Using family as scapegoat- K any better than R?

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morningdew

@morningdew

Dazzler

Posted: 16 years ago

Somehow, I dont approve families being used as a pawn during personal enmity between two ppl. Earlier I was furious with Raj when he used mamaji as a pawn in his war with Kranti, and yday, even though it comes full circle, I was upset to see Kranti using Raj's family as a means to get him to apologise to her.

I know Kranti is hurt, but still I felt bad for Raj. Kranti very clearly stated that he had also hurt his family, so she had a complete right to hurt his, but this means there is no difference between the two of them, right?

Raj's Achilles Heel is his family.. A fact Kranti is very well aware of, and is taking full advantage of the fact.. I think she will keep doing so for a long time..its not that I m accusing her or anything, but I dont feel comfortable seeing innocents get hurt for no fault of theirs.

Yesterday, after clearly stating that he wud not apologise, Raj had to come back, swallow his ego and apologise to Kranti. Only so that b/w their personal warfare, his family doesnt get hurt.

Both families are suffering because of their personal enmity, and I cant condone it..

My qn is simple, is there any other way revenge can be extracted? Or families always have to become a scapegoat?

Edited by morningdew - 16 years ago

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Gagori Chatterjee

@jyoti06

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Posted: 16 years ago

Ena thats a very good point u hv mentioned👏...why to involve innocent families in their personal rivalry ??

Ok before my take I would like to clarify that whatever I say,the fact still remains that I m supporting Raj😉😳

Now regarding the issue I don't think Kranti is really using Raj's family here..because in Raj's case,just to prove Kranti wrong he went ahead and planted that gun in her Mamaji's house and even got him arrested as a result of which her Mamaji had to suffer in jail and she had to suffer in that buddha party's company😭...there was a major damage done to Kranti's family because of Raj..

But in Kranti's case she is only telling those words to Raj like your family will pay the price and etc..etc just to see that fear in his face😉😃..at the same time they r showing Kranti giving full repsect to Raj's family👏...Even when Raj's mother tells her such harsh words she kept quiet just because his mother was elder to her😳 and she said the same thing to Bibi-Rani also that whatever they might think of her but as elders she will continue to respect them👏...Never heard Raj telling these dialogues ever to Kranti's family😕😆😉..

So if u see Kranti never tried to do any damage to Raj's family unlike him other than just giving those small time dhamkis to Raj😃..she has shown tremendous respect for Raj's family till now unlike Raj who still considers Kranti's family r not worthy of their society..

Now in the future if Kranti causes any such damage to Raj's family like he did to her family then I might change my opinion regarding this😆..

All said and done...I still maintain that East or West....Raj is the Best😉😆😃

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morningdew

@morningdew

Dazzler

Posted: 16 years ago

JO, what bigger damage cud she do to the psyche than blackmailing Raj into marrying her, without his family's permission? Knowing that , that particular day was a landmark day for his family.. she completely ruined their reputation, and made them laughing stock.

Agreed, it was all to hurt Raj, but his family suffered greatly in the process, nahi?

After the marriage, she hasnt done anything disrespectful, agreed, but she will continue to harass Raj using his family as bait.

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priya

@-.Priya.-

Sparkler

+ 2

Posted: 16 years ago

but she hasnt done anything much

and i'm sure my sweety will not do any harm to the family

she'll change before that

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vasantha

@vasantha_rao07

Stunner

Posted: 16 years ago

let's see ..what more she wil do😆

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Nupur

@Nupur9

Rocker

Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: ektay11
but she hasnt done anything much
and i'm sure my sweety will not do any harm to the family

she'll change before that

I agree Ekta, other than hurting him using his family as a bait....she really hasn't done anything disrespectful.

Look at this way Ena....and don't get me wrong...we are not going for a tit-for tat scenario.

But Raj not only deceptively got her mamji jailed......got Tauji killed.....and had them reprimended by paying off a big bail amount.........

What he did was hurt the family and the girl both directly!!!

Now Kranti is not even remotely touching the family....she is avenging Raj....!

I agree that her means will hurt the family coz they are connected to Raj....but she is not trying to hurt the family by for eg having Raj write his jayadaad or some such arcane idea....

she can hurt and be disrespectful in many way........

She could have totally refused to come for Gauri puja....Now that would hurt not just Raj but his family and their glass reputation!

