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Posted: 3 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

Thank you for explaining the sacrilege. I get it now.

Tanz ko side pe rakkho and did anyone like the way it was shown and handled


I just hated what and how they showed it

it was very insensitive of Pallavi to prank him that you cannot become a father

Raghav cannot beome a father = she can't get pregnant naturally

it was extreme

if it was shown that he could have problems and should stop drinking

it would have been better

couples sometimes break up if they can't get pregnant I know you can adopt or try other ways but it takes a toll on them and some do break up

raghav insisted on knowing it then and there but she could have said lets talk in private

infertility

forced marriage

choosing your patner; if he is the wrong one how family should deal with it

you can't stop an adult from making the wrong choice but cn always assure if you fall we are there to pick you up we are by your side

nothing was sown the right way

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Posted: 3 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: Chahat_A_Doshi

Tanz ko side pe rakkho and did anyone like the way it was shown and handled


I just hated what and how they showed it

it was very insensitive of Pallavi to prank him that you cannot become a father

Raghav cannot beome a father = she can't get pregnant naturally

it was extreme

if it was shown that he could have problems and should stop drinking

it would have been better

couples sometimes break up if they can't get pregnant I know you can adopt or try other ways but it takes a toll on them and some do break up

raghav insisted on knowing it then and there but she could have said lets talk in private

infertility

forced marriage

choosing your patner; if he is the wrong one how family should deal with it

you can't stop an adult from making the wrong choice but cn always assure if you fall we are there to pick you up we are by your side

nothing was sown the right way

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Posted: 3 years ago
#13

October 2: Raghav mispronounces the Saṃskṛta mantra for Vāstu-Puruṣa like this:


namas te Vāstu

Puruśaya bhūśaya

bhirat prabho

mad-griyaṃ dhan-dhany'ādi

samriddhaṃ kuru sarvadā


This is gibberish. If you don't know what the words mean, it's not a sincere prayer!


I think the scripts are written in Roman alphabet (like English) without diacritical marks, so the actors have to guess which Indian vowels to use ("ṛ" gets mispronounced as "ri"), they can't distinguish the sibilants "ś" and "ṣ" (both transliterated as "sh"), and if they can't ask someone who knows whichever Indian language, they're lost.


Correct recitation of the mantra would be in śloka metre (eight syllables per line; first line is a nonstandard na-vipulā):


namas te Vāstu-Puruṣa!

bhū-śayyā'bhirata! prabho!

mad-gṛhaṃ dhana-dhāny'ādi-

samṛddhaṃ kuru sarvadā


I bow to you, Building Personified!

Lord, whose comfortable bed is this site!

Always make my house replete

With valuables, grains, etc.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#14

I hadn't watched the October 5 episode before: Raghav, anticipating his blood test results, tells Kirti that he won't live to see her child grow up, but Pallavi uses a biscuit to convince Raghav that he's impotent. Now that I've watched it, I don't find it offensive, just illogical, cruel, and unfunny.


If a character actually had erectile dysfunction or low sperm count, and the show made fun of that character or villainized him for his condition, I would find it offensive, just as I would find it offensive if the show made fun of Vijay for his weak heart, Sharada for being paralyzed, or the real Svapnil for losing an eye. However, Pallavi telling Raghav that he'll never be a father is like Raghav telling Pallavi that he doesn't remember her. It's presented as a devastating prank, so it's not the show giving viewers the wrong impression about serious topics like infertility or amnesia.


That's just my opinion, and I'm happy to read yours.


By the way, I noticed that the doctor who gave Kirti the pregnancy test was the same actress as Dr. Janaki who treated Mandar after the hit-and-run. She had lost the vibhūti and straightened her hair.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#15

October 12: Raghav meets Sumit, a man who has forced his ex-wife into his car (the way Raghav forced Pallavi into his car many times), traumatized her and caused a cut on her forehead (the way Pallavi looked after Raghav kept her freezing in his house and made her run to stop the bulldozer). Sumit talks to his ex-wife exactly like Raghav to Pallavi, mocking her ability and warning her not to awaken the beast in him. Sumit is ready to beat up anyone who might be his woman's boyfriend (just as Raghav beat Akash and Sunny). Ironically, Raghav, who already slapped this woman when she broke up with him, demands to know why she chose such a cheap man when she could have had Raghav. Raghav, who has already tried to strangle this woman for doing him a favour, now grabs her wrist and yanks, demanding to know why she ruined his life, as if what he did to himself and his family was her fault. Raghav's toxic attitude, that he gets to decide if his girlfriend had a valid reason to leave him, and she owed it to him to stay with him, is normalized by the show.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#16

October 15: Pallavi says that Raghav is asleep; she kisses his cheek and cuddles on his chest while he is unable to give consent. The show suggests that Pallavi's actions didn't violate Raghav because he opens his eyes, remembers getting drunk with another woman, and holds Pallavi's hand. In the October 13 episode, Raghav opened his eyes and called that other woman Pallavi, and squeezed her hand while she kissed his mouth. The show retcons Raghav's infidelity as a violation by telling us that Raghav was drugged and the woman slept on the couch.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#17

October 16: Raghav finds a woman gagged and tied to a chair. Raghav, who knows her ex-husband's physical strength, and that she made a police complaint against him for stalking her, asks, "Why do you accept this? You were bold when I knew you. How did you become so weak?" The woman agrees with Raghav's victim-shaming and tells him that she lost her self-esteem except during the night that Raghav spent with her. Total male chauvinism!

