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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: janavii

ok kools, great post. Iam not going to talk abt V, S & D. so many or saying so much abt them.

The Paradox of this show is the villain IMV is protecting Devki's interests ! For the first time he was uninterested in recovering his money that Devki invested in the movie and made it flop so Devki wud return ! He placed Devki ABOVE the money !
His Ashirwaad ...Hamesha is Ghar ki Bahu Bani Raho ...tells a LOT . The ONLY one to bless her thus , IMV SHONE INSPITE OF HIS EVIL DEEDS FOR THE FIRST TIME .

I dont accept this. He never loved anyone except himself. even not D. May be CP. but defo not D. If he loved, he would not have sent her to jail for a business contract. Now, also he doesn't care a penny for D. He hates BB, so he arranged V's marriage with D, so that he can take his revenge. Now, he hates S, so he wanted D to stay in her marriage. Nothing more than that. I don't see love for D anywhere. If he would at least cared her as CP's daughter, the he would not have said " Mere saath rahoge tho kamyabi paogi. Nahi tho barbad kar daloonga". Do u say this is love for his DIL.

He never placed D above the money or above his ego. He wanted his ego to win, so he wanted D to be his bahu rather S. About money, he never wanted her to win and return his money. He wanted always her to be debited for him. Its not his money he lost in movie flop. Its BB's money, isn't it? So, IMV is a damn egoist who never thinks more than himself, his revenge and his profit.

I disagree about this .
Everytime D talks of CP he remains quite and walks away . Every time Baa fires him for jeopardising D's business ventures inspite of being CP's daughter , that strange silence comes again .
He is one hell of an egoist but he holds on to that ego as he has nothing left in his life ...he is dead from inside , that ego keeps him alive . The Virani business is the manifestation of his ego and so is his moneypower . People hold on to something to keep ticking till they die physically and with IMV its this ego . His Ego is nothing but a shield for his emotions as he is scared of baring them to anyone . He died when he saw the destruction of CPs life . He once remarked that if she had been happy , he wud not have this bitterness in him .
Its nOT BBs money , from where will he give money ?Its Vaibhavs money that he loaned to Devki . So in a sense , IMV's money . IMV also paid off BBs loans before marraige ...he has not hesitated to spent crores to get Devki in his family by making her feel obliged . Neither does he care whether he gets that money back ...mind u , with others he is a shark where money is concerned . Why all this trouble to make her feel obliged to him ? So she shud say YES and remain in his family .
In a sense that is a compliment to Devki . She is above money , business etc . He wants her in his house as she is DEVKI , CP's daughter . Charu told D correct when D came to ask her opinion avbout saying YES to this marraige ...Charu said , he has become attracted to u as u defeated him , a grudging admiration has set in . He is not that bad Devki as he seems . The fact that she is CPs daughter was an added bonus and cemented it .
They will put in this dialogue one day when D confronts him about WHY he did it etc . His silenmce will break . I feel so as I watch this serial .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali.19281

Kools beta...🤣 JUST SAW EPI... OMG.. dude.. case point 5 ... our ARGUMENTS raised.. Sid Virani APPRECIATES his dad's brain.. and sees behind the motives.. as a FATHER..😎 b4 baa throws him on his tangent. .but I have as qs for baa.. More than Ishwar's zid.. I see your zid.. in proving to him and yourself.. about his ahankaar.. they tried to redeem baa a bit. .by letting her mouth objective lines like she does see IMV loves his family.. but he is ahankaari in tht too.. .i swear I wanna beep her everytime she uses tht word in the day..


btw... me thinks He will use Dali again as a bait..😉 as the RISHTEDAAR.. to completely throw D off.. and make her more emotionally answerable to IMV😆 kya kameena dimaag hain dude.. loving it.. and Choksi in the precap.. love how he dramatizes things.. todays epi was awesome for IMV, Viraj and Sid😊

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You bet ! 😆Yesterday while watching sid's dialogues I thought of u ! Ki sonali will say WE r being READ and HOW ! I am SO GLAD ! We must NOT stop Posting . Sid said PERFECTLY
The one who did ALL this , did NOT do it to harm Devki . People r so off track when they say it . He did it so V and S shud NOT get together . He did it so this marraige does NOT BREAK .
I hope IMV goes one step further . He has threatened Vivky Oberoi with not allowing him to proceed in his business venture of opening a chain of hotels , but if Vicky decides to become a martyr IMV shud tell him , I will tell ur WIFE that u slept with Sabina for days in my house in her room , posing to be a FAKE HUBBY . I will see to it that ur WIFE and KID knows this if MY sons marraige is broken . If u want ur marraige intact , be a good boy and help MY son to keep HIS marraige intact . BEAT THAT .😆😈
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

