happy for ammaji - Page 3

Originally posted by: myviewprem

I think i disagree. Very good humans and parents can also have very bad children. It all depends on your friends circle(classmates, colleagues, family friends, cousins, distant relatives with whom you have friendship) apart from immediate family whether you become bad or good as you grow up. The friends circle can instigate you to do bad things just to remain in their group. That is where youngsters learn to smoke, drink, take drugs, bunk school and college etc-it is the friend circle especially after the age of 13-14 till 30-35 which influence a person more than family. Very few people remain true to family values in this age and are influenced by friends circle. I trully appreciate such people who do not succumb to peer and friends circle pressure.

parents may be good human beings.but that doesnt mean they are good parents.if the family values are right n the upbringing is right,the person will very rarely become evil.even if he does something wrong he will eventually correct himself and come on the right path.as far as gajji is concerned i don see where peer pressure comes into picture!he seems to be home all the time and the only influence happens to be his family!

@harsha i came 2 know after ur clarification abt gajji dat u don't want 2 send him 2 jail as u believe in improvement of criminals. and me 2 believe dat 1 shud give 2nd chance 2 but it all depends on the prsn's basic nature & gajji surely is not among dem👎🏼.

Originally posted by: tiny15

@harsha i came 2 know after ur clarification abt gajji dat u don't want 2 send him 2 jail as u believe in improvement of criminals. and me 2 believe dat 1 shud give 2nd chance 2 but it all depends on the prsn's basic nature & gajji surely is not among dem👎🏼.

now tell me dear if sum1 rapes a gal & murder her or simply rapes her & left her den wat"ll b the rxn of her family left behind or her rxn in 2nd case??? shud she or her family 4give him??😕😕

its not so in real life 2.u've asked me dat we may discuss abt these reel ckts & in real life its not possible but i know wats rite & wats wrong so atleast my conscious won't allow me 2 side wid da rapist or criminal even if hes my near & dear.though i may feel bad 4 him 2.

and if all criminals r 2 b 4given or given 2nd chance den 2 only 5% of dem truly repent & improve.bcoz every criminal can't follow the path of "angulimaal".

and den why all r fighting 4 ruchika, priyadarshini,jessica or 4 that teenage gal 4 whose rape & murder dhanajay got hanging???

yes i agree with your point of view.as i have already written before the problem here is not gajji,its ammaji.she has failed as a mother.if u saw tonite s episode u would have seen chanda telling raghav about the conversation that took place with ammaji and how chachi adviced her to lie in court to save her child.chachi said the same thing too.gunja is dead,v cannot bring her back even if gajji is hanged.the whole point is that by sending a criminal to jail will not bring back the dead.what is the gaurantee that he will reform himself after he is sent to jail?no person is bad.its just that they have been mis lead and they need help to correct themselves.for a person like gajji,sending him to jail will only worsen things.he s only goin to become more aggressive and probably worse.see,v all know that gajji is not bad in this way.ya,he is bad in his own way but till date he has never mis behaved with any of the other ladies/maids of the house.he has to be punished for his crime,no doubt but sending gajji to jail will not solve the problem.as i have said earlir,by sensing gajji to jail his wife and son are goin to face a lot of problem even when they have nothing to do with the crime.all i am saying is that if punishment is the only way to correct a person,there are loads of other ways of doing it besides sending him jail.if u ask my opion,chucking him out of the house and removing him from the will is a far better punishment than sending him to jail.this way,only he ll be effected by his crime and not his family.

Originally posted by: harshajkarthik

yes i agree with your point of view.as i have already written before the problem here is not gajji,its ammaji.she has failed as a mother.if u saw tonite s episode u would have seen chanda telling raghav about the conversation that took place with ammaji and how chachi adviced her to lie in court to save her child.chachi said the same thing too.gunja is dead,v cannot bring her back even if gajji is hanged.the whole point is that by sending a criminal to jail will not bring back the dead.what is the gaurantee that he will reform himself after he is sent to jail?no person is bad.its just that they have been mis lead and they need help to correct themselves.for a person like gajji,sending him to jail will only worsen things.he s only goin to become more aggressive and probably worse.see,v all know that gajji is not bad in this way.ya,he is bad in his own way but till date he has never mis behaved with any of the other ladies/maids of the house.he has to be punished for his crime,no doubt but sending gajji to jail will not solve the problem.as i have said earlir,by sensing gajji to jail his wife and son are goin to face a lot of problem even when they have nothing to do with the crime.all i am saying is that if punishment is the only way to correct a person,there are loads of other ways of doing it besides sending him jail.if u ask my opion,chucking him out of the house and removing him from the will is a far better punishment than sending him to jail.this way,only he ll be effected by his crime and not his family.

