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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: -madhvi-

Sonya
I will agree to whatever u will say ....... if u will b able to explain some facts on the basis of ur theories...
1)y were there articles saying rati is throwing tantrums....(they wouldn't have done that if they planned to get her back).....this would b a kind of disrespect shown to the actor......so that her fans don't want her back

2)If rati was ever a part of the plan then she wouldn't have said what she said bout the cvs in the show time magazine n also the recent tb article where she said she would return only for her fans.....(she would have praised mjht all the way n would have said she misses mjht)
she is honest yes, but that doesn't mean she would say bad stuff about the show which is still hers.....n the people in the show with them she has to work .....she cud have chosen to stay mum

3) why would they lose out on trps for two months......probably one month more than enough.....y two months or more than that

4) y side line mayank....if they wanted rati or nupur to come back....they would have showed mayank weeping n missing her every now n then.......they had done it in the beginning n r doing it now only when they plan to get her back...... (There were a few scenes in between .....But they were more like fillers)

5) removing the fav character would get a lot of response.... agree....getting it back would create a havoc true......but that never said with the same face.....

6)y think of bring back rati towards the end of the time limit given.......they cud have got any1 but rati......but they r getting rati.....coz the no of mails n calls tell them about her fan following


If you can give me some more explanation over y these things happened ill surely believe u but till then I'd like to believe-

Cvs dint want rati in the show, trps were down.....they created a track to throw her out.....they planned to play it safe by not showing her body.....or probably they thought that they will get a new nupur later.......trps dint increase.....weird cast (I don't mean monayajun) /no proper storyline/absence of rati being some of the reasons.........and the dead line was coming close...
This created an SOS situation for them n made them think about rati's return



Okay, Madhvi let's see if this helps (Sorry for the late reply though, I have been working on revising a paper and if the professor sees me this time without the paper, I'll surely get killed).

1) An intelligent observer on this thread mentioned that the articles following Rati's exit were attributed to "random" authorities who did not disclose their identities - "The little birdie" as they call him/her. S/he referred to them as cowards while I'd say there were good strategists. As far as I remember, that's true. The articles I read about Rati passing tantrums were all in passive in a fashion like "It has been reported that..." Very careful not to quote the person who said it. Now that having been said, when they bring back Nupur's character and asked to justify such previous reports, they can easily reject them as false reports. Sudhir Sharma can readily say did I not mention in my interview that Rati is one of my favorite actresses.

2) When did Rati ever say anything bad about the CVs? If I'm not mistaken, on this very forum I read her fans claiming that she has been covering up for CVs due to her good nature. Apart from I was not informed about my exit which upsets me, what wrong did she say about CVs? In fact, I remember reading in her interview that the creatives know what's best for the show.

3) Losing on trps for the time being is no big deal specially when you know that you have a power boost. I had read an intelligent analysis attributed to Rati. She had said she rejected the lead role in the Dulhan show on zeetv, because it doesn't work when you replace an established actress - people won't simply accept you. So, don't you think it was a difficult task for the creatives to make the audience accept the new entries? There was no way they could do it without falling Trps. And, I don't think we can deny that they're somewhat successful in establishing their new entrants. Like someone said on this thread, that people have started making videos of Rohan-Ash on youtube. I, myself, hated the mere sight of them in the first episode and now I'm quite fond of them.

4) Mayank had to be sidelined for the time being until Nupur's return. I'd say if they didn't intend Nupur's return, they would have kept Mayank only in passing as a successful Mechanical engineer in the U.S. That is, they would have axed Mayank's character too. Alternatively, they could introduce a new face, but they didn't do that either. I don't agree when you say that Nupur's flashbacks are only to fill the space, because I think they are very much part of the show. All of the three leads remember her from time to time. Samrat actually talks to her!

5) I understand that you're saying here that a new face could also replace Nupur's character. I'd refer back to Rati's quote where she says there's no way the audience can stand a replacement of an established character with a new face. I have seen such disasters on other serials. Okay from the top of my head, I can recall Karam Apna Apna on Starplus. The moment Iqbal Khan was replaced by another actor as the lead, I for one thing stopped watching the show.

6) As evident from my post, I don't think bringing back Rati is a recent decision. They were expecting the kind and number of emails you talk about right when they asked Nupur's character to 'die' temporarily. So, it's not news for them!
Edited by Sonya1986 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
I just know one thing- MJHT is incomplete with RATI!