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You bet ! 😆Yesterday while watching sid's dialogues I thought of u ! Ki sonali will say WE r being READ and HOW ! I am SO GLAD ! We must NOT stop Posting . Sid said PERFECTLY
The one who did ALL this , did NOT do it to harm Devki . People r so off track when they say it . He did it so V and S shud NOT get together . He did it so this marraige does NOT BREAK .
I hope IMV goes one step further . He has threatened Vivky Oberoi with not allowing him to proceed in his business venture of opening a chain of hotels , but if Vicky decides to become a martyr IMV shud tell him , I will tell ur WIFE that u slept with Sabina for days in my house in her room , posing to be a FAKE HUBBY . I will see to it that ur WIFE and KID knows this if MY sons marraige is broken . If u want ur marraige intact , be a good boy and help MY son to keep HIS marraige intact . BEAT THAT .😆😈


🤣 how I miss discussing with you in real time.. I know man.. Sid threw me off yest.. it was like hey HE IS SPEAKING OUR LANG😆😎 the slight smile admiring the shrewd mind of his dad.. D laid the conditions tht she is here till S comes. .and S doesnt come now.. if she doesnt come for 64382748 yrs. she is gonna stay rite.. tht kid is digging deeper holes for herself.. he will attack her more.. to distract her.. I am thinking Dali but it cld just be CP.. altho tht wld be explosive.. its easier to put her in the backfoot by letting it out to BB as of now.. and give him a hrt attack

LMAO I think Vo already learnt his lesson in the lil shock.. dint u see how he changed his tone as soon as he gathered it was IMV on the line.. 😆 tryin to humor him.. but IMV cut him off.. straight to business.. see I have nothing against you.. but I will hit you if you get in my way.. and if Vo is smart.. he wld learn his lesson thro Sabina's news coming out.. man does what he says.. and at a time when it hurts the most.. if Vo does know where madamme is..he will try to talk to her first.. and as usual madam martyr wld dissuade him.. send a letter or vid msg for V.. tellin him this was the reason she never wanted to marry him.. coz loads was at stake.. and also now he shld settle wid D coz SHE LOVES HIM..😛 this is one possibility of V finding out. coz he is already on tht guilt trip for D..😆 if not BB going to ICU wld do it too.. as much as he try.. VV cant let go of his accountability keeda.. he doesnt have it in him to stage a walkout for love.. from his home and empire.. what he is thinking to presume IMV wld let all this happen beats me..as of now.. I am putting my money on Sid Virani for the heir.. if he takes such cues from dad😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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IMV also paid off BBs loans before marraige ...he has not hesitated to spent crores to get Devki in his family by making her feel obliged . Neither does he care whether he gets that money back ...mind u , with others he is a shark where money is concerned . Why all this trouble to make her feel obliged to him ? So she shud say YES and remain in his family .

excellent point you raise here.. by IMVs admission and action.. he doesnt let his ego come in way of his business.. take his dealing with Jimmy for an ex. he told Nirali businessman ko ego apna fayda dekh kar use karna chahiye.. so all this spending money.. investing in D CANT BE equated to EGO alone.. IMV is wayyy too smart for tht..

he has gone ahead in life.. built this very empire holding this sacred purpose in life.. to SHOW BB how wrong he was.. to break him humiliate him.. and when he finds out abt D being CPs daughter.. its the best premise.. so its a small investment for the big purpose.. later in his dealings with D.. he rediscovered tht soft side in him.. tht side which is somewhr in the corner.. which unsettles him.. which he buried along with CP.. D is inadvertently unearthing tht side in him. .tht wants to protect her.. tht wants to keep her as CPs shadow.. tht has a tinge of LONGING.. for CPs shadow.. for her daughter.. for WANTING the opportunity this time with D.. that he cldnt exercise with CP.. of giving her a good life.. of creating a bright future for her.. but HIM doing it.. he wont let anyone deprive him of tht right.. of tht dream.. BB did it one time.. V and VS are posing tht threat now.. he cldnt uproot BB then but he can uproot VS now.. iand yes he is in a way involved in this.. such that D has become his exception (courtesy Sowmya's reference to Gail-Roark) and only D apart from CP can reach him.. she has the priviledge that even baa hasnt had.. and in the bargain D stands to be benefited.. in her career.. in her love.. she told PK.. aisa ashirvaad dijiye ki dil se maangi hui khwahish poori ho..

