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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mages



nopes he didn't want to kill rudra...he wanted to catch rudra and make him leave his home...thats it...if rudra has a partner with him...he wants to catch that partner too...both leaves the family...as a human...he is protecting his family...which is no wrong from his pov...

if rudra is saving shivangi...rocky is saving his family along with shivangi...both are not wrong...they are protecting their loved ones...one is doing as per his supernatural way...one is doing as per human way...both loves and cares for their loved ones...only difference rudra knows abt the surrounding and shivangi's truth while rocky doesn't know abt the surrounding and shivangi's truth...


If Only Shivangi Would Tell Rocky The truth. He Needs To Hear The Truth From Her. Then Iam Sure He Would Help Her Out.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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If Only Shivangi Would Tell Rocky The truth. He Needs To Hear The Truth From Her. Then Iam Sure He Would Help Her Out.


exactly...everyone makes him seem like a beast...its shivangi's fault...why blame rocky...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rein123


Catch him and then do what? Let him loose or put him in a cage or basket? And when uttara become his maasi all of a sudden?

and he thinking all the murders after encounter of SN Mandir .he first read the book before entry into place several times n by the guidence of book he reached through the suryavanshi symbol even felt the shock but he entered into there tried to lift NM alone by stating is this the thing all written or behind. n he learned from childhood stories. how that action counts. Wat he does if he successfully lift NM.. SN interrupted there n he came back home n then thinking of murders taken place in home by the IC nags. how he connected dots like that. ?? only uttara he seen with snake bite murder n before that no murder he seen or learned it was by a snake done n the same night he saw Rudra as snake. ? how come previous murders too happens by snake. if he strongly believe rudra only then the nag too not enter in home all alone without certain support from a family member n he know Rudra always behind Shivangi. is that way it's easy to conclude the murders too some what have shivangi hand.? and he trusts no blindly trusts shivangi. and he saw her saving some family members including him. if rudra is the threat to family why that lady oblige him. how she allows the friend who done the miseries to the family with her most of them. n how come NM related for it. as per his view?? 😲 ..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rein123

Rithik attacked shivanya who was at that time in her naagin form who happened to be fleeing from Yamini's or Anky's room because he knew not guessed that it was an ichaadhaari naagin who is targeting his family plus he saw her from the back and recognised her hide later too based on which he made another move fuelled by the continued requests by his fake parents (uncle and aunt)and everyone else who kept blaming an ichaadhari naagin for the deaths in his family, also it was yamini and ankush who instigated and requested him to do the abhimantrit khanjar Pooja which at that time he did not want to do because he didn't believe all this until he caught a snake red handed in his parents bedroom who convinced him was the same naagin behind all the deaths. The point is he only attacked the person he was sure enough to be the naagin targeting his family and not just randomly drawing conclusions without any proof. Which is why when those aghoris were going to kill those snakes who were also ichaadhaari he saved them because he knew they were innocent and didn't deserve it! And Rocky wanted to catch Rudra not kill him? How is that any better from the former? Ultimately he will be killed or used as some guinea pig later on. He is trying to protect his siblings and family is fine but after that alia fiasco did he have any evidence that Rudra or an ichaadhaari snake is behind the problems in the family? Avantika killed him by just taking advantage of the situation created by this person which led to this. Defend him if you want to

Also about Rudra not saving anyone besides Shivaangi and the people dear to her and that his world only revolves around her regarding that what exactly is wrong with that? Plus to do that he needs to come across a situation like that where he can choose to either help or walk away from a complete stranger. However don't expect him to be a saint since he isn't one and if your going to talk about him saving Rocky or walking away from him well its pretty much understood that they both hate/dislike each other so either of them would be reluctant to help the other person. Also the same goes for shivaangi who's world revolves around Rocky to the point where she compromised with the naag Mani's safety.


whatever it is..ritik did attack a snake whether ichadari or not he did attack as he feel it was threat to his family...he was protecting his family...even he distrust shivanya and slap her for the love of his so called father...after knowing shivanya is a naagin...he slap her and throw her out of the house...he get manipulated by yamini even though he loves shivanya...he did stab her...this are ritik flaws...you can ignore it and give reasons but i can't becos i hated all this ritik's scenes...

