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Posted: 15 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: SAM2U



I very frankly admit that my pov is biased for Shan-strikers and there is nothing wrong with that. The very reason for supporting this team was its strength, capability and consistancy, Shaan himself, Debo and off course Anwesha. Anwesha left such an impression during CU days that I always wished for her that one day she gets a chance to showcase her talent on a bigger platform, in front of the music industry leaders, huge audience, competing with renowned and senior reality show singers. She not only got all of the above but got this life time opportunity to actually had Shankar ji competing against her.

Though She won the best singer award and deserving too, but she was not at her best @ MKMM, she performed like a maestro during CU days where every single rendition by her was a masterpiece.

Nonetheless she was mostly consistent and much better then any other participant of MKMM. By denying the finale to her team, this kid has left yet another opportunity for producers like Gajji to lure her into participating in yet another fake reality show in an effort to finally wining the title.

This kind of exploitation of this young talent is naive and will hurt her in the long run. My sincere request to Anwesha is to stay away from these reality shows. She should continue her education and continue learning sangeet from her guru ji who helped her achieve great heights during CU and continue her riyyazz. She should wait for the right opportunity. Her talent and hard work will surly shine. She is destined to become one of the greats if she doesn't fell victim to this short lived fame and money offering fake shows.

Sorry for digressing from this debate. The post topic is meant only for Shaan supporters to express the very reasons why we think Shaan is the winner of this reality show. let me try one last time again.!


@Someone's your post is somewhat biased towards Shankar sorry. The notion that its balanced and un-biased is unfounded.

I would have excepted the other teams victory only and only if fairness was sufficiently evident.

In fact finale title was snatched from the deserving team much before the finale. This so called pre-finale was rigged by Shankar ji himself, by bringing JA on board, much to the surprise of Gajji who himself is the biggest manipulator of situations and scripts. (this is an insider tip). Only four neutral maha judges were to originally grace the pre-finale, Alka Ji, Jatin-Lalit duo and Ismail Darbar in place of Himesh, Shreya, Mohit and Mika.

This is was what Gajji needed to spice up the show. Shankar Ji and JA are working hand and gloves on six new projects together these days.
This affiliation and bias was enough for JA to utter words like "lowest common denominator of entertainment" justifying his 5 out of 10 points for Shaan's medley. A huge and glaring disparity of points compared to other four judges which could not be ignored.

This was the moment of decision of the final outcome of MKMM winner, and that too, much before the finale was actually aired, JA helped Shankar ji with that one precious wining point for this pre-finale which made all the difference in the end, Regardless of the huge public votes to shan or his defeat in the grand finale.

If this wasn't enough the last minute decision to pre-record all performance and even play original renditions in some cases to be lip synced, during finale, made such a mockery of the live show. On top of that audience voting was another fake drama.

I admire and respect Shanker ji a lot for his work, but trying to unfairly win at any cost, reflected badly on their win in the end. I do not know who to blame Shankerji, J.A. or the mastermind GAJII JI.???

In this forum there are people who posts spoilers and have direct inside contacts and knows much more about what actually goes on behind the scenes, but can't post much as the affiliates and frineds and everyone associated with this kind of production are bound by complex legal contacts.



You are right but I wud disagree on blaming Shankar. Shankar had a weaker team only Rahul was good. One point I want to raise here is that if same team that Shaan had was swaped with that of Shankar then shankar wud not have come to sing against any contestant for sure.. Anwesa was too good, Debo was wonderful, Harshit, Shadab excellent.. Had shankar got this team no one could beat shankar because he didnt have to worry about loosing But again I think Shaan wudnt have come to sing against Anwesa or Debo he would have sent Rahul or Sanjeev against them. Shankar is very talented but I think he took this show little more seriously as he has his reputation in industry and he wants to keep up to his reputation. But Shaan and Shankar can't be compared.. Musically they are of equal talent but as a human being Shaan perhaps has an edge.
According to me Apart from Anwesa, singers who impressed a lot in this show were Rahman (great voice), Debo (wonderful duets), Abhas, Rahul, Shadab. Singers who disappointed were Vineet, Toshi, Hemachandra, Aneek.


Edited by budhiya23 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: SAM2U



I very frankly admit that my pov is biased for Shan-strikers and there is nothing wrong with that. The very reason for supporting this team was its strength, capability and consistancy, Shaan himself, Debo and off course Anwesha. Anwesha left such an impression during CU days that I always wished for her that one day she gets a chance to showcase her talent on a bigger platform, in front of the music industry leaders, huge audience, competing with renowned and senior reality show singers. She not only got all of the above but got this life time opportunity to actually had Shankar ji competing against her. My wish fulfilled but now I wish this is the last reality show that she had participated. She doesn't need these shows....