IMV is doing it.. fulfing tht very dream of her.. tht she has stopped seeing for herself.. the dream of being someone in business.. the dream of making a world with the love of her life.. and this time he will make sure V comes around too.. and there is no scope for another divorce sign😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Why should V punished alone when Vaibav and Devki both are equally responsible in breaking their marriage.both should be held responsible for not understanding the seriousness of marriage.

if people say V shouldnt have married D as he can never treat her as wife. then D also shouldnt have married a guy like V who promised only friendship in their relationship.

jus becoz D has no past love doesnt mean she is not responsible for making the joke out of marriage by calling it compromise.

both made joke out of it.

chalo shaadi karte hain aur zindagi bar dosti nibate hain jai veeru ki tarah.😕this is not done.

and VV ,he has just become a parcel for both IMV and D.

D sends V to S.

IMV kicks V to D.

again D sends V to S.

and then the process goes onnn.

is he a play ground to play with.

IMV and D both kept him in dark and forced their decision on him. They should leave V alone and stop forcing him.

The villain respected the institution of marraige and the villain blew his money like water by weighing it against Devki and opted for Devki .


he spent money like water. yes offcourse. sone ke ande dene wala murgi jo hai woh.

he can afford to stop her from leaving coz she wil bring long run benefits for V ind.she is the smartest business woman( which i doubt now) and they both IMV and D can get crores and crores out of their business if they work togetha. so IMV wouldnt mind to pay small price to keep his smart Bahu in Vind.and he will definitely make sure D will remain his bahu to benefit Vind.

Which IMV is standing behind this?. Sasur IMV or Business man IMV?.

mujhe sasur IMV kam aur business man IMV zyada dikai dereha hai.😕

Was not it shown in Munnabhai MBBS that If one goes , another one comes , whats tHE BIG DEAL ? It takes time but its possible .


if one goes then another one comes phir usko hum taxi ya bus kehte hain. pyar nahi.😆


one guy/girl may have numerous crushes in their life but love, it rarely knocks the door.woh aata jata mehmaan nahi.😆


and in MB, CVs failed to show the strong love bonding(chand lamha wala pyar) between VS. they made it hard for us to believe if V had crush on S or love.


not only the compromise marriage, i also object the way they portrayed chand lamha wala pyar.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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My take on this is quite clear..afcourse it was a marriage of compromise...and i dont see why devaki vaibhav should remain married..vaibhav was clear from day one which is why he had got the divorce papers ready...infact devaki knows all this well..and is being shown to realise that she fell in love with him unintentionally but it was a mistake from her end...thats what i like about devaki..she's a smart practical forward going girl...even in yesterdays episode vaibhav is stressing for her to move on..which i liked...but i have a feeling devaki will be forced to stay in this marriage because of her grandfather and the devil IMV...what a pity!...anyway i do hope in the least we get some nice movements of sabina vaibhav...there was no proper closure to their story...and thats needed now... The most important thing i feel is for vaibhav to know the reality behind sabina backing off...and his fathers true colours!...thats going to be most intresting...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: R3b3l_Pr1nc3s5

Why should V punished alone when Vaibav and Devki both are equally responsible in breaking their marriage.both should be held responsible for not understanding the seriousness of marriage.

if people say V shouldnt have married D as he can never treat her as wife. then D also shouldnt have married a guy like V who promised only friendship in their relationship.

jus becoz D has no past love doesnt mean she is not responsible for making the joke out of marriage by calling it compromise.

both made joke out of it.

chalo shaadi karte hain aur zindagi bar dosti nibate hain jai veeru ki tarah.😕this is not done.

and VV ,he has just become a parcel for both IMV and D.

D sends V to S.

IMV kicks V to D.

again D sends V to S.

and then the process goes onnn.

is he a play ground to play with.

IMV and D both kept him in dark and forced their decision on him. They should leave V alone and stop forcing him.