Instead she made Raj....who we all agree is an arrogant person, say he is sorry.......

yeh alag baat hai ki Raj said sorry without meaning him....though Kranti suffered big time coz of Raj's doing!!!

So to me Kranti seems to playing fair game....

Coz anytime anyone will hurt a person....everyone connected to that person will suffer!

The act becomes unpardonable when ther person is targetting your near & dear ones to make you suffer!!

On personal level Kranti is only trying to avenge Raj.........!!!

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Taiyo

@Taiyo

Stunner

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Posted: 16 years ago

Dew, whatever way Kranti takes, it will hurt the family... he is their ladla son, so even if Kranti only hits out at R, the family will be troubled. The main aim of the marriage was to create friction between R and his family... I doubt if she thought about his family...

But, sensing Bibi-rani's motives, she snubbed her... if she really wanted to trouble the family, she would have signed an alliance with the flop vamp.

It's like a chain reaction now... it's no longer professional business like before, now it has become personal, so the close ones will also take a beating. Sorry state of affairs but that is how it's going to be for a while.

I do not see any other way...

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morningdew

@morningdew

Dazzler

Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Nupur9

I agree Ekta, other than hurting him using his family as a bait....she really hasn't done anything disrespectful.

Look at this way Ena....and don't get me wrong...we are not going for a tit-for tat scenario.

But Raj not only deceptively got her mamji jailed......got Tauji killed.....and had them reprimended by paying off a big bail amount.........

What he did was hurt the family and the girl both directly!!!

Now Kranti is not even remotely touching the family....she is avenging Raj....!

I agree that her means will hurt the family coz they are connected to Raj....but she is not trying to hurt the family by for eg having Raj write his jayadaad or some such arcane idea....

she can hurt and be disrespectful in many way........

She could have totally refused to come for Gauri puja....Now that would hurt not just Raj but his family and their glass reputation!

Instead she made Raj....who we all agree is an arrogant person, say he is sorry.......

yeh alag baat hai ki Raj said sorry without meaning him....though Kranti suffered big time coz of Raj's doing!!!

So to me Kranti seems to playing fair game....

Coz anytime anyone will hurt a person....everyone connected to that person will suffer!

The act becomes unpardonable when ther person is targetting your near & dear ones to make you suffer!!

On personal level Kranti is only trying to avenge Raj.........!!!

Hmmmm.. Nups, this has to be one of your more serious posts 😊

You know, I was thinking of this thing yday, of posting this topic, but dint, coz I knew that many of us feel, and justifiably so, that Kranti's game is fair.

But its just that, whenever such things happen, parents get hurt. Even if the aim is not to hurt them, being parents, they do.

Same is the case here.. I totally agree with you and Ekta that so far K hasnt done anything much to hurt the family. Nor wud she do something drastic.

Its just the sword of Damocles which hovers over Raj's head, and his family's. ANYTHING Kranti does to belittle Raj, wud directly affect his parents. You saw R's father's worry today. Ditto tomo, when K gets arrested. Nothing can change that. They get hurt, even if its not her intention. Sad, but true.

p.s. I m not saying that K shudnt go ahead in her mission. I m just stating the harmful side effects of the same. I also add that they are temporary. But right now, they are there.

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morningdew

@morningdew

Dazzler

Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: an12345678
Dew, whatever way Kranti takes, it will hurt the family... he is their ladla son, so even if Kranti only hits out at R, the family will be troubled. The main aim of the marriage was to create friction between R and his family... I doubt if she thought about his family...

But, sensing Bibi-rani's motives, she snubbed her... if she really wanted to trouble the family, she would have signed an alliance with the flop vamp.

It's like a chain reaction now... it's no longer professional business like before, now it has become personal, so the close ones will also take a beating. Sorry state of affairs but that is how it's going to be for a while.

I do not see any other way...

Arre, An, I just said the same thing to Nups in this thread.. 😊

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skeptical

@skeptical

Inactive

Posted: 16 years ago

#10

There were a few dialogues which give solace in the sense that she doesn't want to hurt the others in the family. I distinctly remember two.

My hindi mayb a bit rusted but the message is loud and clear.

1. Woh mere buzurg hain. Unka pasand napasand sar ankhon par

2. Gehu ke saath kabhi kabhi gud ko bhi pisna padta hain.

She doesn't want to involve or hurt the family. But she knews they are going to be affected. She will try and cushion the blow as much as she can for them.

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