rocky's flaws...he is dumb...oblivious abt his surrounding...suspicious in nature...half-knowledge...
possessive...believes in what he see and hear...well there is more flaws that can be added...its still a long way...the major one is how will he react when he gets to know shivangi's truth...will he be cruel...understanding or dumb...its yet to be seen...the one is shown...i have mention it

rudra flaws well he doesn't has any since he is not a human...he is in shivangi's mode only well logical...its no flaw...she is his friend and love...only one weird characteristic i see in him...he is cold towards humans and i don't know why...i could see that when he did not want shivangi to save rocky from NM...shivanya...shivangi...sesha(she did fall in love with ritik-rocky)has some feelings for humans...some attractions for humans and they are naagins...he has none of it for humans being a naag...is there a rule for naag and naagins in naaglok...😆...naagins can fall in love with human and naag cold towards human😆

regarding NM...to save a human's life is more important...if it has to be done by naagmani...there is no harm...why should rocky die in such a young age for no fault of his...even if lord shiva appears infront he will ask shivangi to save a human life with his naagmani first...

well its all on perspective...you don't like rocky...thus whatever he does...it will be a beast to you and to others who hates him

I am slightly different...whether ritik...rudra...rocky...i see their positive sides and negative sides w/o being blind...just becos ritik loves shivanya...he is witty...sweet...doesn't mean i ignore his mistake...just becos rocky is dumb and weak...doesn't mean i ignore his positive qualities and tries to find fault in him for the sake of it...just becos rudra is superior...i ignore his minor characteristics...what is fun in watching a character when one see the character in one dimension...one needs to find shades in the character...thats more fun...if rocky does a inhuman act...i will definitely pinpoint it too...

currently rocky is just saving his family as he believes that rudra is a threat to his family...he is the only snake he has seen...though accidents...he has connected dots as per his own knowledge...isn't it obvious ichadari pranis has powers...they can do anything...they can create accidents too by their powers...he connected those dots with rudra being a ichadari naag with powers...now coming to shivangi..she is still human to him...he has been wondering why rudra a naag comes meeting shivangi...he went to PH get to know abt the suryavanshi sign...naagmani...he was confused till he saw the suryavanshi sign on shivangi...he connected dots as per his knowledge that rudra has been meeting shivangi becos she is suryavanshi and wants naagmani...thus to protect her...he made a plan and use shivangi to return the naagmani to its original owner...at home he just want to catch rudra not kill him...he has no intention to kill any naag/naagins...he wants the naag/naagins to stay away from his family...oblivious to the fact that his friend and wife is equally a naagin...looking at his pov he is no wrong...he knows nothing abt rudra becos shivangi is hiding secrets from him...lying to him...

if rudra is caught...its all becos of their genius plan to trap sesha by making a fake deal...what makes them think that sesha will disclose her plans to rudra if the deal is made...don't they know that sesha is shrewd...way more intelligent...instead of trapping her...they got themselves trapped badly...sesha totally screwed up their plan big time and rudra could not stop it...thats how smart she is...she double crossed them...if rudra is caught...trapped...its all becos of their plan...all this would not have happen if the fake deal was not made...it would not have happen if rudra didn't try to trap sesha in the first place w/o knowing her weakness...so why blame rocky..when Drashiv failure plan is the root cause of the whole situation...rocky would not have known rudra is a naag or anything abt naaglok and naagmani if that fake deal was not made and execute in the party
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Posted: 8 years ago
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childhood stories...rocky's parents are killed...from whom he will hear childhood stories of naag/naagins...yamini or uttara...he doesn't know anything abt naaglok...naag/naagins...he doesn't believe in those nonsense as he believes and is shocked when he encounter one by himself...
regarding his first visit to SN temple and trying to take the NM...he is not interested in NM...he was just curious and wants to know the truth...he told SN too...he is not interested in NM...he just wanted to test whether whatever written in the book is true or false...

there is one death after another in his home...its by accident...after witnessing something shocking...of course he will connect dots with it rather than thinking it as an accident...isn't it weird one death after another in the same home...snake bite confirms his knowledge that it has connection with the other deaths too...and since he saw rudra turning into a naag...of course he automatically knows that rudra has powers and can do anything...turn the deaths into an accident...

regarding shivangi...she told him she wants to save their marriage...thus he regrets for suspecting her thus promise to trust her...their relationship back to normal as seen...he have not seen rudra's night visits at his home to think wide...he saw rudra as a naag...what is rudra connection with shivangi...trying to brainstorm...he connect the dots after he saw the suryavanshi sign on shivangi..thats when he thinks rudra is using shivangi for naagmani as per his knowledge

uttara...she took care of him in his childhood...he has been calling her maasi since childhood
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Rocky's family members died & he thinks Rudra killed them. But why it is done selectively? Why not everyone? Did he ever ask himself this question?

