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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

Vasu I think we can hv a very interesting discussion on this topic😃..

In Sari's post we discussed about Kranti's Life-History by going back in the past and Analyzing her character😛..
So why not do the same for Raj too😳..Lets go back in the past and then try to analyze his character ...mayb we can then find out the answer to this question😳
So here goes my Analysis of Raj's character😛
Raj is stubborn type of a guy who strictly believed in the British Government when he came to India after studying from abroad..he always believed that Krantikaris r terrotists and if the british government is taking some strict action to wipe off these terrorists,then there is nothing wrong in it😊
Kranti as we all know is exactly the opposite and is a true freedom fighter..in other words a true Krantikari😊
What happens when two individuals of opposite nature meets😉...its Attraction obviously😆...thats what happened when RK met in that club...Raj initially was mesmerised with her eyes when for the first time he saw her😳...Kranti too for a second got attracted to this handsome hunk but somehow controlled her emotions and hits him with that mashall😆😉..
We all know that how those eyes of Kranti haunted Raj for so many days😳..but that initial attraction could never turn into Love...Why ??...there r two reasons for it..one reason was their different ideologies & strong personalities in other words their ego which came in between this feeling of Love...second reason was Raj's father's RB-Ship which was more important to him than his heart's call😃..So later Raj sort of ignored his heart's call and got into the professional world filled with betrayal and injustice
There was a time when Raj took part in a third grade kushti match just to prove a point to a girl😆..Why ??...Why always Kranti's words or her challenge bothered Raj ??😉...Even Sanjay asked him this question once but Raj had no answer for it😃..Mayb he himself never knew why he always got the satisfaction to defeat Kranti😳..I still remember whenever Raj won any case instead of celebrating it,he first used to walk towards Kranti and say to her "Look U were right but still I won it..haha"😆..by telling this his ego was satisfied...but my question is what sort of satisfaction he gets by defeating a girl ??😕...It is said that a champion always gets immense satisfaction by defeating a strong opponent..and Raj always knew that Kranti is his strongest opponent and if in this whole world anyone can defeat him then its Kranti...so that way he always had that respect for Kranti😉😳...He always wanted to win only from Kranti..whenever he takes up any case,there is always Kranti in his mind😃..He kind of became restless sometimes only to prove Kranti that "Look my ideologies r only right ..not yours"😳
But when it came to life-saving acts,Raj was always there to protect his biggest enemy from death😲..Why ??😕...During the Amritsar-Lahore Shootout,there was violence everywhere,bullets were fired from both sides while Raj was safely sitting inside the car😃;Suddenly he sees Kranti...gets out from his car..does not even care about his own life...and tries to get Kranti down on the floor just to save her from the bullets😲😕...He could hv easily seen his biggest enemy dieing at the hands of britishers..right😉..but no he forgot everything and went on to risk his own life to save Kranti's life😲...Again he did the same thing after marriage too by saving her life from that truck😳...He forgot that he was present there with a mission to arrest all the KKs including his wife;He just sees Kranti in front of the truck...leaves his mission midway and goes on to save her..once again he gives up the opportunity to trap his biggest enemy..why ??😕..I m not saying he did all this because he was in love or something..no he was never in love with Kranti..but as a man he had that respect for this woman who dared to defeat him multiple number of times😊..In other words Raj always wanted to defeat her but he never wanted to hurt her physically😳..
Then came the all important tabela night which changed it all and because of this all r confused about Raj's feelings right now😆😳
A night filled with passion and desire..a night which both can never forget for their whole life..a night where both were not fully in their senses but were very much aware that they both were with each other only and not any third person😉...So what made Raj cross that very important red line ?😉..Was he really drunk ?🤔..I don't think so😕...He was very much aware of what he was actually doing with Kranti😉..in a drunk state noone has that much patience of taking out payal from the leg ..or giving those gentle kisses on the hands😉..people become animals when they r drunk..but was Raj looking like an animal from any angle while making love ??😊..
Here goes the reason why Raj couldn't keep his control that night😳..Raj has always seen a determined,highly egoistic girl in the form of Kranti who can go to any limits to defeat him..So initially Raj saw Kranti as a typical Krantikari and this facet of Kranti was a major bridge between his love for her and his duty towards the Britishers because even though he had that initial attraction towards her but he always hated KKs and Kranti was also one of them..But during that night for the first time Raj saw a total different side of Kranti😳;After getting drunk,she was behaving like any other girl with lots of dreams in her eyes and that typical chulbulapan which any normal day-to-day life girl possesss😳;So for the first time Raj saw Kranti as this happy-go-lucky bindaas girl who wants to live life to the fullest and this new facet of Kranti,once again ignited that attraction in his heart towards her which was lost somewhere because of various other issues😃;Still Raj tried to keep control over his feelings but like we all know Kranti sort of provoked Raj and then all his hidden desires came out in open😳..For Kranti it was all Sin but for Raj it was a moment which he thought of cherishing for his whole life but alas morning changed it all