Though She won the best singer award and deserving too, but she was not at her best @ MKMM due to participation in too many shows one after the other, she performed like a maestro during CU days where every single rendition by her was a masterpiece.

Nonetheless she was mostly consistent and much better then any other participant of MKMM. By denying the finale to her team, this kid has left yet another opportunity for producers like Gajji to lure her into participating in yet another fake reality show in an effort to finally wining the title. Anwesha and her parents must concentrate on the bigger picture and she should stay away from

This kind of exploitation of this young talent is naive and will hurt her in the long run. My sincere request to Anwesha is to stay away from these reality shows. She should continue her education and continue learning sangeet from her guru ji who helped her achieve great heights during CU and continue her riyyazz. She should wait for the right opportunity. Her talent and hard work will surly shine. She is destined to become one of the greats if she doesn't fell victim to this short lived fame and money offering fake shows.

Sorry for digressing from this debate. The post topic is meant only for Shaan supporters to express the very reasons why we think Shaan is the winner of this reality show. let me try one last time again.!


@Someone your post is somewhat biased towards Shankar, sorry. The notion that its balanced and un-biased is unfounded.

I would have excepted the other teams victory only and only if fairness was sufficiently evident.

In fact finale title was snatched from the deserving team much before the finale. This so called pre-finale was rigged by Shankar ji himself, by bringing JA on board, much to the surprise of Gajji who himself is the biggest manipulator of situations and scripts. (this is an insider tip). Only four neutral maha judges were to originally grace the pre-finale, Alka Ji, Jatin-Lalit duo and Ismail Darbar in place of Himesh, Shreya, Mohit and Mika.

This is was what Gajji needed to spice up the show. Shankar Ji and JA are working hand and gloves on six new projects together these days.
This affiliation and bias was enough for JA to utter words like "lowest common denominator of entertainment" justifying his 5 out of 10 points for Shaan's medley. A huge and glaring disparity of points compared to other four judges which could not be ignored.

This was the moment of decision of the final outcome of MKMM winner, and that too, much before the finale was actually aired, JA helped Shankar ji with that one precious wining point for this pre-finale which made all the difference in the end, Regardless of the huge public votes to shan or his defeat in the grand finale.

If this wasn't enough the last minute decision to pre-record all performances and even play original renditions in some cases to be lip synced, during finale, made such a mockery of the live event. On top of that audience voting was another fake drama voting on this lip-synced dance show.

I admire and respect Shanker ji a lot for his work, but trying to unfairly win at any cost, reflected badly on their win in the end. I do not know who to blame Shankerji, J.A. or the mastermind GAJII JI.???

In this forum there are people who posts spoilers etc. and have direct inside contacts and knows much more about what actually goes on behind the scenes, but can't post much as the affiliates and frineds and everyone associated with this kind of production are bound by complex legal contracts.


I usually dont post in non-controversial topics, but all I want to say is that I am really impressed with this post! This is a totally neutral & unbiased post! Hope people got the message. Keep up the good work SAM2U!👍🏼
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Posted: 15 years ago
#43
@ SAM2U..

So, you mean to say that all is dirty except Shaan?.. Frankly, i would like to say that i do not believe that these such high-class great singers of India would have agreed for a scripted show. I have immense respect for all of them. I am a huge fan of Shreya, Shaan, Shankar and Mohit. I would have been more than happy if any of them had won.

You did not need to add Anwesha here, it is absurd to say that just for one singer the whole team should have won the finale.

Regarding the decision of marking. Why doesn't anyone talk about the GOOD marks that Javed Saab gave to Debo, Anwesha and Harshit? He was not biased. He gave worse marks to Shankar's team. Okay, fine if you say that Javed Saab has been strict in marking the medley for Shaan's Strikers, agreed. But, the 10 marks from the rest of the judges was also too much leniency too. So, actually, Javed Saab's marks counter-balance the 10s. So, the marks are actually quite correct. Shaan himself said that he was not expecting more than 41, yet he got greater marks than that.

Shankar ji is a great legend for me, i can not stand those who ruthlessly state things against such a talented man. For me, i can never ever think that He has done any kind of manipulation. Neither i think that Shaan has done any manipulation. Both captains played a fair game. This show was not a grooming show for budding singers, all these reality show singers have proved themselves already, it was played in the spirit of competition for which any strategy employed within the jurisdiction of the rules is perfectly fine and fair. We should admire the humility of this man who comes up every time for his team regardless of how many marks others would give him. From the very first day, he told his team that he will sing as much songs in the show as a member would sing for his team. Have to see things in a positive manner rather than make them an issue of life and death.

If you have to blame anyone, blame the MKMM system because they are the ones who created the rules, from the day one, the teams were clearly told that the captain can come any time he wants.

I am a great admirer of Shaan and Shankar for me both were winners already. It doesn't really matter that who won, reaching up to this stage of the grand finale was in itself an achievement. I am happy for both the teams and am an ardent fan of Anwesha and Rahul.