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Posted: 3 years ago
#18

It is amazing that the TM finds every action of Raghav wrong but I have not seen any actions of Mandar being listed here. Mandar was obsessive psycho person who did wrong by Pallavi, by Devyani, by Aayi and cheated his own family just because he couldn't get over his lust over Pallavi. Knowing that Pallavi has declared that she accepts Raghav as her husband every action of Mandar was a violation of Pallavi's wish


- Mandar acting like a petulant child and not eating/locking himself in his room so as to force Pallavi to come home

- Mandar during Satyanarayana Puja saying his is married and his family hoping/forcing Pallavi to sit in the puja. Here not only is Mandar wrong, Sulo, Mansi, Vijay everyone is wrong because Pallavi was not Mandar's wife at that time both legally as well as by Pallavi's own admission

- Mandar doing the emotional manipulation - texting at night when he knows that Pallavi might be with her husband, Coming next day and taking away Pallavi for a day, slyly switching off her phone

- Mandar drugging the kheer and carrying off Pallavi when she was not in her senses - making her sleep on his lap. I didn't know that Pallavi consented to that


Oh the list is long. Every action and every scene of Mandar can be termed as offensive. Since you are writing each action of Raghav in such long and detailed manner, I am amused that you did not find any of Mandar's actions as offensive.


Anyway I am not in this for debate just listing few of the scenes I found extremely offensive. Even most of the audience found it offensive hence Mandar track was rejected by the audience and the trps never increased. Had the creatives done the Mandar track in a more sensible manner, the show would have been still on air.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: PSharada

It is amazing that the TM finds every action of Raghav wrong but I have not seen any actions of Mandar being listed here. Mandar was obsessive psycho person who did wrong by Pallavi, by Devyani, by Aayi and cheated his own family just because he couldn't get over his lust over Pallavi. Knowing that Pallavi has declared that she accepts Raghav as her husband every action of Mandar was a violation of Pallavi's wish


- Mandar acting like a petulant child and not eating/locking himself in his room so as to force Pallavi to come home

- Mandar during Satyanarayana Puja saying his is married and his family hoping/forcing Pallavi to sit in the puja. Here not only is Mandar wrong, Sulo, Mansi, Vijay everyone is wrong because Pallavi was not Mandar's wife at that time both legally as well as by Pallavi's own admission

- Mandar doing the emotional manipulation - texting at night when he knows that Pallavi might be with her husband, Coming next day and taking away Pallavi for a day, slyly switching off her phone

- Mandar drugging the kheer and carrying off Pallavi when she was not in her senses - making her sleep on his lap. I didn't know that Pallavi consented to that


Oh the list is long. Every action and every scene of Mandar can be termed as offensive. Since you are writing each action of Raghav in such long and detailed manner, I am amused that you did not find any of Mandar's actions as offensive.


Anyway I am not in this for debate just listing few of the scenes I found extremely offensive. Even most of the audience found it offensive hence Mandar track was rejected by the audience and the trps never increased. Had the creatives done the Mandar track in a more sensible manner, the show would have been still on air.

You missed the point. This thread is not about criticizing any character. It's about examples of the show making fun of a sensitive issue, profaning something sacred, misinforming viewers, or "sending the wrong message."


Most examples of what happened on the show will have something to do with the lead characters who got the most screentime. Mandar was a villain, so the show didn't glorify whatever Mandar did wrong. You can write about any character, or ignore the purpose of the thread, which is debate, but if you come here to attack me for not thinking like you, here's a helpful link for you:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/mehndi-hai-rachne-wali/5221309/mhrw-forum-rules-and-regulations-updated-30-8-21

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Posted: 3 years ago
#20

I'm curious: was anyone offended by Raghav declaring that he would perform agni-parīkṣā? The show half-heartedly censored this word, dubbing in pyāra-parīkṣā in a couple of scenes but using the uncensored declaration in a flashback.


Do any viewers who visit India Forums actually think that Raghav's version of agni-parīkṣā was an insult to Sītā or to Hinduism?


I didn't find it offensive. And the dubbed dialogue, "Until today, only women have performed pyāra-parīkṣā," made no sense. Ordeals such as agni-parīkṣā to prove chastity had nothing to do with whether a woman felt romantic love for her husband - pyāra (a modern Hindi word) or rāga (a Saṃskṛta word that approximates the same meaning). These ordeals were imposed following accusations that a woman was impure, and their purpose was to kill or repudiate the unwanted woman.


I found it more offensive that Mandar once swore to get Pallavi "or I'm not the offspring of one father." Demeaning anyone by accusing his mother of adultery is misogynistic and indecent language. Society should outgrow it, and it shouldn't have a place on TV.

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