In the morning,from Raj's gesture in his sleep,it was clear that he was ready for a new beginning,he was ready to discover love and faith in their relationship,he was ready for that all important ceasefire😉;But again he was shocked to see Kranti in that devastated manner;Initially he could not believe his eyes after seeing Kranti's outburst..the whole moment was lost in split seconds😭..Then came the all important accusation by Kranti which shook him the most;Again for the first time Raj saw the vulnerable side of such a strong determined lady😲...Raj had never seen tears in Kranti's eyes..he knows that Kranti was strong even in those times when her Sohan Tauji died or when she got married to that Buddha😡..Raj had never ever witnessed such an outburst of his strongest opponent..So the first question which came to his mind was "Why today his strongest opponent is feeling defeated all of a sudden...why today she is looking lost for the first time..where has the spirit in this woman gone all of a sudden..why is she giving up so early..oh my god what will I do now..if my strongest opponent accepts defeat so easily"😆😳;He tried to convince her that this time he was really innocent and so her tears does not make sense😃but Kranti puts the biggest blame of molesting her🤢...Raj is completely taken aback now😲..Till now he knew that each and every blame of Kranti was justified because he actually was fighting each and every case for his own selfish gains but this time what went wrong ??😲😕..
After that Raj felt guilty and was blaming himself for the night which we all saw..but then he started to hv that realization process..he started wondering why today she is not trusting me when mayb I m right for the first time😆...is it because of those earlier negative pictures of mine which I hv portrayed to her ??..Then he started analyzing his faults and he realized that today he is innocent but he is unable to prove it in the same manner just like how those innocent people were unable to prove their innocence in the court and he took advantage of those situations to win cases for the Goras..today life has come to a full circle and he too is facing similar charges but is unable to prove anything...Then he started understanding the pain of an innocent man becoming a victim under the circumstances and thats what he told Sanjay too😭..
So from then on we started seeing a completely different Rajbir who was not sorry for the night but sorry for his previous deeds because now he knows the value of an innocent man and a fair verdict😊..Because of this realization he started seeing Kranti and her ideologies from a different angle..now today Kranti is no longer just an opponent or a Krantikari for Raj..today she is his wife,responsibility and life-partner😳..So he decides to give a new meaning to this relationship starting from forgiveness of course😳..
While doing this,once again those hidden attraction towards Kranti which in between got overshadowed by his different ideology started coming out because now Raj had wiped off those negative memories regarding his fight with Kranti and was just trying to keep those sweet memories with him😳;He started to look at Kranti with respect now😳..he started to feel Kranti's pain now which earlier he always ignored thanks to some brainwashing acts by Takla and his won father😡..
Now the question in everyone's mind is did only this one night changed it all ??🤔,..No it was just not this one night which changed all..it was this whole realization process after this one night which changed it all for Rajbir😃...After this one night only he understood the importance of an innocent man..he understood the meaning of pain..he understood the difference between right and wrong..and most importantly he understood his wife Kranti as a Woman who has lost all because of his wrong ideology and selfishness😊
So his next step was to change everything in Kranti's life and fill her life with happiness😳...I will not say that today Raj is in love😊..no he is still not fully in love with Kranti..he is slowly beginning to Discover Love today😳..He is slowly beginning to see the inner beauty of his wife today...he is slowly beginning to witness a whole new world of love,desire and affection and this explains all his dreams😉😳...he is slowly beginning to see the different side of a Krantikari girl who can dance in her sister's wedding..who can sing bhajan in the morning and touch everyone's soul and at the same time who can fight for her country and house😳..all these qualities of Kranti which he ignored earlier because of his false ego is getting noticed by him today😳..today he has put his ego aside and is trying to see his wife in a different light😳...So he is not in love but he is discovering love in Kranti😃
This is my explanation on Raj's sudden change and I know I hv bored everyone with my boring description🥱😆
So if we can just ignore all the logic and technical part in this storyline😆, I will say that they did full justice with Raj's transformation here😊
One more thing I m not trying to justify Raj's acts here..I m just trying to explain Raj's sudden change in heart😳