PS-btw after tonite s episode i think this gajji-gunja case is goin to closed!they ll now show sia standing against ammaji in the elections and gunja is goin to be forgotten!knowing the cv s of laado i ll bet that ammaji ll win the elections too!duh!

no doubt gajji never misbehaved earlier wid oder ladies but it doesn't mean he shudn't b punished. and its also true dat here ammaji has failed but in her thinking she has given dem wat she thinks is right. and gajji is basically an evil as he already tried 2 kill his mother 4 da sake 4 money & power & taunted his gud 4 nothing bro i.e jogi 2 save his neck. so i don't think he deserves the punishment of chucking out of the house & will only👎🏼👎🏼.

Originally posted by: tiny15

no doubt gajji never misbehaved earlier wid oder ladies but it doesn't mean he shudn't b punished. and its also true dat here ammaji has failed but in her thinking she has given dem wat she thinks is right. and gajji is basically an evil as he already tried 2 kill his mother 4 da sake 4 money & power & taunted his gud 4 nothing bro i.e jogi 2 save his neck. so i don't think he deserves the punishment of chucking out of the house & will only👎🏼👎🏼.

u may say criminals shudn't sent 2 jail but dear in reality 2 its not possible.bcoz wen terrorists bombed ppl den why ppl start protesting & saying govt. shud give dem capital punishment. so i don't think ur type of punishment is gud as i'd earlier written dat it only depends on da prsn's basic nature.if his family is concerned den he shud've thought abt it &his family is not going 2 b orphaned as so many ppl there 2 give dem support & if FF gang take charge his son"ll get gud sanskars 2.

but wat abt victims family??vaise agar reality mein aisa hoh toh aap usske family ko support kar sakte hain but not let da criminal go scot free as he'd also ruined a family.in dis case gunja's BF though hes mow sold himself but still hes feeling bad. and if sum1 has no family den it doesn't mean he/she has no right 4 justice.

i dont know about terrorists i m only talking about gajji here.as i said he is not good but he is not this type bad!i m only talking about "punishment"to this act of his.i dont know about his previous acts.as far as bringing up aditya is concerned the ff ll do a better job than him or sunheri but wt ll he tell the world?that his father is in jail because he tried to rape a girl at gun pt?that ll ruin the child ' future.as far as justice for gunja s family is concerned how is sending gajji to jail goin to help?the act is already done and even if gajji is hanged,she is not goin to be back..so wt justice are u talking about? agreed,she was young full of life and she dint deserve to die[now m not saying if a person is old and dull they deserve to die!]what sense does it make to ruin the life of the alive to avenge the dead??whatever u do to the convict the victim is not goin to come back.the only solution is to ensure that this does not happen and this can be done only by making gajji realize that what he did is wrong.

dear i think u'ven't heard karma theory acc. 2 dat if u harm sum1 den u r 2 b harmed. u r again trying 2 defend his ckt.plz don't do dis as i'd seen or heard such cases where they did like u r doing & god made dem realise by placing dem in such situations.

