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Posted: 13 years ago
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It is a pleasure to read your character and situation analyses, Hope. I feel I am listening to some clinical psychologist.

Priya's behaviour is rather childish if I follow your analysis. Just opposing Adi for the sake of opposing.

Vidya must be longing for a child of her own. She can go for latest technology to get herself a child. Or adopt one.

Uttara is confused. Shattered. Needs to get away from Vidya for sometime.😆

A lot of shadow boxing is happening.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: rightnow

It is a pleasure to read your character and situation analyses, Hope. I feel I am listening to some clinical psychologist.

Priya's behaviour is rather childish if I follow your analysis. Just opposing Adi for the sake of opposing.

Vidya must be longing for a child of her own. She can go for latest technology to get herself a child. Or adopt one.

Uttara is confused. Shattered. Needs to get away from Vidya for sometime.😆

A lot of shadow boxing is happening.



Thanks honey

Yes, I believe so. somebody I cannot remember who said that leaving the other day took cojones. you know what I mean na? I kind of agree and kind of disagree.

strong people do not need cojones to leave non-threathening situations. strong people use logic, a calm mind and a plan to make their next move. she did not appear bold to me when she left but shaken and a little petulant. when her situation in jhakar house was truly threathening she did not display any guts and leave instead she played tom and jerry games with BJ knowing well that Aditya would be there to protect her. when adi was gone she used devyani as a shield. she should have left then, spoken to adi and let him decide where his loyalties lie. she could have then proven how strong and independent she was.

instead when the situation was not threatening she choose to leave. Adi was never a threat. there is no logic to support that. In fact he was begging her forgiveness. she chose to drop the bombshell when he was down and out not when he was prepared to take it. that is not picking up the pieces and moving on - that is moving out to drive the stake of regret in as deep as it can get. If she is seeking indedependence then she has made no progress. If she is seeking to teach Adi a lesson in her value as a wife to him, then she has him exactly where she wants him.

In my opinion, if she was truly resolute, determined to set a new plan and establish her own ground:

a) she would go outside the city not stick around in place full of bad memories and enemies
b) stop mopping about him in private and play daggers and knives in public
c) contact her father to let him know about her whereabouts and tell him she does not need his help or ask for his help
d) apply for divorce or a legal seperation - they have been married for close to a year she won't even need to do the trial period I think
e) get a job or go to school or formulate a plan where she is truly unobligated to anyone or connected to her past
f) fight her case through her lawyer instead of playing Nancy Drew

Instead she has

a) left while she is in post operative care with no plan, no money, no forwarding information nothing just a lot of romeo and juliet skits
b) stays in the city so that she can be there fore her family (???) as long as she does not need to communicate with one individual
c) refuses help from people who she does not even have a grudge with instead choses to sleep in deserted offices with strange guards walking in and out, a temple where lone men were shown hanging out in the background
d) keeps him hanging - na ghar ka na ghat ka
e) keeps getting involved directly and authoritatively with family - why? what is the connection? they are your inlaws. if you have broken up with your husband then keep your distance from them too. they are not bereft. they have each other and an able bodied person is there if they need help. your relationship has not ended because you are a widow its because you are seperated. whole other ball game. stop creating uncomfortable situations where family has to play tug of war between her and Adi's feelings during crisis.
f) she refuses to let her dad know what decision she has taken
g) of all the job ads in the news paper she applies for the job with her college mentor and mother's friend and goes to give an interview for a job she is underqualified for but was offered just the previous night on a platter by the boss himself

does this sound like some one who is strong, independent and out to prove something to herself? or does this sound like someone who is petulant, out teach someone a lesson, risky and more dependent than independent?

Sounds like the latter to me.

I am not saying this becasue I do not like the character I just dont like when people indicate that to be strong a woman must be single, obstinate to the point of being dangerous to her own health and future and relying on good luck and concerned family members as opposed to a road map

sends a poor message
Edited by --Hope-- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#23
Enjoyed reading everyones comments :)

Its possible its just Devyanis hallucination and she is already badly shaken up. But whatever , Brahma is going to haunt Devyani until he is found dead or alive. The CVs really know how to show the unexpected. It will be Devyani Brahma goes after first then it will be Priya. He already holds her responsible for everything thats happened.

