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Posted: 15 years ago
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Great choice for Wild card round. Universal and elite singer Himmesh is a good choice.
Edited by slumdog - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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First of all risingabove...

good song selection. But its good you didn't throw Himesh's best. I have good songs to recommend and we'll save the best of Himesh for the final rounds.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: xobile

For those people who are giving this singing more than 5 marks, I would like to know what you consider 'average bollywood singing'. Remember, 5 is average BOLLYWOOD singing, not just the average of the general public.

By giving this more than 5, you are essentially saying that more than 50% of Bollywood singing is even worse than this. So please could you tell me what those more than 50% of songs are...



xobile, the reason you think this is below average is that you are a hater. Everyone thinks this is at least above average. You just never see the passion and talent behind Himesh's voice. I don't know how you can disrespect a legend like Himesh like this.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: slumdog

Great choice for Wild card round. Universal and elite singer Himmesh is a good choice.


I agree

This was super,fantastic,outstanding,mind blowing,history!


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ssk13809



xobile, the reason you think this is below average is that you are a hater. Everyone thinks this is at least above average. You just never see the passion and talent behind Himesh's voice. I don't know how you can disrespect a legend like Himesh like this.



What do you mean by hater? That I don't give him credit where he deserves it? Well, I gave him credit for his music direction. I don't think he was above average in this song, even in terms of passion his expressions felt forced and fake to me.

Anyway, expression and passion come into a SONG after the SINGING has been taken care of. If the singing is not up to the mark, then expression and passion are useless. To get good marks from me for expression, the singer should just sing the tune and add the correct expression. BUT if you can't carry the tune properly and have expression/passion, then that can't be called good singing! Even Aamir did a great job expressing his emotions in 'E Kya Bolti Tu' but he didn't sing the tune well so that is still bad singing.

The above paragraph was just academic because Himesh's expression wasn't good either - it seemed forced to me. BUT even if you think he sounded convincing, you can't give him marks for that unless he has sung the tune properly.

Prove to me that there are 50%+ Bollywood songs that are worse sung than this (and you can't use any of Himesh's own songs!). And I mean singing, i.e. carrying off the tune!

And all the voters out there in the audience: feel free to give this performance a below average score, I am sure risingabove will take it into account! Giving 3's to Shankar Mahadevan is unreasonable, but this singing REASONABLY deserves low scores.
Edited by xobile - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: xobile



What do you mean by hater? That I don't give him credit where he deserves it? Well, I gave him credit for his music direction. I don't think he was above average in this song, even in terms of passion his expressions felt forced and fake to me.

Anyway, expression and passion come into a SONG after the SINGING has been taken care of. If the singing is not up to the mark, then expression and passion are useless. To get good marks from me for expression, the singer should just sing the tune and add the correct expression. BUT if you can't carry the tune properly and have expression/passion, then that can't be called good singing! Even Aamir did a great job expressing his emotions in 'E Kya Bolti Tu' but he didn't sing the tune well so that is still bad singing.

The above paragraph was just academic because Himesh's expression wasn't good either - it seemed forced to me. BUT even if you think he sounded convincing, you can't give him marks for that unless he has sung the tune properly.

Prove to me that there are 50%+ Bollywood songs that are worse sung than this (and you can't use any of Himesh's own songs!). And I mean singing, i.e. carrying off the tune!



First of all, I'd like to point out this is a very difficult song to sing. It's not a simple tune at all. From it requires passion at times, force, and then at others softness and some high pitches as well .

Now on to the singing...

Just when the song starts, and we hear Himesh's voice at the beginning "aaaahaa", it feels like we are listening to a legend. He does that sequence very well and it's more difficult than it looks. But legend Himesh Reshammiya makes it look easy. Moving on.

First of all, I'd like to point out that he is also the Music Director of this song Xobile, and is also acting in it. So I think HE knows how much force or expressions should be needed in the singing rather than you. So if you think it's fake, thats just you. Because in reality, it is done perfectly as the music director wanted it to be done and as the actor could handle. Let's just get that across.
His expressions, and passion were perfect for the song, as the Music Director and Actor desired.

So lets go onto when he actually sings


1 N azron mein teri kashish ka aalam,
2 Dil mein hai armaano ki sargam,
3 Jo bhi di hai mere jiya ko jaane jaa,
4 Tere ishq ne..
5 Kiya mujhe tere noor ne ghayal,
6 Jazbo mein machi, dard ki hulchul,
7 Jo bhi diya mere jiya ko jaane jaa,
8 Tere ishq ne..


Thats his opening lines. Very well done! 👏
It's a challenging opening sequence. The first line requires some passion, you can't just sing it normally. The 2nd line requires you to finish on a higher note so you sing at a higher range.
And then how he finishes the 3rd and 4th lines is also impressive. Especially the "ishq ne", he adds some harkat and prolongs it a bit for a strong finish. And that sequence is then repeated well again.

