued in tretayug and finally ended in dwapar yug! As kaliyug is considered as the most practical one with human dominance over everyrthing!

Anyways, coming back to the curse, so, the introduction is done now in satyug, origin story has been told! Now, what? The satyug story should have some relevance to today's world right? They can't be showing the whole story in that yug, right? So, now the story has to move forward in kaliyug! Now, how many years could possibly gone in between? A vague 10,000 divya varsh! Bingo!smiley36 Mystery solved!smiley36

What am trying to say here is that this 10,000 divya varsh would anyways have been passed irrespective of the curse or no curse! That was the need of the story! Its more technical and less fictional! I mean, imagine the origin story starting in tretayug or dwapaar yug? That also would have been weird right? To tell a story's origin, they must SHOW the original timeline!

What's more important here, is the purpose of reincarnation and not the timespan! I mean, I don't really believe in reincarnations, but if people do take rebirth? There would be a purpose right? So, here, instead of the question, 'Why 10,000 divya varsh to take rebiryth? It should be, why rebirth in the first place! Shivji never clarified the purpose! So, that's the crux of the story!

Another thing, I just noticed yesterday! Veer, Bani and Jay are reincarnated with three of their most dominant traits!

Veer-Lust(Lets accept, right now its more lust than love!

Bani-Revenge

Jay-Jealousy

So, Lord Shivji was like, take these three traits of ours respectively and write a 2.0 version that damn story!smiley36


agree with all except Veer,s lust.


yeah its not lust rather Obsession as libran said.

he never showed any interest in physical with Bani rather its attraction and obsession.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

I would not call it Lust, I would call it desire and obsession and attraction. And the desire was stronger with Aakesh, and Veer is reborn with that, with him however, the predominant emotion is a strange connection and attraction he feels for Bani. Lust is more about the physical. Veer has never really exerted his rights as a husband on her till now. And as far as ill-behaviour is concerned, isn't that a standard among all the cheels? And in lust, you don't protect the person, even after knowing that the concerned person killed your own brother. No, I cannot at least term it is as lust. It is more what Veer feels from his mind and heart, not physical. Bani is a fitoor, a sanak. But yes, it hasn't transitioned into love yet, because that needs trust, support, companionship, partnership, understanding, which is absent in the relation, as of now.

Yes, wrong choice of words! Its desire maybe not lust!😛 But its in a grey patch, u see! Not truly love either and ofc, that's understandable! She has killed his brother! About ill-behaviour, I don't think he has behaved in a wrong way ever with her! Not even before marriage! They always have clash of words. in which bani is ,more vicious actually! Veeranshu Singhania is a bad boy with ethics, which makes him badass!😎

But veer definitely like to intimidate bani!😆 And I love the effect veer is having on bani now a days! Its very palpable on her face!😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: J2lover

Yes, wrong choice of words! Its desire maybe not lust!😛 But its in a grey patch, u see! Not truly love either and ofc, that's understandable! She has killed his brother! About ill-behaviour, I don't think he has behaved in a wrong way ever with her! Not even before marriage! They always have clash of words. in which bani is ,more vicious actually! Veeranshu Singhania is a bad boy with ethics, which makes him badass!😎

But veer definitely like to intimidate bani!😆 And I love the effect veer is having on bani now a days! Its very palpable on her face!😆

Bani is intimidated by Veeranshu, he also outsmarts her in many ways, and he has a strong impact on her, so much so that she ends up giving in instead of continuing with her futile resistance. Veer feels a strong pull towards Bani, because it is a soul to soul calling, he's yet to recall his past life but his soul has recognised the soul of Naageshwari, he just can't hate her as much as he claims to, he can't even hurt her - he can only show his anger & aggression (at times when he's very furious) but he won't go beyond that.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: forest_foliage

Bani is intimidated by Veeranshu, he also outsmarts her in many ways, and he has a strong impact on her, so much so that she ends up giving in instead of continuing with her futile resistance. Veer feels a strong pull towards Bani, because it is a soul to soul calling, he's yet to recall his past life but his soul has recognised the soul of Naageshwari, he just can't hate her as much as he claims to, he can't even hurt her - he can only show his anger & aggression (at times when he's very furious) but he won't go beyond that.

That's true! In veer's case, its his love since satyug! No wonder, he's gonna feel uncontrollable attraction towards bani! That time it was just one sided, but maybe, lord shivji decided to bless him with a two-sided love story this time as he proved his love by sacrificing himself!

And yes! Bani does feel helpless at times, infront of him! He has the wits which wreaks havoc in her at times!😆 She hates that!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: J2lover

That's true! In veer's case, its his love since satyug! No wonder, he's gonna feel uncontrollable attraction towards bani! That time it was just one sided, but maybe, lord shivji decided to bless him with a two-sided love story this time as he proved his love by sacrificing himself!

And yes! Bani does feel helpless at times, infront of him! He has the wits which wreaks havoc in her at times!😆 She hates that!

Bani has the streak of extreme anger & she's vindictive, like Naageshwari was. Aakesh on the other hand was totally head over heels for Naageshwari, but Veeranshu has got his brains in place, he does feel strongly for Bani but isn't a pagal deewana, as in pyaar mein fanaa hone wala type, his desire is very much in control & he knows how to handle his sweetheart Naagin Sharma 😄

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