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Posted: 4 years ago
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Yesterday I didn't realize at what point during the entire narration of his past, I felt like I got a lump in my throat.. He totally made me feel for the young Raghav all those years back who first hand saw and personally faced attrocities at the hands of our society which still has a class,caste and socio-economic divide. A young boy bullied throughout school, somewhere deep down made him hate the fact that they were poor. It may not seem like a huge deal but for young, impressionable minds who see everyone around him live a comfortable life, when his family has to struggle for the basic human amenties like food, shelter and education.. it impacts your very basic thought process and your overall personality .. The humiliation and trauma he must have felt on seeing his father being treated like a dog for a handful of money, can only be imagined. The desperation to make it big, by hook or crook, didnt come overnight.. It happened over the years of facing extreme deprivation and humiliation that pushed him down this path where only the ends mattered not the means. He was ambitious and driven and wanted to break the status quo but along the way inadvertently swayed from the path of morality and righteousness which cost him a lifetime of pain,guilt and trauma that he still seems to reeling under..


Im glad they kept it this way.. he made conscious decisions albeit wrong and unaware of the repercussions..He is aware of the irreperable damage his actions have cost the family but there is nothing he can do to undo the past besides apologise which he has been relentlessly doing for the past 10years. His prosecution by his family, has kept the wounds raw for everyone which is why none of them could move on from that fateful day. Its only when they will be able to forgive him on grounds of the fact that while his actions were wrong, his intentions were not..Only then will he be able to forgive himself..


Sai really put his heart and soul into the scene and it showed. Pallavi's reaction throughout the entire scene, especially the bit where she gets to know how his father and brother got lynched to death and in the end when she walks out of the room, to process everything she heard, was very realistic.


I have a feeling that Krishna Rao fled to Kolhapur and somehow Pallavi and Mandhar were his next victims.

Edited by MistyDawn - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: inlieu

I am so glad that they showed us a backstory that is believable and not outlandish. I could totally imagine everything just from the way he narrated things, even without flashbacks. I am also glad that Raghav was indeed at fault to some extent, i.e. it wasn't a whole misunderstanding where he was doodh ka dhula and Amma was blaming him for no reason. I also feel that there's just he right balance of mistakes on both sides to also give Amma a redemption arc of her own because while Raghav made mistakes, he did not have evil intentions and in his youth he slipped up. She alienated him further and further, and her parenting seems to have been less than 100%.


After hearing his side of the story, I now want to hear Amma's side because only then will the picture be complete. That woman is holding a lot of pain and grief in her heart with no one to speak to about it. It's a topic that she doesn't even want to bring up, and seeing Raghav must be like a constant reminder of the terrible past. She briefly told him how she doesn't want to remember that day, but I think we need a mother-son only moment where it all comes out and all emotions and thoughts are in the open (minus Pallavi being there, please).


I am curious, did they shoot all those mob scenes early on in the show but not telecast them now? That's what it seems like, because they can't shoot with crowds these days.


I don't believe Amma has a story. She believes that Raghav stole the money from the villagers and didn't return, which costed her the lives of her husband and son. This is true as well. But if she atleast tried to ask him what actually happened and why he had to do what he did, things could have atleast grown better over years.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

God, my heart broke for Raghav today. This was the first time anyone cared to ask his side of the story, and actually listen without prejudice. 10 whole years of keeping this bottled up. He really needed to get it all out once he started, which is why he never let Pallavi comfort him. He was so close to his breaking point, if he allowed it, he'd probably not be able to go on. How he managed to get up from that state, dress up, and land up at Sunny's- both physically and mentally- is completely beyond me. What a fantastic demonstration of fortitude.

@bold I felt the same. Great choice to have a bit of distance between Pallavi and him, almost as if reinforcing the fact that she was listening to his side of the story impartially.

Not the typical, sobbing through the entire story in her arms scene, which I am so grateful for. This show just gets better and better.

And yes, him getting up to deal with Sunny despite his grief shows how tough he is but I guess he's had to be, to fight inner and outer demons all alone these years. No wonder Farhad has so much respect for him. I love seeing the fact that while his emotions, especially on this matter, make him vulnerable, they are in no way his weakness. Rather, I feel they make him stronger despite the constant battles with his guilty conscience. Again, props to the writers for throwing this on the face of all the toxic masculinity we see around us. It's a recurring subtle theme that I applaud writers for. Men can cry, be emotional, but need to also own up for their mistakes. Raghav knows what he's done and never denies it.

Edited by inlieu - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: BlueJayFire


I don't believe Amma has a story. She believes that Raghav stole the money from the villagers and didn't return, which costed her the lives of her husband and son. This is true as well. But if she atleast tried to ask him what actually happened and why he had to do what he did, things could have atleast grown better over years.