I agree with you totally , in fact I hope BOTH the young fools are hauled up by SOME ELDER AT LEAST in this serial who speaks to them sharply about making a mockery of the sacred institution of marraige . Ideally it should have been Baa . The older the person , the more he realises the VALUE of these instituitions propogated by our ancestors . And the MORE he upholds them as generations change and the chipping away at values starts . But Baa is even more bohemian than Sabina it seems . She is propogating that PYAAR is the biggest thing and one has to leave everything and follow it . One shud leave his home , inherited wealth , break his marraige and run after it . Sabina was sensible , she did value her reputation over so called LOVE .She DID value HER mother although Vaibhav has NOT valued his Dad who built all this so one day he cud hand it over to him .I am NOT blaming Sabina here . She has NOT been immature enough to place LOVE as the ultimate end at all .

Devki has been idealistically foolish . Vaibhav has not CARED by thinking deeply enough . They BOTH played around with this institution called marraige which at least ONE ELDER took seriously enough besides IMV ...BB . Thats the reason he keeps asking Devki on phone Your Pati is with u na , Then I need not worry . if BB dies , it will nOT be IMV's mistake . Both Devki and Vaibhav should be slapped hard then , coz their misuse of a serious institution called marraige caused it . All IMV can do is manipulate circumstances , he cannot force people to take decisions . Marrying Devki was V's decision . Letting him go to Sabina was Devki's ...she had the audacity NOT to even consult hergrandfather or sasur before taking such a step . Deciding to walk away was Sabina's decision when she cud easily have told Vaibhav look ur Dad is blackmailing me , u deal with him please . I don't want this marraige if my mum is gonna be maligned in press , cannot afford it . It was SO SIMPLE actually . In all the 3 , I hold V and D most at fault although I support their union personally as a viewer , for it was THEY who played with marraige , not Sabina , who decided to remain UNMARRIED rather than play with it .

The villain respected the institution of marraige and the villain blew his money like water by weighing it against Devki and opted for Devki .


he spent money like water. yes offcourse. sone ke ande dene wala murgi jo hai woh.

he can afford to stop her from leaving coz she wil bring long run benefits for V ind.she is the smartest business woman( which i doubt now) and they both IMV and D can get crores and crores out of their business if they work togetha. so IMV wouldnt mind to pay small price to keep his smart Bahu in Vind.and he will definitely make sure D will remain his bahu to benefit Vind.

Here I do not agree . He who is established in millions and has potential of earning billions with his already established empire has no earthly need to go this crazy over a chit of a girl who walked in his life yesterday with nothing to her credit except a fresh degree from London's Business School . Neither has Devki brought great dowry to him in the form of a merger , nor worked for HIS projects but was pottering around with her OWN , much to his annoyance . All she had was an old grandpa who was a HAS BEEN in the business world . He saw potential in her and his vision encompassed what others who r doing Sabina jaap do not see ...that she has a flair of business , can help his son to run this vast empire , has GOOD FAMILY background [ a thing he stresses on emphatically ...see his dialogue yesterday about Ur different from Sabina , ur Bhawanji Sethiya's daughter }and yes , She was his CP's daughter . He cud have found hundreds of smart girls from business schools if he had searched other rishtas , the problem was he did not bother as he really LIKED Devki . Devki was his choice . To this date , forget profiting him like sone ki andi denewaali murgi , she has made him lose crores only . She has not exactly been a golden goose ...she has flair for business but she does business emotionally and foolishly . She invests money not with sharp business sense but by following her heart . She has been incredibly lucky till now that indirectly , for whatever reasons , IMV funded her by paying off BB's loans , or VV funded her by literally giving her capital interest free and as and when she wanted . She chose to invest it in FILMS , that too on an actress who had fled the country . She has SUCKED in businesss decisions , she has a long way to go before she becomes IMV's Golden hen . Thats too far fetched , why wud a Dhirubhai Ambani run after a fresh business school graduate , he has no need , he is already established while she is just starting .My point is other factors r involved in IMV wanting Devki , far more complex emotional factors .

Which IMV is standing behind this?. Sasur IMV or Business man IMV?.

mujhe sasur IMV kam aur business man IMV zyada dikai dereha hai.😕 Both . They r both intricately woven ...but this time , its the Sasur . He does NOT want Sabina at any cost as HIS bahu . ALL this is for that .

