@anjs
Agree with you here- she DOESN'T confide in anyone. I was definitely one of those who was steaming out of my ears when she didn't confide in Nimmi or Preeti right at the start, before it all got so out of hand. Still I also say that Nimmi barely gave her a chance, even Preeti sometimes told her sister off for being so nasty about it. And we're given the excuse that she's "young", but come on we were all young once, we didn't all go bonkers throwing a newlyweds saris in the fire lol she was truly over the top- so could that have been the reason Riya was just put off saying anything?? But lets be honest, this show IS illogical. At the start of the serial, N, P and S were all referring to shanti as Shashikala- I mean they hated her, they hated the way she treated them and their mother and were desperately wishing for someone else to come and bail them out of a problem they refused to handle themselves. Enter Riya- who basically knew nothing, zero, zip. So when she started acting normally- like any new bahu would with her MIL and GMIL- then without bothering to explain the actual situation to her, N and P started feeling resentful. And above all that, Shivam was the instigator or catalyst to shut them up. He outright denied them opening up to their bhabi. I mean right there, he nipped any potential relationship between these women. And that's what irks me. The whole relationship was built on lies and truly a one sided love (Riya for Shivam). Riya practically manipulated him into marrying her, instead of it happening naturally she forced situations on him and Shivam never told her the real true colours of shanti or how she treated his sisters and mum and himself for that matter. The only inkling he gave her was that his family wasn't like other families and that she would struggle fitting in. Of course, anyone who is head over heels in love with someone (as in blind as a bat with love goggles) would say something along the lines of "I will deal with whatever comes my way as long as you support me). And of course she forgot that for someone to support you through thick and thin- they have to be seriously madly in love with you. I mean at what point have we seen any PASSION from Shivam? His love for her is like over diluted squash, its almost bitter and resentful- even to begin with. And yet- she was fine with that. She has demeaned herself from the get go and I really find her exceptionally pathetic. I cant stand shivam- because he has a selfish mindset- he wants his way no matter what without refusing to change himself. And Riya irritates the hell out of me, because what self respecting human being would latch onto someone who refuses to compromise, to think laterally, to listen to her just as she listens to him. How friggin desperate do you have to be?? Grow a pair already and move on. Honestly- both of them need to grow up before finding new partners. All I can say is at least Riya is a bit more forward thinking than he is- and yet we are all watching her for so long now changing herself so drastically to accommodate him whilst he makes NO changes. Its such a twisted, unbalanced, unhealthy relationship- both parties should be making equal adjustments to one another. No one is just being honest and slapping the truth on the table, regardless of how painful or uncomfortable it might be, and that's the problem. We keep analysing these two morons- me included- and isn't it kind of like we are recycling the same words? The show and characters are illogical, no one would be behaving like this in real life. How is it that Nimmi was the one who hates shanti the most and couldn't bear it when she was watching her abuse her mother- and the same girl ALL OF A SUDDEN started getting really upset when shanti put on that red sari and turned into a damned hermit? Isnt that what she had wanted from the start? For the evil witch to retract her claws from her mother? And yet there she was whinging and whining about how she missed her dadi ""teasing"" her. Nimmi wasn't calling it ""teasing"" in the beginning, when dadi locked her in a storeroom and threatened to beat the crap out of her, it wasn't "teasing" then. So what changed all of a sudden?? Its just so illogical. And as soon as Riya entered the house she expected her to just magically understand their screwed up family history LOL what?? How, without informing her?? Nimi- the one who defied the rules and did her own thing- with just one word from her dear brother- decided to keep her mouth shut?? The one time she actually needed to open her mouth and confide in Riya, she didn't. How is that logical?? So this whole show makes no sense. Every single character in this show seems to not know what they are doing or why. Just that they want to satisfy themselves at any cost.
As for learning her lesson lol Im not sure she even realises theres a lesson to be learnt. She is so dim witted, running about everyone like a slave in that getup desperate for their acceptance. She doesn't seem to care how much she demeans herself for them.
@leavesandwaves
I both agree and disagree with you here and maybe in a different context. You are absolutely right when you said that if riya cant share her probs with shivam due to his angry nature, then she will never do so in the future. It happens in heavens knows how many relationships. If anyone on here has been in a long term relationship before then you will know that it obviously takes quite a bit of give and take to understand each others idiosyncrasies. If only one or neither party makes the effort then the one who is making the effort (or some effort) is quickly going to give up- just to avoid antagonising, upsetting or rocking the boat. Especially in the beginning- when things are so new. I think both have to take responsibility for their behaviours- you cant expect one half of the pair to make all the allowances and be this super understanding mother Teresa or Buddha that you just let the other person behave and act however they like- even when it makes you uncomfortable. Its not love when you allow someone SO much freedom, that you cant even speak your own truth anymore. There has to be a healthy balance somewhere. And I agree with you- there IS a problem in their marriage, there was a problem from day one- before marriage. It was a one sided love. And now she is degrading herself to be Mrs. Shivam- and indeed she will pay ANY cost to get it. Its pathetic. But not only because she is so desperate and such a sad case but also because shivam is utterly useless husband material. He cant function in a give and take relationship- because whatever part of her soul his wife will give him, he will take it and throw it to his mother and sisters- He wont keep it safe or sacred in his heart. And yep- Shivam was honest with Riya right from the start- telling her that his family is backwards and she wouldn't fit in and yet she insisted. But after marriage his honesty took a leap out of the window. Instead of sitting her down and explaining the reality of his family being under the totalitarian dictatorship of shanti- he just let her believe that dadi is this sweet little old lady. Despite knowing how cunning and evilly she manipulates others, despite seeing the results for himself as Riya started warming to shanti and watched riya being used as a pawn in shantis evil plans- he still did nothing about it. To the point where he stopped Nimmi and Preeti from saying anything to her, "hoping" that Riya would understands shantis true nature all by herself like magic. The whole relationship was based on lies and misinformation from the start of it all- so yes, their marriage is a big huge problem. It's a farce. Now that Shivam has quite clearly and plainly explained to her that he does not love her, like her, accept her, or want her in any shape or form- and in fact hates her... he has indeed been truthful to her. And Im glad. In fact I want him to demean and insult her even more- I want to see how much she will stoop to be close to him- whatever "close" means at this point. And I say this in all seriousness- Riya WOULD do well to pick herself up off of shanti sadan's floor, go get her job back, earn a salary again, move in with Bunty and be roomates and bloody well grow up. Stop living under daddy's roof OR Shanti's roof, get a place of her own and just grow up and do something for herself for once. Move with the times for heavens sake. She will find another guy worth her time eventually if she just stopped grasping at this loser who clearly doesn't want or need her. Bunty is like her sister- I honestly don't see what the big deal is about her confiding in her. If it weren't for her, she would have no one to talk to but her dad- and who tells their dad anything really, especially when it comes to matters of the heart?? She certainly doesn't have any SILs who want to have anything to do with her. Yes she should have spoke to Shivam etc- but he wasn't exactly all ears open. She had made an effort to speak to him before- he exploded in her face. What effort did he make to keep his anger in check, if only for her sake? Not once. So what, is she meant to just take and take his BS until she is his pet turtle? Anyway, they are both immature and pathetic though- I agree that neither of them have made adult decisions.
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