If they really want to make the story pathbreaking they should come up with something for Amma's side of the story. I have a feeling Amma does know what he actually did and where he fell weak to the temptation of earning money quickly but it's easy for her to blame him for everything, rather than their circumstances.

Edited by inlieu - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

I think after this episode, Raghav is sure she won't want to stay with him long term so he wants to ensure she has her previous home to go back to. Little does he know. I suspect she picked up the broom to hit him after finding out what went down at the Ds.

I was glad to see Raghav back in his don avatar trying to put Sanki in his place and frankly I always enjoy their fights. Anyway, looks like Raghav is done being sweet with his useless in-laws. I hope BWA will diffuse the situation - I'd love to see her squirm doing Raghav's bidding in pacifying Sanki and effectively helping Pallavi in the end. 😆

Damn, I was so distracted by Vijay's new bakwaas, I missed Raghav's attitude in the precap 😂😅

Just watched it again after reading this post, and yeah, good to see him back. I am happy to have them fight again, enough of putting up with the sanak. I hope you're right, and this new approach is here to stay. It'll be hilarious if Sulochana is blackmailed into peacemaking, add some much needed lightness to the Deshmukh scenes 😆

I understand Raghav's headspace, he's caught up in his own insecurities and not thinking very clearly, so his action in going back there, I disagree with it, but I get it. You can't threaten someone into mending a broken relationship, and Raghav had understood how messed up and broken this all was even before Pallavi did, but he's reeling from pain and desperate to at least right things for Pallavi. I just wish they hadn't gone so over the top with Vijay, he's seeming almost cartoonishly evil now, and it's getting really hard to watch, personally. I love the sasur-damaad attitude wars, but it's felt way too uneven for far too long. I guess it's because Raghav can't take his gloves off, out of respect for Pallavi, and Vijay has no such consideration for anyone at the moment.

And lol, not that I'm one for domestic abuse, but iss baat ke liye Pallavi ka jhaadu uthana chalega mujhe, at least as a threat. Laaton ke bhoot baaton se nahi maante. Usne bola bhi, stop doing all this, Vijay is blind with anger right now. Yeh gaddha phir pohonch gaya wahaan 🤦🏻‍♀️ I'd pick up a jhaadu if I were her too 😅

Edited by aye-masakalii - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

Damn, I was so distracted by Vijay's new bakwaas, I missed Raghav's attitude in the precap 😂😅

Just watched it again after reading this post, and yeah, good to see him back. I am happy to have them fight again, enough of putting up with the sanak. I hope you're right, and this new approach is here to stay. It'll be hilarious if Sulochana is blackmailed into peacemaking, add some much needed lightness to the Deshmukh scenes 😆

I understand Raghav's headspace, he's caught up in his own insecurities and not thinking very clearly, so his action in going back there, I disagree with it, but I get it. You can't threaten someone into mending a broken relationship, and Raghav had understood how messed up and broken this all was even before Pallavi did, but he's reeling from pain and desperate to at least right things for Pallavi. I just wish they hadn't gone so over the top with Vijay, he's seeming almost cartoonishly evil now, and it's getting really hard to watch, personally. I love the sasur-damaad attitude wars, but it's felt way too uneven for far too long. I guess it's because Raghav can't take his gloves off, out of respect for Pallavi, and Vijay has no such consideration for anyone at the moment.

And lol, not that I'm one for domestic abuse, but iss baat ke liye Pallavi ka jhaadu uthana chalega mujhe, at least as a threat. Laaton ke bhoot baaton se nahi maante. Usne bola bhi, stop doing all this, Vijay is blind with anger right now. Yeh gaddha phir pohonch gaya wahaan 🤦🏻‍♀️ I'd pick up a jhaadu if I were her too 😅

Yes and he will enjoy the pitai with jhadu...

Pallavi ye kya ker rha hai tum

Aao

Ouch

Mere ko lag rha hai..

Amma bachao mjhe..

Bus SKD..

"Pallavi holding the collar"

Ragahv getting naughty

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: BlueJayFire


All of us are..The pain of Raghav seeing his dad in the state...Its sending shivers down me..How he must have been shattered...It brought me back to the begin of episodes of Raghav..The stone hearted person..I could connect to him. In spite of this pain, hatred, how he is deep within a very kind hearted, reminded me of the kelvan ..zaroorat people ko daan dene aaya hai mein.

I think raghav’s back story actually summed up this whole raghav rao persona.. every single thing.. his arrogance, insensitivity, money mindedness, his benevolence- he has suffered too much and he wherever possible just trying to ease another poor person suffering.