Rudra is a naag a powerful ichchadhari naag if he intends he can easily finish off the entire Nikunj family...all at once! But did this happen?


Edited by Cool-n-Fresh - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mages


whatever it is..ritik did attack a snake whether ichadari or not he did attack as he feel it was threat to his family...he was protecting his family...even he distrust shivanya and slap her for the love of his so called father...after knowing shivanya is a naagin...he slap her and throw her out of the house...he get manipulated by yamini even though he loves shivanya...he did stab her...this are ritik flaws...you can ignore it and give reasons but i can't becos i hated all this ritik's scenes...

rocky's flaws...he is dumb...oblivious abt his surrounding...suspicious in nature...half-knowledge...
possessive...believes in what he see and hear...well there is more flaws that can be added...its still a long way...the major one is how will he react when he gets to know shivangi's truth...will he be cruel...understanding or dumb...its yet to be seen...the one is shown...i have mention it

rudra flaws well he doesn't has any since he is not a human...he is in shivangi's mode only well logical...its no flaw...she is his friend and love...only one weird characteristic i see in him...he is cold towards humans and i don't know why...i could see that when he did not want shivangi to save rocky from NM...shivanya...shivangi...sesha(she did fall in love with ritik-rocky)has some feelings for humans...some attractions for humans and they are naagins...he has none of it for humans being a naag...is there a rule for naag and naagins in naaglok...😆...naagins can fall in love with human and naag cold towards human😆

regarding NM...to save a human's life is more important...if it has to be done by naagmani...there is no harm...why should rocky die in such a young age for no fault of his...even if lord shiva appears infront he will ask shivangi to save a human life with his naagmani first...

well its all on perspective...you don't like rocky...thus whatever he does...it will be a beast to you and to others who hates him

I am slightly different...whether ritik...rudra...rocky...i see their positive sides and negative sides w/o being blind...just becos ritik loves shivanya...he is witty...sweet...doesn't mean i ignore his mistake...just becos rocky is dumb and weak...doesn't mean i ignore his positive qualities and tries to find fault in him for the sake of it...just becos rudra is superior...i ignore his minor characteristics...what is fun in watching a character when one see the character in one dimension...one needs to find shades in the character...thats more fun...if rocky does a inhuman act...i will definitely pinpoint it too...

currently rocky is just saving his family as he believes that rudra is a threat to his family...he is the only snake he has seen...though accidents...he has connected dots as per his own knowledge...isn't it obvious ichadari pranis has powers...they can do anything...they can create accidents too by their powers...he connected those dots with rudra being a ichadari naag with powers...now coming to shivangi..she is still human to him...he has been wondering why rudra a naag comes meeting shivangi...he went to PH get to know abt the suryavanshi sign...naagmani...he was confused till he saw the suryavanshi sign on shivangi...he connected dots as per his knowledge that rudra has been meeting shivangi becos she is suryavanshi and wants naagmani...thus to protect her...he made a plan and use shivangi to return the naagmani to its original owner...at home he just want to catch rudra not kill him...he has no intention to kill any naag/naagins...he wants the naag/naagins to stay away from his family...oblivious to the fact that his friend and wife is equally a naagin...looking at his pov he is no wrong...he knows nothing abt rudra becos shivangi is hiding secrets from him...lying to him...

if rudra is caught...its all becos of their genius plan to trap sesha by making a fake deal...what makes them think that sesha will disclose her plans to rudra if the deal is made...don't they know that sesha is shrewd...way more intelligent...instead of trapping her...they got themselves trapped badly...sesha totally screwed up their plan big time and rudra could not stop it...thats how smart she is...she double crossed them...if rudra is caught...trapped...its all becos of their plan...all this would not have happen if the fake deal was not made...it would not have happen if rudra didn't try to trap sesha in the first place w/o knowing her weakness...so why blame rocky..when Drashiv failure plan is the root cause of the whole situation...rocky would not have known rudra is a naag or anything abt naaglok and naagmani if that fake deal was not made and execute in the party

