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and i agree many ppl won't like such pics of their relatives. but just 4 this u deny them their happiness!and may b her mother'd done 4 greed & not of majboori but does it give any license 2 blackmail sum1 & justify it in the garb of so-called moral values which IMV'd least regard. his only concern was his ego & honor. and its proved in the end that he did all 2 satisfy his ego & false honor.

kools beta..😆apologize for barging in your lil tete a tete .. but m gonna quote my prof for your benefit.. something he harps on incessantly.. that I assume too much knowledge on behalf of my audience..😆so chill.. me and you see a Heathcliff as dark, layered.. we almost romanticize him.. we see a Gail Wynand beyond his stoic cold blooded ways.. but everyone wont..

it was a quite early ending. i must say good shows ends faster and pathetic shows like Uttaran are still making viewers fool.😡

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

and i agree many ppl won't like such pics of their relatives. but just 4 this u deny them their happiness!and may b her mother'd done 4 greed & not of majboori but does it give any license 2 blackmail sum1 & justify it in the garb of so-called moral values which IMV'd least regard. his only concern was his ego & honor. and its proved in the end that he did all 2 satisfy his ego & false honor.

Whats wrong in protecting one's honor ? 90% of Indians r VERY TOUCHY about their izzat . It may surprise u but so r the wealthy Westerners ...the type who r churchgoing or have a country club membership . Blackmail kiya maane kya kiya ? Uska usse personal panga to nahi tha . He just wanted her out of his son's life as he believed her past wud haunt his son . Did we get to see that ? No na ? They ended it like a big fairy tale wedding but maloom hai asal main kya hota hai ? Had the serial run , they wud have defo shown tracks after tracks full of problems . And Sabina accepted na ? Kyu ? She did not have options is it ? Option tha na refuse karne ka ? Himmat dikhane ka ? Nope EVEN SHE AGREED . She herself was ashamed of her mom is the blunt truth .

i rem once baapu said if IMV won't've money then no1"ll rem him. if motilal master won't've money but no1 even 4get him & respect him likewise only!!

Really ?😆 Then why was IMV's name used when Motilal Master was rushed in hospital ?That take him in quickly , he is I M Viraini's Father ?😆 Why was it not told to the hospital that he is Motilal Master take him in ? Why was Motilal's name not used ? Who knew Motilal Master to remember him and respect him ...was he a Gandhi or something ? He was just a simple school teacher . Why was he hankering so much for respect post death anyways ?😆 Who is remembered ...Dhirubhai Ambani or his Dad ?

don't know whether u know that in ancient times there used 2b nagarvadhus which r sort of pros but they were given respect & their dauhters if didn't want 2 go n the profsn they were not judged on the basis of their mother's profsn.

And there r devdaasis in villages too , Culture is my personally fav topic . See the movie Devdas and u will understand what I am trying to say ...how Paro's mom was made to dance in the party or how ChandraMukhi was looked down upon . No one is saying they were bad . Ur talking of PRACTICALITY in one breath and yet ignoring the real reactions that wud have PLAGUED Vaibhav for LIFE . His father , who was more experienced foresaw it . He knew how Society wud hound his son ...unfortunately Serial has ENDED , we cannot see those parts .We gotta convince ourselves they had a fairy tale ending .

and no1 is saying u sympathise wid her mother but only thing is why make hill out of mole by saying abt sanskars.

Coz it MATTERS . It matters a LOT . In little little things it matters , the upbringing . Maybe for her holding hands or hugging a man is ok and she is dil ki saaf and does not mind it all , but Vaibhav WOULD . His upbringing was traditional and different . It wud pain him , he wud have been driven crazy .He cud not even handle the journalists shooting questions at her about her past affairs . IMV was not a fool to have concerns .

and abt knowing sabina's mom.they never said she did rt but they refused 2 judge sabina bcoz of her!!and ddi IMV'd chai-paani wid sabina's mom that he knew that wats the ckt of her daughter!

IMV did not need to have chai paani with Sabina's mom to know the character of her daughter dear . He had an ENTIRE FILE on Sabina's character right on his desk by employing private detective . He knew EVERYTHING about Sabinas character ...that she was linked with 3 directors before Vaibhav , that Vaibhav was not the first and only man in her life .

4 me IMV was never a grey ckt but rather villain of the story!!

For you perhaps .😊 But Let me tell u , as this was my bread and butter and my degree is in this subject only ...analysing characters ...IMV was very firmly a Grey Character . Thats how he wud be classified in Literature . He fits perfectly in that slot . Not telling you this to show my knowledge etc , this is simply a fact . Maine Yehi kiya hai jabse is mein degree le li . Harkisan Mehta knew what he was doing .😊 Yeh serial unhone aise khatam kiya , book mein uska character detail se develop hua hai .

i disagree wid u!!may b ur sub is analysing ckts. though i m not a literature student. i was a science. but i've interest in many oder sub likeliterature, psychology & philosophy. so'd read so many books & discussed a lot on it. and that Harkishen Mehta wrote his book on a real life prsn. i heard that one such businessman was there in gujarat he was 4th richest prsn in india at that time!!and i agree he knew wat he was doing but still he didn't recommend his way nor he glorified it & even he married sabina 2 vaibhva.and even wenever i read such discussions on black grey or white ckts. i never found critics or oder experts saying its a gud trend rather the profsnl sociologists r worried abt it!! even wenever theres sum film/show is made theres always concern in these profsnl ppl who r doing reaserach on this 4 whole of their lifre. so a prsn who tried 2 murder a gal just bcoz ur son luvs her & get killed a prsn so that he won't open his mouth abt his"kaali kartoots" then it won't remain a grey ckt how much we say!!!