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Posted: 15 years ago
I think you mean "without" Rati?
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Posted: 15 years ago

yes of course she means without rati!😆

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: kayamath_fan2



apparently, Nirbhay might return if Rati returns! as per the article! =) and yes, THEN the show will go on!



Okay now this is cute: The majority or I must say everyone is content with wrapping up the show for good except for Anu, who is insisting on how the show can continue...

And Anu, no worries about spamming (dont know how the moderators would react to that, but it's all cool with me. As long as someone says something sensible even if it is off topic, I think it's worth reading. So, just make sure you retain your sanity and you can be bindaas in posting).
Edited by Sonya1986 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Hmm.. Well it wasnt preplanned but in actual they try to see whether the audience have accpeted the current track in which the main character wasnt there and if the show had become successful, they had never brought back nupur in the serial. So, basically, they test us (the Audience ) But i dont understand 1 thing, Why they havent showed Nupur's body when she was declared dead, I think the CV's has been inspired by Ekta in this matter..😉

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: mohit.great

to be honest youre post makes much more sense to me then any actor of mjht or sudhir sharma rati pandey says that she wans't informed that shes is the one exiting the show but avhiroop part of mjht cv department left doing things with mjht department wit mayurs confession bt he knew that Nupur is the one diening the show when my cousin asked him how does he know as he left the department long back he said its all prewrittern when asked do u knw if rati pandey will make a comeback in the show he answers that it depends on how the trps are doing..

now that we can see Ria and Meer Ali has left the show theres a possibility that nupur will come back Ria was after Mayank nd now shes gone that means Ratis comeback?



You know what, now you're a more credible source to me than all those articles attributed to the actors or the production house - (PH I mean!). Because, I said bring me something from someone 'unrelated' to the show for me to believe, and there you're.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Sonya1986



You know what, now you're a more credible source to me than all those articles attributed to the actors or the production house - (PH I mean!). Because, I said bring me something from someone 'unrelated' to the show for me to believe, and there you're.



@red in mohit.great 's post ....Sonya, I think u forgot to highlight this..He also said this na when the mohit.great asked him abt Rati's come back..It is also important ....It's ok..I highlighted it now...

@mohit.great...Thanks for the news..

Edited by FanOfMAYUR - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
Well I kind of don't believe it was based on Trps (maybe partially, but the return of Rati was almost a must to me the day she paused shooting for the show). The reason I think so is because I don't believe the news about Rati passing tantrums on the sets. And, if I don't believe that, then I'm left with the question why else would she be asked to leave the show? Despite the repeated reminders of the creatives being ultra-stupid, I don't think any creative team capable of putting up a show like this can be that non-sensical. I'm hoping they had the intelligence to think that if we insult the most popular actress by asking her to leave without any notice, it is very likely that in the event of falling Trps, she might refuse to come back even if we beg her. Therefore, and as it is clear by now from my discussions, I believe she didn't quit the show in the first place.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Sonya1986



Okay, Madhvi let's see if this helps (Sorry for the late reply though, I have been working on revising a paper and if the professor sees me this time without the paper, I'll surely get killed).

1) An intelligent observer on this thread mentioned that the articles following Rati's exit were attributed to "random" authorities who did not disclose their identities - "The little birdie" as they call him/her. S/he referred to them as cowards while I'd say there were good strategists. As far as I remember, that's true. The articles I read about Rati passing tantrums were all in passive in a fashion like "It has been reported that..." Very careful not to quote the person who said it. Now that having been said, when they bring back Nupur's character and asked to justify such previous reports, they can easily reject them as false reports. Sudhir Sharma can readily say did I not mention in my interview that Rati is one of my favorite actresses.

2) When did Rati ever say anything bad about the CVs? If I'm not mistaken, on this very forum I read her fans claiming that she has been covering up for CVs due to her good nature. Apart from I was not informed about my exit which upsets me, what wrong did she say about CVs? In fact, I remember reading in her interview that the creatives know what's best for the show.

3) Losing on trps for the time being is no big deal specially when you know that you have a power boost. I had read an intelligent analysis attributed to Rati. She had said she rejected the lead role in the Dulhan show on zeetv, because it doesn't work when you replace an established actress - people won't simply accept you. So, don't you think it was a difficult task for the creatives to make the audience accept the new entries? There was no way they could do it without falling Trps. And, I don't think we can deny that they're somewhat successful in establishing their new entrants. Like someone said on this thread, that people have started making videos of Rohan-Ash on youtube. I, myself, hated the mere sight of them in the first episode and now I'm quite fond of them.

