MHRW Episode Discussion Thread #72 - Page 55

Originally posted by: fria319

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While logically I get this based on what they did show before todays episode.

The dialogues they gave him today implies a bit otherwise. I'm not talking about first love v. current love. I'm hung up on his use of the words "soulmate" and "perfect partner".

Maybe I want the writers to be more nuanced - but I don't think saying things like "she was my soulmate" "she was my perfect partner" about your ex to your wife is the smartest or best way to describe an ex that you supposedly have no feelings for anymore.

He should've said "at the time, I thought she was my soulmate". That implies that she was his soulmate in that period of life before Pallavi bc he hadn't met Pallavi yet.

I wholeheartedly admit I could be nitpicking here.

But those are heavy words - "she was my soulmate" What, does he think he can have two soulmates? That doesn't even make sense. If your soulmate is the one sitting across from you right now (his wife), would you tell them "i used to have another soulmate". Like? IDK. The words used implied it was bc of circumstances that E could no longer be his soulmate or perfect partner. And I just didn't vibe with that implication because if that circumstance is reversed, and any MU is cleared between E & R, is E now his perfect partner again? Is she again his soulmate?

He wasn't thinking of being smart or tactful at all. He just let out what his raw feelings were, that he'd been trying to put a lid on since he saw Esha again.

I watched the scene twice and clearly he was talking about how he felt then that she was his soulmate and perfect partner so when she left him it broke him. The thing is, he hasn't moved on from that feeling of betrayal and that won't happen until he forgives her because he'll keep letting his hatred cloud his judgement.

In the dining table scene, even if it was just a couple of lines, he made it very clear where Esha and Pallavi stood in his life. I'd use that as a point of reference.

Also consider this. What if Raghav had been a widower? Would him talking about his first wife as being his perfect partner and soulmate bother us that much?

This track is reminding me so much of Punar Vivah where the ML was a widower who loved his first wife like crazy. He remarried for the sake of the kids but over time he fell in love with her too. He didn't stop loving his first wife and the second one made a different place in his heart. It's not about replacement.

In Esha's case it's a bit different because she betrayed him (or so he thinks), and she's still alive. Raghav loves Pallavi and considers her to be his present and future. Once he gets closure after finding out the truth about Esha, His current memories of their time together have been colored by her betrayal and have made him question his self-worth in terms of money and status and he doesn't want to be sucked into that quicksand again. The day he knows the truth, the memories will be colored differently and he'll be able to move on. I expect he will just remember her as a memory of the person who shaped his present and future.

Anyway, this is my read of the situation but I respect that people have different interpretations.

Originally posted by: Wilddreams

Yeah it looks like a promo😔

Raghav is constantly lying to Pallavi 😡

He is willing to go to jail but not work with her What about Pallavi

Raghav's Impulsive behavior 👎🏼How he built big empire with that attitude 🤪

Kirti stopped eating sunny's pasta finally and got her brain cells back 🤣

Raghav said Ex dumping him was worst day of his life but he is contradicting his earlier story about Death of his brother and father was the worst day

Ex was his soulmate according to Raghav

Raghav is on borderline emotional infidelity towards Pallavi which i don't like 😡

Why i don't see anyone calling Raghav as two timer or tasting his past and present??

Pallavi ko toh yeh sab bola tha na when she was even cristal clear about her feelings and was very transparent with Raghav 😆

Men are allowed to have a past but women will be judged for having one. Hypocrisy at its best 👏

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Why the comparison in the first place? It was a nasty atmosphere when it happened during the Mandaar track with Pallavi. People should have learned from that and not do it in this track or any other track for that matter. Personally for me it's not about whether these things are being said about the ML or the FL. Crossing the lines of decency isn't ok in any situation. It was disgusting then and caused the forum to lose a lot of members and I personally don't want to see a repeat of that.

Also, I respectfully want to say that by bringing this up it hurts people like me who feel we are being painted with the same brush as those who were saying such things here or on social media. I know that it's impossible to keep track of what comments specific members have made in various posts or to follow a person's line of thinking. That's why I request that you also think about those of us who can put aside our love for a specific character and remain unbiased and call people out when the FL or other characters are being bashed in an inappropriate manner.

Originally posted by: Salutethearmy

RS has finalised Harshad for YRKKH, mera dimag phele se hi karab hai. Looks like the dialogue writers are interchanged. The writers who wrote all the bakwas dialogues for Pallavi during the Raghav Sudharo Mission is currently writing for the ML

I feel she won't be jealous but might understand why Raghav is so crazy about money and who is actually responsible for making him the way he is.