Originally posted by: sonali.19281

kools beta..😆apologize for barging in your lil tete a tete .. but m gonna quote my prof for your benefit.. something he harps on incessantly.. that I assume too much knowledge on behalf of my audience..😆so chill.. me and you see a Heathcliff as dark, layered.. we almost romanticize him.. we see a Gail Wynand beyond his stoic cold blooded ways.. but everyone wont..

dark is rather commonly equated to villainy.. and ppl like us are considered evil worshippers.. for seeing the humane attributes in dark characters.. well what works for IMV was his sheer multiplicity.. all the other characters taken together couldnt equal his layers.. he REMAINS the most FASCINATING and ATTRACTIVE character.. and m so proud that someone on Indian tv attempted to portray a IMV and gave him as much dignity as possible.. in this day and age when holier than thou is hailed and intolerance stems for anything outside tht realm.. but in reality none of us are actually tht holy.. in fact far from it😆 D is as unreal as it gets.. relegated to fiction.. but IMV is in ALL OF US..😃

i disagree wid u!!may b ur sub is analysing ckts. though i m not a literature student. i was a science. but i've interest in many oder sub likeliterature, psychology & philosophy. so'd read so many books & discussed a lot on it. and that Harkishen Mehta wrote his book on a real life prsn. i heard that one such businessman was there in gujarat he was 4th richest prsn in india at that time!!and i agree he knew wat he was doing but still he didn't recommend his way nor he glorified it & even he married sabina 2 vaibhva.and even wenever i read such discussions on black grey or white ckts. i never found critics or oder experts saying its a gud trend rather the profsnl sociologists r worried abt it!! even wenever theres sum film/show is made theres always concern in these profsnl ppl who r doing reaserach on this 4 whole of their lifre. so a prsn who tried 2 murder a gal just bcoz ur son luvs her & get killed a prsn so that he won't open his mouth abt his"kaali kartoots" then it won't remain a grey ckt how much we say!!! Some of the best characters in literature r those who do crimes and yet r classified as grey characters only . Thats the way they r conocted by the authors . When Harkisan Mehta wrote the book he had a choice . He cud make IMV totally black [ the hee hee haa haa tye of villain ] or give him human attributes to make him interesting .He did the latter . When so called villains r given a solid human base for their crime instead of an inherent evil nature , it is classified as a grey character . I rest my case , if u dont wanna accet it , fine by me .

@kools i'd agreed 2 disagree. i was simply putting my opinions 4 not idolising IMV's ckt!! i agree that in literature best ckts may b r those who did crimes but still remain grey but taht doesn't mean those ckts & their authors r rite!! they were considered as not the ckts 2 b followed 2 learn from them & putting things as literary is quite difft than reality!!

@Kools: I completely agree..

i m happy for vs they ended together

Originally posted by: tiny15

@kools i'd agreed 2 disagree. i was simply putting my opinions 4 not idolising IMV's ckt!! i agree that in literature best ckts may b r those who did crimes but still remain grey but taht doesn't mean those ckts & their authors r rite!! they were considered as not the ckts 2 b followed 2 learn from them & putting things as literary is quite difft than reality!!

and i m also not saying IMV is totally black but i don't consider him eitehr as only grey!!its not necessary 2 bcum a villain sum1 has 2 do "heehaa huu"" type of laughter. luk at abu salem or dawood !! will u call them grey but they never did "heeheehaahaa"!!😆😆and i agree wen sum1 has sum strong reason 2 bcum criminal like phoolan devi then they r called grey ckt but wen phoolan devi started killing innocent ppl then she was turning in2 a black ckt or villain!!

and mukesh didn't've rift bcoz of tina munim but bcoz sum business activities & sharing in sum business. i'd read all abt it. so i can't say its the reason. bcoz why 2 wait 4 DB ambani 2 die??.doesn't his mother alive??and yes tina munim did stop working in films so sabina was also shown stopped working!!

i agree that in presently reliance is making proud but wen history is 2 b written it"ll b at the bottom!!so all in all which matters is who impacted india in human way. india was known 4 not just its wealth but also 4 its huamnity & morlity. ref. is Magsthenes"s Indica where he'd mentioned that there r no slaves in india though there were servants but they were generally treated gud.

and 2nd is Lord Macauly's description of India b4 introducing british educn sytem 2 produce corrupt ppl whose main gain is money!!😊

but i really like discussing wid u!!😊😊and even liked sum of ur points regarding even IMV!!!😊😊