Was not it shown in Munnabhai MBBS that If one goes , another one comes , whats tHE BIG DEAL ? It takes time but its possible .


if one goes then another one comes phir usko hum taxi ya bus kehte hain. pyar nahi.😆 Pyaar is greatly OVER HYPED . The truth is when people leave u and go , one still goes on living . New goals r set , Footsteps turn in that direction to achieve them . This may sound callous but its a fact of life ...becoming a Devdas is the WORST way of wasting a wonderful opportunity of being born as a human and making a difference . Whatever IMV was , he BUILT something after losing CP . He did not commit suicide . Vaibhav has left his marraige , home , his lovely family and is not even doing business but roaming from city to city looking for an actress who clearly made it clear she respects HIS marraige and wants to move on . He has neglected his business for days , god knows WHO is managing it .Sid , IMV or Devki . Its absolutely pathetic . If this is the modern concept of 'love' i prefer the old fashioned school of thought , where one was simply told to put a lid on it .


one guy/girl may have numerous crushes in their life but love, it rarely knocks the door.woh aata jata mehmaan nahi.😆


and in MB, CVs failed to show the strong love bonding(chand lamha wala pyar) between VS. they made it hard for us to believe if V had crush on S or love.


not only the compromise marriage, i also object the way they portrayed chand lamha wala pyar.

Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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if one goes then another one comes phir usko hum taxi ya bus kehte hain. pyar nahi.😆

i didnt bring V or IMV in the above statement and didnt mentioned about V's pyar or Crush.

u stated if one goes then another one comes then whats big deal.

well some people fall in love for once and live their life with their pehla pyar. we cant apply this if one goes then another one comes rules for every one. we cant say every one can fall in love again.coz love cant be forcibly done or it cant be planned. it just happens. for some people it happens once in a life time. so for them its really a big deal.

in KHNH, Naina accepted her best friend Rohit as her husband but She couldnt able to fall in love with Rohit as the same way she fall for aman.Aman remained her first/last love.

people do exist like this.its up to them how they are making their life with their failure/success of pehla pyar. being devdas or doing suicidal attempts cant be encouraged. that every one know.(not bringing IMV and V anywhere here) and i am not talking about moving on or being devdas.

i just meant one goes then another one comes rule doesn't apply to all.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: R3b3l_Pr1nc3s5

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if one goes then another one comes phir usko hum taxi ya bus kehte hain. pyar nahi.😆

i didnt bring V or IMV in the above statement and didnt mentioned about V's pyar or Crush.

u stated if one goes then another one comes then whats big deal.

well some people fall in love for once and live their life with their pehla pyar. we cant apply this if one goes then another one comes rules for every one. we cant say every one can fall in love again.coz love cant be forcibly done or it cant be planned. it just happens. for some people it happens once in a life time. so for them its really a big deal.

in KHNH, Naina accepted her best friend Rohit as her husband but She couldnt able to fall in love with Rohit as the same way she fall for aman.Aman remained her first/last love.

people do exist like this.its up to them how they are making their life with their failure/success of pehla pyar. being devdas or doing suicidal attempts cant be encouraged. that every one know.(not bringing IMV and V anywhere here) and i am not talking about moving on or being devdas.

i just meant one goes then another one comes rule doesn't apply to all.


But where I am denying this . Indeed such people exist , they r rare but they do exist . I accept it . I gave the Munnabhai example to show an attitude one can adopt to go on living thats all . Behind that tapori philosophy in Munnabhai is a very sane explanation of how to move on .

Whether one forgets his first love or not , ALL have to move on only , isn't it .

There r two options for such people who simply refuse to let go of past ...

Never marry ,live on ur memories alone

Marry , do not forget , but do duties like IMV . He consummated , had kids , built an empire , provided well .

Vaibhav is doing NEITHER . I know u meant in general ,just giving his example .
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Vaibhav will move now...😊..i feel this time he wont step back..think he'll move towards sabina..and away from his father!...why should he consummate and have kids with someone he does not love...he's probably different to his pathetic father in that sense..besides devaki is no charu!...if she stays in this marriage it will only be becuae of her grandfather..that too i doubt!...but i dont see why vaibhav sabina story will not be taken forward properly this time..they cant keep fooling viewers time and again...because i agree that it will again be a torture to have vaibhav keep disclosing his undying love for sabina...with nothing happening...😉...

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