Don't want to argue further. Let Bygones be Bygones. Thanks.
Edited by somone999 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: susm8


I usually dont post in non-controversial topics, but all I want to say is that I am really impressed with this post! This is a totally neutral & unbiased post! Hope people got the message. Keep up the good work SAM2U!👍🏼

Susm8 U r such a PAIN! You r an "INSECURED SHAANFANATIC''! In this forum u r the only person who tries to spread haterate! Stop it & you have no right to make mokery of what others are posting!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shreyacool

Susm8 U r such a PAIN! You r an "INSECURED SHAANFANATIC''! In this forum u r the only person who tries to spread haterate! Stop it & you have no right to make mokery of what others are posting!



Thats hatred!! Spelling correction. I dont want to post again and again why you think I am insecured😉. And what mokery I did yaar? I just appreciated an unbiased and neutral post just like you did. I think you are insecured of finding Shankar and his team being picked so badly by so many people here which you personally dont like. Ok does dat sound spreading hatred to anyone? hehe.. enjoy dont think much..
The problem here is that when people starts being honest and express themselves honestly than diplomatically you think they are insecured and fanatic!! Strange but truth is that I am neither fanatic nor insecured I am just an honest fan fearless of telling the truth. Truth is bitter I knw thats why some guys are unable to digest me.

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Posted: 15 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: susm8



Thats hatred!! Spelling correction. I dont want to post again and again why you think I am insecured😉. And what mokery I did yaar? I just appreciated an unbiased and neutral post just like you did. I think you are insecured of finding Shankar and his team being picked so badly by so many people here which you personally dont like. Ok does dat sound spreading hatred to anyone? hehe.. enjoy dont think much..
The problem here is that when people starts being honest and express themselves honestly than diplomatically you think they are insecured and fanatic!! Strange but truth is that I am neither fanatic nor insecured I am just an honest fan fearless of telling the truth. Truth is bitter I knw thats why some guys are unable to digest me.

If thats the case then why dont you have a healthy discussion like the other shaan fans like navneeta, bambooshot, xobile do, they never speak unhealthy nor do they make mokery of other members in the forum, u r the only one, u always exaggerate things! I never said dont express your views, but dont make this forum a battleground! And I am not a Shankar supporter my fav was shreyas team, so i dont have any personal feeling for shankar.
And the last thing I want to tell you is:Truth is bitter I knw thats why some guys are unable to digest me." You are still not able to digest the truth that "Shankar Won" , common susm8 Get Over it, & plz have healthy discussions!
Edited by Shreyacool - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: Shreyacool

If thats the case then why dont you have a healthy discussion like the other shaan fans like navneeta, bambooshot, xobile do, they never speak unhealthy nor do they make mokery of other members in the forum, u r the only one, u always exaggerate things! I never said dont express your views, but dont make this forum a battleground! And I am not a Shankar supporter my fav was shreyas team, so i dont have any personal feeling for shankar.
And the last thing I want to tell you is:Truth is bitter I knw thats why some guys are unable to digest me." You are still not able to digest the truth that "Shankar Won" , common susm8 Get Over it, & plz have healthy discussions!



Well you are right that way.. But I was just having fun as flaming is one of my hobby.. I am an experienced flamer and I can spoil blogs and entice people to go mad.. I wanted to see how 'someone' or 'slumdog' can justify Shankar's win as it was unfair to Shaan (You cant deny this pls dont debate again over this).. I always accepted Shankar won but the pain shaan da took was not somethign he deserved and I cudnt tolerate that.. !! Actually Shaan and Shankar both are victims of this Show which was a scripted plotted Film (drama).. Shaan was like a hero who lost at the end and Shankar unfortunately made a villain in gajji's film who wins and this is how controversy started and TRP gained for the show.. Apologies to Musicdad, Slumdog, Someone999!! Sorry guys dont take it personally I was just flaming.. You spoiled your own threads.. I just enticed you guys to do that.. hehe.. enjoy.. Shankar Rocks but perhaps his team doesnt.. So does Shaan dada..
Edited by susm8 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#48
Shaan is not a real winner. He is loser. He lost to deserved winner Shanker.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#49
@SUsm I m laughing out loud reading on your comments. You seriously think tht you flamed me out . LOL....Infact I was having fun with making you to post your way. I told you I hardly care who won or who lose. So tht was not my thread. I stopped postin only coz I got three PM request not to spoil the thread. Anyway you tried your best but you are still novice in this game. Practice makes one perfect and I m sure with hard work you can acheive your goal of flaming.Carry on bachche 😎
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: hikamosa

Shaan is not a real winner. He is loser. He lost to deserved winner Shanker.



Thank you for your post in this thread. Read the entire thread to understand why this topic was posted here.
Edited by SAM2U - 15 years ago

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