Originally posted by: tiny15

dear i think u'ven't heard karma theory acc. 2 dat if u harm sum1 den u r 2 b harmed. u r again trying 2 defend his ckt.plz don't do dis as i'd seen or heard such cases where they did like u r doing & god made dem realise by placing dem in such situations.

u r so concerned abt gajji's son but not feeling a bit of giving justice 2 the dead. have u ever heard ppl say wen sum1 die how much he/she was bad but ppl don't disgrace dem.just 4 da sake of criminals children u r denying justice 2 da victims.

and u don't want 2 send gajji 2 jail?? i m so shocked 😲.😲wat he did is not justifiable & needs a severe punishment. u want 2 raise ur children & build homes on oder's death & grave den even god won't 4 give such prsn.and if gajji remains unpunished den wat sanskars he"ll give 2 his son & if his son is wise enough den he "ll realize his ftaher's sins & gud enough dat ppl won't say anything 2 him.

and wat gud it"ll do if he realizes it now as victim won't cum back. atleast by sending gajji 2 jail ppl"ll start having faith in justice.and if u want gajji not 2 go jail den u shud also defend manu sharma, sanjay & rathor as their crimes were also 4 ist time.plz try 2 say dis if u were in place of these gals or try 2 place urself in gunja's place( though god 4bid it 2 happen 2 u)

Originally posted by: tiny15

dear i think u'ven't heard karma theory acc. 2 dat if u harm sum1 den u r 2 b harmed. u r again trying 2 defend his ckt.plz don't do dis as i'd seen or heard such cases where they did like u r doing & god made dem realise by placing dem in such situations.

u r so concerned abt gajji's son but not feeling a bit of giving justice 2 the dead. have u ever heard ppl say wen sum1 die how much he/she was bad but ppl don't disgrace dem.just 4 da sake of criminals children u r denying justice 2 da victims.

and u don't want 2 send gajji 2 jail?? i m so shocked 😲.😲wat he did is not justifiable & needs a severe punishment. u want 2 raise ur children & build homes on oder's death & grave den even god won't 4 give such prsn.and if gajji remains unpunished den wat sanskars he"ll give 2 his son & if his son is wise enough den he "ll realize his ftaher's sins & gud enough dat ppl won't say anything 2 him.

and wat gud it"ll do if he realizes it now as victim won't cum back. atleast by sending gajji 2 jail ppl"ll start having faith in justice.and if u want gajji not 2 go jail den u shud also defend manu sharma, sanjay & rathor as their crimes were also 4 ist time.plz try 2 say dis if u were in place of these gals or try 2 place urself in gunja's place( though god 4bid it 2 happen 2 u)

as far as karma and god and spirituality are concerned,such topics are better left untouched.each one s opion on such thingas vary.as far as tit for tat is concerned if gajji deserves to be punished,as per your karma theory,god ll see to it that he is!

frankly i find this gajender-gunja case highly funny.i mean when gajender has commited far graver crimes like attempted murder of his mother attempted murder of his sister and god alone knows how many other murders, because i havnt been keepin track of of criminal record,why is that the cv s did not punish him for those crimes but they want to punish him now??!!

Originally posted by: harshajkarthik

frankly i find this gajender-gunja case highly funny.i mean when gajender has commited far graver crimes like attempted murder of his mother attempted murder of his sister and god alone knows how many other murders, because i havnt been keepin track of of criminal record,why is that the cv s did not punish him for those crimes but they want to punish him now??!!

if sia s main aim is to give justice and to stand for humanity and truth always,as she puts it,can some1 please tell me why she did not stand up for justice when:-

1)joginder keeps abusing santosh.why is it that sia has never thought of complaining to the women's rights commision?

2)when sunitha was murdered,why did she not send ammaji and her sons to jail?

3)when the police had come home to arrest amba,why is it that she did not hand over amba to the police?

4)even after raghav came home,why did she not have amba arrested?for after all whatever may be the reason ,she was a dacoit and the police are searching for her.

5)why did she not punish gajji and jogi for the attempted murder of amba?

6)when amba was sent from the havelli and when she did not get the right of being the daughter of the havelli,why did she not fight then?

7)when ammaji prevented her from setting up a school the first time,why did she not appeal to the government?

8)a few episodes back when ammaji was celebrating the return of gajji from jail and she had thrown a party in the house,jhumar was serving every1 at the table when the whole family including the ladies of the house were sitting at the table for dinner.why?isnt jhumar a part of the family?why dint sia fight for her right then?

i m sure if i think i ll be able to extend the list by another 10 or 15.what is it with sia?when she feels like fighting she will and when she doesnt,she goes into sleeping mode or what?if she were so for justice by now,every one in the house and probably every one in the village including herself and that darling husband of hers will be in jail for atleast another decade!