Rithik attacked a snake after being pleaded by his fake parents! And he didn't do it just like that he caught the snake red handed and then believed it to be a threat! Difference is he knew that a snake was behind all this from the beginning and then his mother yamini kept feeding ichaadhari naagin stuff in his head too which he didn't believe at first till he saw it with his own eyes with a proper confirmation. Moreover he didnt reach that conclusion just like that he had evidence that it was a snake only thing is he didn't know it was shivanya! Also Rithik never slapped Shivanya for being a naagin in fact the day he found out he couldn't believe it and only kept quite because Yamini asked him to do so! Also on the day when Shivanya was stabbed in it may have been him but he hesitated to kill her even then because he didn't want to believe that shivanya is the murderer and it was Yamini who forcefully held his hand and made Rithik stab shivanya from what I remember!

About why Rudra is cold towards humans is pretty understood! His wife was killed by a human and its pretty much a good reason for him to resent them but he never hurt any of them unprovoked till date! About Rudra's flaws well he does have them he is not perfect either its just that he manages them well as compared to Rocky! If your going to say he is flawless because he is a naag and not human then shouldn't shesha and Shivanya have been equally flawless?
Also you said something about Rocky connecting the dots which all pointed to Rudra being a danger to his family and naag Mani which he never explained how let me ask he had many opportunities in the past to connect the dots and learn the reality
1) when shivaangi's family was massacred and he was knocked out in front of his own family members why did he not connect the dots there by questioning who knocked him out in the wedding?
2) He could have investigated the massacre that took place in his wedding and actively tracked the culprits to connect the dots why did he not bother to do all that till date?
3) He found a kenchuli in shivaangi's jewellery box but never bothered to find out what it was doing there in the first place or make a connection there he just threw it out
4) he saw sangram Singh's picture in panchner haveli who is shivaangi's grandfather and resembles rithik but never bothered to connect the dots there by trying figure out that relationship with his badi maa who owns the haveli to get the actual clear picture?
5) He knows Rudra is naag, found a kenchuli in shivaangi's jewellery box and also knows that Rudra and Shivaangi are friends and are working together when he saw them talking outside the panchner haveli and he is aware that DraShiv visit each other, so why is he selectively only pointing fingers at Rudra? Why doesn't he connect thee dots and wonder if shivaangi knows about Rudra's secret which she does by recalling the kenchuli?
How is it that he only connects the dots when it has something to do with Rudra? Sound like bias to me.
Also you are saying the drashiv plan is why Rudra got trapped well sorry to say but no! Rocky discovering Rudra's identity was unforseen moreover it was a calculated risk too where something was bound to go wrong which they had to do in order to progress with their revenge plan however the only thing that went wrong there was Rudra getting exposed in front of Rocky which was anyways bound to happen some day! The remaining was Rocky and his half assed deductions based on half knowledge making him take those steps.
You want to blame the CVS here you are welcomed but so can I over why Shivaangi and Rocky got married to get her revenge when she could have done the same without marrying him, or why she hasn't told him the truth etc. otherwise its a character flaw only.
Edited by Rein123 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rein123

Rithik attacked a snake after being pleaded by his fake parents! And he didn't do it just like that he caught the snake red handed and then believed it to be a threat! Difference is he knew that a snake was behind all this from the beginning and then his mother yamini kept feeding ichaadhari naagin stuff in his head too which he didn't believe at first till he saw it with his own eyes with a proper confirmation. Moreover he didnt reach that conclusion just like that he had evidence that it was a snake only thing is he didn't know it was shivanya! Also Rithik never slapped Shivanya for being a naagin in fact the day he found out he couldn't believe it and only kept quite because Yamini asked him to do so! Also on the day when Shivanya was stabbed in it may have been him but he hesitated to kill her even then because he didn't want to believe that shivanya is the murderer and it was Yamini who forcefully held his hand and made Rithik stab shivanya from what I remember!