As for Aditya, his feelings regarding the reality about his dad has had to take a back seat. Too much has happened since then for him to really take it all in. He's accepted his dads heinous side but hasnt let it affect him YET.
As Hope said till recently his dad has been his support system and after marriage Priya was there for him too. During the divorce case it was obvious he wanted Priya at his side but because of their different views it could not be. Now all of a sudden hes has both his support systems snatched from him. One he doesnt even want and the other, he does, but she is not willing to be by him.
Even in yesterdays episode he wished for him and Priya to be together during this difficult time.


@Hope ... the ice has cracked, the CVs should now let it thaw rather than letting it freeze again.
What they both need is to talk.

After Thursdays episode someone mentioned how Priya had let pride get in the way and should have been there for Devyani. Well yesterday she did go and this will probably make it easier for her to go again if shes needed.



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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: FIZK6



After Thursdays episode someone mentioned how Priya had let pride get in the way and should have been there for Devyani. Well yesterday she did go and this will probably make it easier for her to go again if shes needed.





Fiz:

visiting and being there are two different things

inspite of her visit I don't feel she is there for devyani

all it was was a doctor's visit. doc already did that why duplicate the effort na?

the she tells Vidya to call her if she needs anything

Vidya always calls after the ghatna has happened

this girl either has no sixth sense or her mental and physical reflexes are just too slow

she called after Gaurav was missing for a while and even then everyone found out by accident

then she called after uttara had already left and did not know where to look for her

she always calls after the horse has bolted the barn

re Devyani, I think she needs a final confrontation with BJ to get closure. right now him missing and potenially alive will not let her rest in peace. As RN said, fear causes a thousand deaths
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hope ... Vidya should consider becoming a nurse, shes quite good at taking care of others and shes quite patient, except she sometimes panics.
As for calling for help, she wasnt that late when she went on a wild goose chase looking for Uttara 😆

As long as there is no surety of whether Brahma is alive or dead Devyani will be looking over her shoulder and as you say she will not get that closure. Same goes for Priya, she too will be looking over her shoulder.




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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: FIZK6

Hope ... Vidya should consider becoming a nurse, shes quite good at taking care of others and shes quite patient, except she sometimes panics.
As for calling for help, she wasnt that late when she went on a wild goose chase looking for Uttara 😆

As long as there is no surety of whether Brahma is alive or dead Devyani will be looking over her shoulder and as you say she will not get that closure. Same goes for Priya, she too will be looking over her shoulder.






Actually you know when was the best time I saw Vidya - the time she was really strong about what she wanted and how she showed it firmly - was when she told Chinu to shut up and stop his bakwas. Man I loved to see her in that avatar. For the only time I can think of she fought for her own rights, her own choices. I wanted to clap when she told that girly chinu to be quiet and stop doign faltu ishq ka ishar. I loved how she actually chastised Gaurav for treating her like his cattle. She was so good in that scene and even when she locks herself in with that I care a damn what you do I want my space and I am taking it now. She fought for real rights, real space that was repeatedly and as a matter of course getting abused, trampled on and taken for granted. she used a voice and she used it right.

I am not happy seeing that vidya is now not using her voice for her rights or the rights of a true victim but rather she is using it to preserve Uttara. I mean I know they keep saying baby baby but the fact of the matter is they do not want anything to happen to Uttara because they do not want to face the consequences with Devyani. Even when Vidya was looking for her she kept saying what will we tell Devyani. Arre bhai why care? is this Devyani's grandchild or Devyani's child in Uttara the surrogate?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Hope--



Actually you know when was the best time I saw Vidya - the time she was really strong about what she wanted and how she showed it firmly - was when she told Chinu to shut up and stop his bakwas. Man I loved to see her in that avatar. For the only time I can think of she fought for her own rights, her own choices. I wanted to clap when she told that girly chinu to be quiet and stop doign faltu ishq ka ishar. I loved how she actually chastised Gaurav for treating her like his cattle. She was so good in that scene and even when she locks herself in with that I care a damn what you do I want my space and I am taking it now. She fought for real rights, real space that was repeatedly and as a matter of course getting abused, trampled on and taken for granted. she used a voice and she used it right.

