Muharram: The Month of ALLAH - Page 22

Originally posted by: hukshila

ameen for dua, its all Allah's blessings that you acknowledge my posts, i m glad i m able to add in your knowledge Alhamdulilah (all the praise is for Allah)

U r most welcome but no thanks 🤗

ameen for prayers

hope your fasts went well,

i'll insha'Allah (if Allah wants), you are also requested to remember me in prayers

Originally posted by: hukshila

my dear, if you read it properly, the ahadith were mentioning the importacne / significience of Ashurah, if you check on first page, it did mention that the fast of Ashurah was important in pre-islamic days, it was obligatory before the fasts of Ramadan. Prophet Musa Peace be Upon Him and His nation got rid of pharao on this day. Even the Ashurah's fast was important for the non-muslims (Quryash) in pre islamic period. I also mentioned the crucial incident of Karbla with Hussain May Allah be pleased Him and his family. what else you think left from mentioning? 🤔

Mourning is forbidden in Islam and Quran told that Shaheeds / martyers are alive so i m unable to understand the concept of mourning, yet my post doesn't deal with non islamic teachings here, as i do mention only what is in Quran o Ahadith.

there are many ahdith but i m not going to quote all of them as the answer will be much longer and there are many pending to reply till this time

Narrated by Muhammad bin Sirin " One of the sons of Um 'Atiyya died, and when it was the third day she asked for a yellow perfume and put it over her body, and said, "We were forbidden to mourn for more than three days except for our husbands." (Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Number 369)

Here you can see by yourself martyrs are alive and given food from Allah but we don't have the understanding of it


And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord, receiving provision (Quran 3:169)

what i said was the original importance of Ashura which did include Karbla incident of 61 AH and that's i wanted to say about it. the purpose of the post is to inform people that Muharram is sacred since the ancient time when the world was made and its original importance is not mourning.

at the end still Jezak Allah o khair (May Allah give you best reward) for liking my post

i hope i answer your question?

Originally posted by: hukshila

my dear, if you read it properly, the ahadith were mentioning the importacne / significience of Ashurah, if you check on first page, it did mention that the fast of Ashurah was important in pre-islamic days, it was obligatory before the fasts of Ramadan. Prophet Musa Peace be Upon Him and His nation got rid of pharao on this day. Even the Ashurah's fast was important for the non-muslims (Quryash) in pre islamic period. I also mentioned the crucial incident of Karbla with Hussain May Allah be pleased Him and his family. what else you think left from mentioning? 🤔

Mourning is forbidden in Islam and Quran told that Shaheeds / martyers are alive so i m unable to understand the concept of mourning, yet my post doesn't deal with non islamic teachings here, as i do mention only what is in Quran o Ahadith.

there are many ahdith but i m not going to quote all of them as the answer will be much longer and there are many pending to reply till this time

Narrated by Muhammad bin Sirin " One of the sons of Um 'Atiyya died, and when it was the third day she asked for a yellow perfume and put it over her body, and said, "We were forbidden to mourn for more than three days except for our husbands." (Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Number 369)

Here you can see by yourself martyrs are alive and given food from Allah but we don't have the understanding of it


And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord, receiving provision (Quran 3:169)

what i said was the original importance of Ashura which did include Karbla incident of 61 AH and that's i wanted to say about it. the purpose of the post is to inform people that Muharram is sacred since the ancient time when the world was made and its original importance is not mourning.

at the end still Jezak Allah o khair (May Allah give you best reward) for liking my post

i hope i answer your question?

Originally posted by: SaraPari

Hushkila

we are not only talking about mourning on this day

you could have talked about his sacrifice . his family's sacrifice. that was one of the main significant incident of ashura ( i am surprised how come you didnt mention it much )

thats it,

Originally posted by: -Predator

Hey Hushkila,

Thank you for the response, although I disagree with you.

I am a convert- I was a Hindu born, and I converted to be Shia Muslim a few years ago.

The preachings you are talking of above ^, are different compared to what I have learnt.

Muharram is the month of Mourning, the Qur'an says that the one who mourns/sheds tears for Husayn in this Holy month, is a blessed soul. YES, it does say that one shouldn't mourn BUT for worldly stuff. Mourning for the sacrifice of Imam Husayn and his family is actually encouraged.

Once again, I respect your point of view, because we are both taught different things. Thank you for all the information.

Cheers!

😊

Originally posted by: SaraPari

I agree with you . i wish everyone could undertand that !!! the people who shed tears for hussain(a.s) are blessed . even when prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him ) use to think of incident of karabala . he would shed tears. and how can we say this month is not for mourning .

BTW sonia i didnt knew you are a convert god bless you girl. i respect you more now 😳

Originally posted by: -Predator-

Thank you Sara! 😳

Yeah, I converted after learning the message of Imam Husayn (as).

Muharram touched my heart, after my best friend narrated the incidents, and I read various books which proved the legit narrations from the Qur'an. So yes! 😃

Oh thats great ! Imam Husayn (a.s) the saviour of islam. may his followers be blessed

Originally posted by: SaraPari

I agree with you . i wish everyone could undertand that !!! the people who shed tears for hussain(a.s) are blessed . even when prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him ) use to think of incident of karabala . he would shed tears. and how can we say this month is not for mourning .

BTW sonia i didnt knew you are a convert god bless you girl. i respect you more now 😳

Originally posted by: -Alina-

@predator:- AOA, great to know you a convert. God bless you !

And I agree what I have learnt (I'm born Shia,Syed) is entirely different from this post ! But as topic maker have given reference to Quran so obviously it couldn't be wrong ! And yes We(Shias) exists because we have to mourn in this month. And yes some people thinks that Moharram is only for 1month but let me tell you it's not only for a month, we mourn for 2 months n 8 days. And I know some people do say that if we were born to mourn then why we don't mourn entire year, so for their knowledge let me tell you that the same question was asked to Bibi Zainab(A.S), obviously she lost her whole family in that incident so she used to cry whole day and night. Then on 9th Rabi-ul-awal, just for the sake of Us(Shias) she stopped that mourning, I don't know what it's called in English but in Urdu we say "soug utarna". Therefore this whole yearly mourning was cut to 2months and 8 days!

I hope I am making some Sense!

Alina Zaidi

Imam Sajjad would constantly cry and mourn for what had taken place on the day of Ashura during the years he was the Imam of the Ummah. He cried so much to the extent that he was known as and called one of the "Bakka'een" (those who cried very much).[4]

Alqame Hadrami relates that Imam Baqir (as) would gather people in his house on the day of Ashura to cry and mourn, and the Imam himself would cry for his grandfather. There was no Taqiyyah involved and he would tell those in the house to cry for Imam Hossein and to express their condolences to each other on the day of his martyrdom.[5]

On one occasion Imam Sadiq told Dawood Ruqi: "I have never drunk cold water without remembering Imam Hossein."[6]

It is narrated in a hadith that Imam Reza said: "When the month of Muharram would arrive no one would see my father (Imam Kazim) smile and sadness and sorrow would take over him until the day of Ashura. The tenth day of Muharram was the day of sorrow and sadness and tragedy and he would say: Today is the day in which Imam Hossein was martyred.

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