About why Rudra is cold towards humans is pretty understood! His wife was killed by a human and its pretty much a good reason for him to resent them but he never hurt any of them unprovoked till date! About Rudra's flaws well he does have them he is not perfect either its just that he manages them well as compared to Rocky! If your going to say he is flawless because he is a naag and not human then shouldn't shesha and Shivanya have been equally flawless?
Also you said something about Rocky connecting the dots which all pointed to Rudra being a danger to his family and naag Mani which he never explained how let me ask he had many opportunities in the past to connect the dots and learn the reality
1) when shivaangi's family was massacred and he was knocked out in front of his own family members why did he not connect the dots there by questioning who knocked him out in the wedding?
2) He could have investigated the massacre that took place in his wedding and actively tracked the culprits to connect the dots why did he not bother to do all that till date?
3) He found a kenchuli in shivaangi's jewellery box but never bothered to find out what it was doing there in the first place or make a connection there he just threw it out
4) he saw sangram Singh's picture in panchner haveli who is shivaangi's grandfather and resembles rithik but never bothered to connect the dots there by trying figure out that relationship with his badi maa who owns the haveli to get the actual clear picture?
5) He knows Rudra is naag, found a kenchuli in shivaangi's jewellery box and also knows that Rudra and Shivaangi are friends and are working together when he saw them talking outside the panchner haveli and he is aware that DraShiv visit each other, so why is he selectively only pointing fingers at Rudra? Why doesn't he connect thee dots and wonder if shivaangi knows about Rudra's secret which she does by recalling the kenchuli?
How is it that he only connects the dots when it has something to do with Rudra? Sound like bias to me.
Also you are saying the drashiv plan is why Rudra got trapped well sorry to say but no! Rocky discovering Rudra's identity was unforseen moreover it was a calculated risk too where something was bound to go wrong which they had to do in order to progress with their revenge plan however the only thing that went wrong there was Rudra getting exposed in front of Rocky which was anyways bound to happen some day! The remaining was Rocky and his half assed deductions based on half knowledge making him take those steps.
You want to blame the CVS here you are welcomed but so can I over why Shivaangi and Rocky got married to get her revenge when she could have done the same without marrying him, or why she hasn't told him the truth etc. otherwise its a character flaw only.


👏👏. Such patience Rein. Something I sorely lack when people defend that good for nothing Rocky. 😆 I am reading all this defense and it's so amusing. It's funny when Drashiv or Shivangi or Rudra make mistake it's their characters fault but when patthar makes mistakes, it's CV's and writers fault. Ah the hypocrisy. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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👏👏. Such patience Rein. Something I sorely lack when people defend that good for nothing Rocky. 😆 I am reading all this defense and it's so amusing. It's funny when Drashiv or Shivangi or Rudra make mistake it's their characters fault but when patthar makes mistakes, it's CV's and writers fault. Ah the hypocrisy. 😆

claps for Rein 👏 👏 👏 thumbs up for Tia 👍🏼 close up smile for me 😃 .
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Originally posted by: Cool-n-Fresh





<font size="2">Rocky's family members died & he thinks Rudra killed them. But why it is done selectively? Why not everyone? Did he ever ask himself this question?</font>

<font size="2">Rudra is a naag a powerful ichchadhari naag if he intends he can easily finish off the entire Nikunj family...all at once! But did this happen?</font>



OK he wants to capture the only one he know that is Rudra ic nag. but is rudra doing or taking it all alone that by capturing him alone will get rid off problem??. he seen Ru too always with phone n ru uses phone for shivangi and some others too can conclude from the engagement fake call. ..

so it would be obvious that after witnessing all those arrangements rudra too contact his supporters like antisapera gang to stop beens like aghoris or anyone who can enter trough the bhel leaves. ..

in that case rudra made arrangements to destroy entire house .then how Rocky counteract to save the situation.
???

he is so much attached n worship his bhadima. if he asks or claims all his doubts n plans to her before implementation..
. as a experienced old lady will guide him better for the situation and she too support in this capturing process. but why can't he shared the all info he got to his bhadima. ???

it's not at all make any health hazard for her...
just a normal. innocent.human being way why not Rocky projected like this??

if they Roshiv pair taken that NM with them to house. by that help they may get rid off those unknown or unwanted problems ,as he don't know other ic creatures too staying in home...

,as per book he read NM do anything so before placing in that cave why the last time it used to solve all the problems he thinking that happening house...
???

in his way by that action is ic nag Ru is more provoked for NM out of place.?.. and In that anger it's possible to destroy his entire family too not only shivangi.. ..

no way his actions or his involvement. his thoughts give clue to audience that he is a real innocent human being who surrounded with unknown creatures..

so obviously it's CVS fault only. they lack knowledge to project a normal faulty human being in convincing way... CVS work more on humans too please 😉 ...

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