I am not happy seeing that vidya is now not using her voice for her rights or the rights of a true victim but rather she is using it to preserve Uttara. I mean I know they keep saying baby baby but the fact of the matter is they do not want anything to happen to Uttara because they do not want to face the consequences with Devyani. Even when Vidya was looking for her she kept saying what will we tell Devyani. Arre bhai why care? is this Devyani's grandchild or Devyani's child in Uttara the surrogate?

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That was the only time she was strong. When she went to the village again she was being pressured and she did'nt do much. Actually when she told her father in hospital, when she was shot that she wanted to stay with Gaurav and again when Priya was in hospital and she told him they will talk later, now for a girl like Vidya, that takes guts as her father is hot tempered and she doesnt say much in front of him.
But then again, Vidyas character is such, sweet and innocent and till she married Gaurav she didint know much about the ways of the world. She saw everything through rose tinted glasses and found her prince charming in Gauravji, well so she thought.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think he is either after Devyani or Priya
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Is Brahma angry because he was outsmarted?

Or lost Aditya forever?

His empire crumbled. Lost his Hitler like powerful position.
Could not do anything about Gaurav.

Revenge. To destroy everything which ironically includes his family. Can hold Aditya as hostage and ask them to retract. Story going in circles?
What will be Priya's reaction? Will she retract and save Aditya? Devyani will do it without even being asked.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: rightnow

Is Brahma angry because he was outsmarted? Yes

Or lost Aditya forever? Yes and he lost control over Devyani

His empire crumbled. Lost his Hitler like powerful position.
Could not do anything about Gaurav. Don't think he is as distressed about Gaurav.

Revenge. To destroy everything which ironically includes his family. Can hold Aditya as hostage and ask them to retract. Story going in circles?
What will be Priya's reaction? Will she retract and save Aditya? Devyani will do it without even being asked.




In some deep dark corner of his this devil's heart he actually loves Aditya. I firmly believe this. More than as a pawn. More than as a means to his own political ambitions. I honestly beleive he does love Aditya. I believe that it was only Aditya's reaction to learning the truth that caused him the most angst. Yes, he was worried about the fallout from the divorce but once proceedings started till the very end even in the adda he tried not to lose Aditya. When he tried to choke Devyani and Aditya came in the way. he pushed everyoen aside but he never lay a hand on Aditya.

I honestly believe that he really really loves him in his own pshycho way and that he would not hurt him. Even if he had walked away from this divorce with just Aditya (uncoverted of course) he would not have accepted defeat but would have regrouped.

I don't think he will hurt Aditya. Notice that in this entire show everyone has been shot, hurt, wounded etc by him but Aditya was never touched no matter how many times he confronted him.

I don't think we are going to see Aditya go hostage. he might get hurt in any assault that follows unintentionally but I don;t think he would set out to physically harm him. So priya to the rescue will not need to happen.

if Aditya was hurt I believe that Priya would be very involved to make sure he is alive. I do not believe it might convince her to stay. she demonstrates clear feelings for him but she is also very obstinate about not coming back home.

it would also be very cliche if she came home for this reason. She should come home becasue they talk, resolve and start trusting one another again otherwise it is not a real reconciliation but they are mohtaj of circumstances.

It is so strange, that they are not showing any communication or reactions from sweety. Gaurav's character just abandoned Vidya. bauji is gone to never never land. seems news of divorce etc is trapped within the Rohtak Bubble and it exists within a giant vaccum. very inconsistent.

I hope they dont go down the filmy way and show Brahma attack either woman yet. showing hidden fear tactics is more interesting from a thriller standpoint.

now that karan is gone and RD's interest in jhakar's welfare or activities is gone too has the RD character being ended for the purpose of screen time?
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