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Very welll said jo. Even creatives could not have described it so beautifully. All I hope that they are thinking on the same lines as you. Then only they will be able to justice to the show and both the cahracters. And I feel that till now hey have been doing that. It would have looked too illogical is they had shown sudden positive or negative turn in the characters. But you have beautifully described the confusion which is there in Raj's Mind.
Similarly Kranti is also confused she could not fathom that how come she lost her sneses. she did cos some where she is also attracted towards Raj but then she is shown to be a woman on mission thus will take a longer time to realise that.
Yes how could we forgot the morning after they spent the might at that lonely place. Raj's hands were looking for kranti in his sleep. He was indeed prepared for a new start and was fully aware about the things conspired between the two of them. And thats why his guilt is now bothering him even more. He might have thought that Kranti came to him cos she too is attaracted to him but in the morning he realised that it was not the case. Thats what is bothering him the most. My take on this.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: sami01

vasantha he was always attracted towards her she had always kept him intrigued

to me both of them were halfway in love even while living together
they had their spats but at basic level none could hurt the other
kakaji actually felt very genuinely humbled by krantis innocent surrrender he knew even though she was previously married to that cheap guy she kept her dignity intact( i felt experience moved him emotionally )
i dont think he i si love abhi he is strongly attracted to her, human being in him wants to do things right by her
he could not bear her breakdown as he had always seen strong kranti ,vulernable and hurting crying kranti was someone new to him and he realized he felt strongly protective towards that girl
also as makers showed raj telling his friend taht this acusation of planned seduction has left him devastated and made him realize how one would feel when one is falsely acused of some crime..
so to me raj has taken step towards deep emotional love he is halfway there,attraction is also part of falling in love and it was always there so actually to me its still very sweet soap and i watch it mainly bec of male leads performance and how he is implementing small changes in his character to make it even more authentic👏

Very well said sami. you have described it very well.
Edited by ranjna_m2010 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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you said it jo...
yes Raj never and ever want to hurt Kranti physically...
and now Kranti is blaming, he did all these just to defeat her.... which made Raj's heart to break.... he never had such kind of intention not even in his thought...you clearly mentioned each thoughts of raj in a very convencing way....👍🏼
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Jo ............Awesome analysis .............. as usual ........
You have brought out Raj's feeling of helplessness very well .........
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Brilliant Jo.. I was just reading and reading. 👏
But you are bang on about Raj's feelings..
Also, it happens (atleast in MB's), the hero having spent one night with the heroine cant get her out of his head.. she starts driving him crazy.. I think that is happening too.. to Raj..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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In arranged marriages,boy and gal dont fall in love before marr but in most cases they accept the person as there life partner and then once after the marriage they discover each other and in this process they slowly learn abt the other,start respecting and then in process fall in love.
And like jo has so beautifully put the discovery phase started and it started for Raj.For thick skulled and such people need a big push and tabela night was the push .
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: morningdew

Brilliant Jo.. I was just reading and reading. 👏

But you are bang on about Raj's feelings..
Also, it happens (atleast in MB's), the hero having spent one night with the heroine cant get her out of his head.. she starts driving him crazy.. I think that is happening too.. to Raj..

@ pink ............. you're so right ..............
And he'll follow her to the ends of the earth to get her back ........... *Sighhhhhh * that brings back memories of the teen years , spent poring over M&Bs ..........
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Posted: 16 years ago
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hey jo....as ususal fantabulous analysis!!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Vasu, everyone has said what was supposed to be said. Me have nothing to add... whatever it's, it should soon bloom into love... can we dump the past and embrace the future, happens all the time, we move out of past and take a step to hold the hands of future.

The present holds the strings of past and future ... now its up to the protagonists what they want to hold and let go. 😃


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Posted: 16 years ago
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jyoti iam now sure that u r one of the writers of this soap seriously speaking i dont think even those silly creatives have thought of raj"s story the way u have described it.i think this dialogue of raj that he is now understanding the pain of an innocent man was a last minute addition as nobody cud really understand the sudden transformation of raj, everyone was like is it lust or guilt? cant b love for sure chalo atleast these creatives were able to justify his transformation to a certain extent.

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