Also, am glad that there was no girl involved in his backstory.. i think using a girl/woman betrayal and that one incident is used to explain the personality change of the male lead is the most cliched trope on itv. A thumbs up to the writers here for sticking to having him commit a wrong, have him accept it as well and make him suffer the repercussions of his wrong actions.. but it was done in a way where why he chose to do the wrong made sense

Many members seem to be talking about His distrust on women not being addressed in his past story but i think it can very easily be explained when In the first epi, he says that women come to him for the money he has. And that seems to linger on his mind from time to time..

Edited by Lonelythots - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lonelythots

I think raghav’s back story actually summed up this whole raghav rao persona.. every single thing.. his arrogance, insensitivity, money mindedness, his benevolence- he has suffered too much and he wherever possible just trying to ease another poor person suffering.

Also, am glad that there was no girl involved in his backstory.. i think using a girl/woman betrayal and that one incident is used to explain the personality change of the male lead is the most cliched trope on itv. A thumbs up to the writers here for sticking to having him commit a wrong, have him accept it as well and make him suffer the repercussions of his wrong actions.. but it was done in a way where why he chose to do the wrong made sense

Many members seem to be talking about His distrust on women not being addressed in his past story but i think it can very easily be explained when In the first epi, he says that women come to him for the money he has. And that seems to linger on his mind from time to time..

I completely agree. For once we have backstory that does justice to all our imaginations and hypothesis on why he turned out that way. It's clear that it was very well thought through and explains why Sai is able to deliver it so convincingly, why he can convincingly become Raghav Rao, and why his scenes and his emotions resonate with the audience. It's rare to see lead characters written with so much depth, so I am really impressed with the forethought of writers.

@bold I'm still wondering about that, though because in the scene where he is in the replica house and crying about his past (where he cuts his foot) he tells Farhad pretty clearly that it's because of a girl and he hates their very existence. It's possible that that's a different incident. I am sure Krishna Rao isn't the only one who betrayed him in the past, but since the immediate topic was about what happened between Amma and him, he focused on that.


There might be other things in his past that they will reveal gradually, including his hatred of women. It all depends when the writers want to pull things out from their stockpile in order to move the story forward, and since he's such a layered character, it will work just fine. While I want Pallavi to support him wholeheartedly through all this and future events, I don't want her becoming the mahaan FL that fixes things in his family. I want him to do it himself, perhaps with her guidance, starting off with him being able to forgive himself first.

Edited by inlieu - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Now it makes so much more sense why Raghav was so affected during and after the 'maar daalo mujhe Raghav' scene. Can you imagine what he went through, especially when he was saying he wasn't a murderer, that he was a good man? Similarly, why he was frantically searching for Pallavi earlier in the show when he thought something had happened to her on the way to Bangalore?

I want to applaud the writers again for placing these key moments across multiple episodes so that the whole narrative comes together holistically. 👏

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

This was one of the most highly anticipated scene in the show and I am so glad it lived up to expectations. Sai's performance today was mindblowing and it broke my heart.


Pallavi is so in love with him, she doesn't even realize. Her soul has already recognized its mate in him, that's why she couldn't hold her emotions anymore and walked out of the room to cry in private.


Since Raghav was finally able to let out everything that was bottled up, I expect he would feel a bit more lighthearted. Keerti doesn't deserve his generosity and love as a brother, who after all this painful conversation, still shows up at Sunny's to protect her.


Sanki is losing his mind. I don't know why Ayi isn't there but she'd never let him do this if she could help it. Let's see if BWA does Raghav's work for him, though judging by the precap she's probably loving every minute of it. Somehow, revealing his past to Pallavi has unleashed the beast in Raghav and I am frankly glad to see his aggressive tone with Sanki. After what she learned about his Naana, I don't think she'd ever expect or allow Raghav to do what Sanki was asking for. Will be interesting to see what Raghav does because after the past is out, he will be even more determined to right his wrong with the Ds. I had a feeling he would insist on going back to living in that house, and that's what's happening.


I liked that Raghav for the first time spoke seriously and respectfully about Mandaar, and he's going to file that information away for later that Pallavi never got a chance to love him and that something else happened. I don't know why but I'm expecting her to break down a lot harder than what we saw of Raghav today.


Kudos to Sai and Shivangi for that execution. I only wish the Keerti and Sunny scenes had been left to next episode so that the flow wouldn't be disturbed but I get that they are trying to show that with all the problems around them Raghav and Pallavi still can't focus exclusively on herself.


Sai's performance today was mindblowing, it broke my heart. Upcoming episodes will be painful. I need a hug, my heart is hurting so bad.

Here is your hug Jean.... 🤗🤗

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