Then

1 Lut jaoon, lut jaoon, lut jaoon,
2 Mein lut jaoon, uss karz pe

3 Jo tune diya, ishq mein,
4 Jo tune diya, ishq mein,

5 Lut jaoon, lut jaoon, lut jaoon,
6 Mein lut jaoon, uss karz pe


If you listen carefully, as he is saying Lut jaoon lut jaoon", he says lut jaaon at a higher note than the time he said it before. And then line 2 he finishes off strong as well, right on sur and with power in his voice. And then line 3 and 4 require some high note finishes as well, which Himesh does a solid job on.

But overall, this was a difficult sequence that required you to sing consecutively at a higher and higher note, while also having good power and expression in your voice.

And once again, let's not question his expression, he is the MD and Actor in the movie 😆

1 Lut jaaon, lut jaoon, lut jaoon,
2 Lut jaoon…
3 Lamho mein ehsaas ka manzar,
4 Saason mein betaab samunder,
5 Jo bhi diya mere jiya ko jaane jaa,
6 Tere ishq ne..
7 Bheeni bheeni teri jism ki khushboo,
8 Haii tere andaaz ka jadoo,
9 Jo bhi diya mere jiya ko jaane jaa,
10 Tere ishq ne..


This is my favorite sequence. 👏
And I think his most well sung sequence too.

Lines 1-2, are probably the highest parts of the song, require you to go all out, which Himesh Reshammiya. And he had to add some harkats to prolong his voice.

Starting line 3, he comes in very strong. All the way to line 9, he is singing in a passion that can only be matched by few singers in the entire bollywood. You might think its fake, but that's because you don't like him. But really, it's intense, and and he sings well through it. Once again, a difficult sequence.

And then he finishes strong again

1 Lut jaoon, lut jaoon, lut jaoon,
2 Mein lut jaoon, uss karz pe..
3 Jo tune diya, ishq mein,
4 Jo tune diya, ishq mein,
5 Lut jaoon, lut jaoon, lut jaoon,
6 Mein lut jaoon, uss karz pe


He did this sequence earlier, it was difficult again, and he does well again. All my comments on this are there earlier.


And he finishes off with once again

Aaa ooo…aaa



And it's the sound of a legend finishing off a performance of his. That's how he sounded like in this sequence.


Brilliant performance! 👏


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Overall, I'll say great performance!
This is one of Himesh's best in my opinion, and it's definitely one of the most difficult he has had to sing. Haters are going to hate if they don't like his voice, but in reality it was very well sung and Himesh did a brilliant job throughout . I can't think of one singer (right this second) who could've matched Himesh's singing and passion in this song.



Rating: 9/10

Edited by ssk13809 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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LOOOL

Just because he is the actor and MD doesn't mean his 'passion' sounded genuine. His emotion sounded un-genuine and un-nuanced to me. It is a circular argument to say that we know he emoted well because the MD approved, coz he was the MD - obviously he would approve!!

Your whole review is an analytical vacuum. All you have done is point out sequences and said he handled it 'well', or it was 'impressive', 'strong' 'sounded like a legend' etc. Ha!

He sounded strained, he couldn't hit the high notes, he resorted to nasality because he has a narrow range, he couldn't pronounce words properly, his harkats were undefined - that is not good singing at all!

Writing a thousand word review with vacuus words like 'strong' and 'well' without anything to support your argument does not justify your score of 9/10.

What did he sing well? Forget about passion/expression coz those are vague terms and you can just say that it touched your heart. What about sur?? Was his sur any good? What about the nasality in his voice?


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: xobile

LOOOL

Just because he is the actor and MD doesn't mean his 'passion' sounded genuine. His emotion sounded un-genuine and un-nuanced to me. It is a circular argument to say that we know he emoted well because the MD approved, coz he was the MD - obviously he would approve!!

Your whole review is an analytical vacuum. All you have done is point out sequences and said he handled it 'well', or it was 'impressive', 'strong' 'sounded like a legend' etc. Ha!

He sounded strained, he couldn't hit the high notes, he resorted to nasality because he has a narrow range, he couldn't pronounce words properly, his harkats were undefined - that is not good singing at all!

Writing a thousand word review with vacuus words like 'strong' and 'well' without anything to support your argument does not justify your score of 9/10.

What did he sing well? Forget about passion/expression coz those are vague terms and you can just say that it touched your heart. What about sur?? Was his sur any good? What about the nasality in his voice?



I commented on sur too, but it seems like you missed it. And I said at the start "aaahh..aaa" was sung very well right on sur, I also commented on areas where he added harkats and prolonged his voice like when he "tere ishq mein" (once again read my review), and furthermore, I also commented on where he has some high pitches to do throughout the song, which he also did well (once again read my review)

It was more than just passion/expression, it was great singing!


Jai Matadi!
Jai Hindustan!

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Posted: 15 years ago
#20
This song is ok, but if u compare the works of shaan and shankarji with this one, it will be like comparing Elephant with a goat(himesh).
Himesh is nothing in front of Shankarji.

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