I thought that show was ending?

Originally posted by: gayatherry88

Sahu 🤣🤣

Are ha. What if Pals had cried so much in Mandar's memory?. Because she had married him and according to her Mandy was an accha insaan. Yes they were together for a short period of time but atleast somewhere she would have dreamt of a happy life with him.

If Pals was there in RR's place today, I can just imagine the uproar!.

Pallavi was bashed after her action and raghav is getting after theory by fans mostly

Not only raghav but sai also getting bashed and some fans are pointing finger at his character that he is in real life with cheap mentality and this is the reason he tone down his interaction with fans and that too by tagging him

Sai you are cancelled from now on blah blah

Raghav is also getting bashed since days and today also he is getting bashed.

He is not getting free pass

Originally posted by: Owia

So, can we conclude -Both Pals and Raghav are two timers ,right?

Seedhi baat no bakwaas 😆

Originally posted by: inlieu

He wasn't thinking of being smart or tactful at all. He just let out what his raw feelings were, that he'd been trying to put a lid on since he saw Esha again.

I watched the scene twice and clearly he was talking about how he felt then that she was his soulmate and perfect partner so when she left him it broke him. The thing is, he hasn't moved on from that feeling of betrayal and that won't happen until he forgives her because he'll keep letting his hatred cloud his judgement.

In the dining table scene, even if it was just a couple of lines, he made it very clear where Esha and Pallavi stood in his life. I'd use that as a point of reference.

Also consider this. What if Raghav had been a widower? Would him talking about his first wife as being his perfect partner and soulmate bother us that much?

This track is reminding me so much of Punar Vivah where the ML was a widower who loved his first wife like crazy. He remarried for the sake of the kids but over time he fell in love with her too. He didn't stop loving his first wife and the second one made a different place in his heart. It's not about replacement.

In Esha's case it's a bit different because she betrayed him (or so he thinks), and she's still alive. Raghav loves Pallavi and considers her to be his present and future. Once he gets closure after finding out the truth about Esha, His current memories of their time together have been colored by her betrayal and have made him question his self-worth in terms of money and status and he doesn't want to be sucked into that quicksand again. The day he knows the truth, the memories will be colored differently and he'll be able to move on. I expect he will just remember her as a memory of the person who shaped his present and future.

Anyway, this is my read of the situation but I respect that people have different interpretations.

I think for me it's different because now E is in his life whereas the dining table talk - it was more out of sight, out of mind for him.

But yeah I think we just have different interpretations of how the last scene played out.

I also saw Punar Vivah - so I get what you're saying.

But as you said the difference is E is around. I think that's why it's so much worse for him to talk like that about his ex - it's because she's not gone. She's still around. And the way she was spoken about - it wasn't like the relationship just ended because they both decided they weren't the right partners for each other. It was because of circumstance and bad choices.

@bold: While I think what you said is how it's going to go bc this is a show about RaghavPallavi - I just don't like the way the writers are getting there. MHRW tends to have a disconnect IMO between some of the dialogue of the characters and what actually happens in the plot. I'm just going to have to eventually bhool bhool his dialogues today bc I know he'll never let Pallavi go.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I thought that show was ending?

nope. new leads / new gen story

Originally posted by: ...EhSaas...

Pallavi was bashed after her action and raghav is getting after theory by fans mostly

Not only raghav but sai also getting bashed and some fans are pointing finger at his character that he is in real life with cheap mentality and this is the reason he tone down his interaction with fans and that too by tagging him

Sai you are cancelled from now on blah blah

Raghav is also getting bashed since days and today also he is getting bashed.

He is not getting free pass

Jaya, what are you saying re? Why is Ketan getting bashed? I understand Raghav will be bashed mercilessly but why Ketan? He’s doing an amazing job with brilliant acting..

Originally posted by: ...EhSaas...

Pallavi was bashed after her action and raghav is getting after theory by fans mostly

Not only raghav but sai also getting bashed and some fans are pointing finger at his character that he is in real life with cheap mentality and this is the reason he tone down his interaction with fans and that too by tagging him

Sai you are cancelled from now on blah blah

Raghav is also getting bashed since days and today also he is getting bashed.

He is not getting free pass

I just wish people could stop confusing reel with real. Like, I honestly don't understand what runs through people's head when they come for the cast about these things??