4) Mayank had to be sidelined for the time being until Nupur's return. I'd say if they didn't intend Nupur's return, they would have kept Mayank only in passing as a successful Mechanical engineer in the U.S. That is, they would have axed Mayank's character too. Alternatively, they could introduce a new face, but they didn't do that either. I don't agree when you say that Nupur's flashbacks are only to fill the space, because I think they are very much part of the show. All of the three leads remember her from time to time. Samrat actually talks to her!

5) I understand that you're saying here that a new face could also replace Nupur's character. I'd refer back to Rati's quote where she says there's no way the audience can stand a replacement of an established character with a new face. I have seen such disasters on other serials. Okay from the top of my head, I can recall Karam Apna Apna on Starplus. The moment Iqbal Khan was replaced by another actor as the lead, I for one thing stopped watching the show.

6) As evident from my post, I don't think bringing back Rati is a recent decision. They were expecting the kind and number of emails you talk about right when they asked Nupur's character to 'die' temporarily. So, it's not news for them!




Your reasons to my points are acceptable....but only to a certain extent.....as a matter of fact, both of us don't know the truth n debating over it won't bring us to any conclusions......
your theory is successfully in explaining some stuff....but still it has its own loopholes.....

I agree to what u said bout pt one.....your right, since there were no names.....those will b rejected as rumors

On the second point, rati did say stuff not really +ve bout them, but very subtly.....diplomacy is her trait.......n ya her proud fans were right....the way she gave stuff away was intelligent in the interview.........like saying they thought she was unprofessional but she isn't and also she indirectly hinted that what they did was bad ( or unprofessional).......but she would not have said the same things if she was sure that she will be a part of the show very soon........also I remember her saying mjht has lost its charm......she would not have said that........... If she was still a part of it.
Also what fans said was she is being kind to the cvs by not openly claiming their unprofessional nature, not that she dint say anything against them at all........
(PS: Rati fans I totally believe what she has done is correct n I respect her more for that)

Ohk on the third point what u said dint seem satisfactory.......on what rati said quite a lot of time back n what happened now in the show .....I dint get the link......if they wanted to establish the new characters.....they could have done that better with mayank n nupur both in it......c the people who r fond of them r mostly sajan fans or very few mayank fans.......both mayur n nupur fans have stopped seeing the show......also they had planned to bring rati back beforehand the channel would have forced the creatives to move the storyline faster so that she is back......because of the falling trps
If they had the power boost, they would have used it long back.....y dint they do that
I still dint get y use the power boost this late??

point 4.....c the entire ria thing with mayank....one scene here n there is not what I call giving him importance......most of it was to add humor to the show.......c when they want to hint on nupur returning how mayank has become the center point .....becoming devdas.......it wasn't done earlier.....he was just like one unhappy soul hanging here n there........background character........they would have shown him crying more often than they did.....whenever cvs plan something big........they give it out some way or the other.....I'm saying this by experience....

pt 5.....rati said that long back, that is her point of view, not cvs.....also inspite of the fact that most new actors have not been able to impress the audience there are many leads that are till date removed and replaced.........

pt 6- c they expected fans to b unhappy at first n then accept the story.....they dint expect them to react this strongly.....n when they did c such a reaction there was a edited rati pandey interview saying she is happy with the decision.......

C I don't deny your story is interesting, but u know if something like this was their some other birdie from some place must have confirmed it, trust me we have efficient birdies. So many people must be aware of this (agar what u r saying is true) ......not disclosing it at all would have been a impossible task

also I agree my theory is also isn't perfect, but I find it a little more believable than mine, also my theory explains the interview of sudheerji, it was to relax the fans........out of the interview sudden interview of sudheerji weird
Also there should be master mind to plan what u talk off, the current creatives can't handle a track very well, I doubt that they would come with such a theory......I seriously doubt that. Even if u will like to believe that those people are good at their work and efficient too, and then also going ahead with such kind of ideas would have been a gr8 risk for them, I doubt if anyone would have taken it up very readily. They might have thought of bringing nupur back but i doubt they ever thought of getting rati pandey back.

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