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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshics


I know, if this is what a pre-scripted, limited episode show has become, then I have a new respect for 6 days a week go on and on shows!

The weakest part of last night was the story - and that has been prewritten! What is the excuse for such juvenile writing I know not.


Arshi

Juvenile writing Indeed!
I think writer and director want to leave their FOOT PRINTS on the show.
With Dadi all the sanity and philosophy of the show is murdered.
The Ethos of the show is lost .
Completely free for all progression in second half of the show.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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He was neither worried nor afraid, Aparna, that too was part of the nautanki.

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: appukrish


Great post Arshi. Was an ok episode. It could have been much better. Danish-Rudra face off ko comedy kardiya. The chocolate khao, the honorable naga Pramukh. Hahaha.

Fully agree to yr reply to Arjit - all three Garuds were expressionless. Maya ka effect sab pe cha gaya. Rudra still feels like he's been under Hypnosis.

Dansh is shown sooo evil, and so over confident about his abilities to defeat the Garuds, yet when Rudra tells him about his hath ke lakeer fading when in front of him, the way Dansh reacted was a bit weird. Itna Dara Hua, acted so vulnerable.

The naga design on the shoe - what an idea Sirji! Among lakhon jan, their foot prints were traced. Of the countless movies we have seen with bombs being diffused in the last second, we saw one change today, the bombs didn't go off at all and the villains got killed - at the last second...

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshics



Agree with you on Rahil, I think the poor guy was trying to act for all the others.

As for copycat story - I think you are paying it a huge compliment, it was the copy of some kids comic story


The rip off was so pronounced in this particular episode as the very intention of Dansh testing the capability of Rudra was so akin to Moriarty playing games with Sherlock. An entire episode in season 1* of Sherlock was dedicated to exactly that, and hence I couldn't help but notice the shoddy adaptation of characteristics of the villain here too. Except that, this Dansh is no Moriarty and this Rudra is a far, far cry from Sherlock. Now Dansh appears to see no point in exercising self-control or following morals. He is somewhat of a hedonist. He is intelligent enough to know the consequences of his actions and the fact that his actions are wrong, however, he does not care. When it comes to morality, he displays pure apathy. It seems that the only thing he cares about is indulging himself, and in carefully constructing a satisfying self image of himself. YET, I don't see this on screen when the actor enacts it. The only novelty here is that, he swooshes nicely 😃Rudra on the other hand fails miserably as a powerful Garud Pramukh. His clueless cutie expressions do no good, his body language doesn't display the confidence which is required in a super hero. This is a huge disappointment because Gautam is quite capable of so much more...

Secondly, the dialogues, esp. that from Mai-Mui-Bairavi, that Garuds have the capacity to love, which the Nagas lack is again lifted from Harry Potter. It's not even paraphrased, it's the exact translation of Dumbledore's line to HP. Where is the creativity gone which was flying so high in the initial few episodes?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Have I missed something last night, folks? How is it that you think the bombs were never to go off at all?

I did not get that impression. They were meant to go off, and Dansh was deadly serious about it, as were his underlings, who all got killed so there was no one to activate them. At least this is what I grasped.

The standard procedure in such cases in both Indian and Hollywood films is for the bomb(s) to be defused at 11:59:59 hours by the good guy(s), after a lot of supposedly tense banter about which colour wire to cut. 😉

Even in the George Clooney film, The Peacemaker, this mantra was religiously followed, but I was not irritated because the defusing was, for once, done by a woman nuclear scientist!😉

So please do not call Mr. Parseltongue a joker. For one thing, he takes himself very seriously, even when he is trying to clown. For another, he is hardly sinister enough for all that he tries and tries. He is in fact like a caricature, and a not too good one at that. That the other 2 look blank - Rudra is now in the running for a Zen award- does not, at least for me, make Dansh's OTT juvenile sneering and childish zipping around any more palatable.

Arshi, where has it been shown that Dansh has divya drishti to rival or exceed Rudra's? Not to my knowledge. He saunters over to see what has happened when he does not get any confirmatory reports from his (dead) operatives, that is all. And his laughing maniacally, as usual, when Rudra screams at the sight of Shivanand's head in the box (the 4th box ? the one that was supposed to be his gift to Rudra? ) need not mean that he can see Rudra's reaction, but could be just what he anticipates will happen, the thought of which makes him laugh.

That whole Rudra-Dansh scene was bad comedy, and the police handling of the nagas + their bombs was pure farce.

In fact, this episode is beginning to make my old fears resurface. I was greatly reassured by the elegance and the mystical glamour of the metamorphosis episodes, but I have written earlier, and repeatedly, that the toughest task for the makers would be to make the climax credible, and then to wrap it all up neatly with no loose ends. Last night was hardly reassuring in this context.

Shyamala

PS: Is "obnoxious" not allowed in the IF?

Originally posted by: Arshics



I dont know Santhi. The first meeting of Garuda Pramukh and Maha rakshak fell so flat.

And the dialogues - unko goli di thi, tumko chocolate de raha hoon ---- as happy would say - what did the writers have before they wrote this?

The whole bomb thing fell flat.

One - After the massacre if the black hooded nagas have been identified, how come they are again roaming freely?

If they were spotted on the radar, and had dangerous bombs - why were they not apprehended before planting the bomb?

What authority do Rudra and Charles have that DM is allowed to share all govt resources and take them along on these missions while the cops are not involved in any law and order situation?

And those clear footprints - the only footprints in that area - how convenient is that ! juvemile stuff

If the bombs ware not to go off at all, it was as you said much ado about nothing, and dansh is not evil he is just a joker.

Dansh knows all about Rudra including his divya drishti, and he has his own divya drishti which is sharper than rudras, so he could know they got the bombs, after that where they met.

It was full of holes and bloopers and logic maiyya in coma like our maya memsahib

Rahil was the only entertainment, Gauti was too dumbstruck by the stupidity of the bomb episode I guess, so couldnt react at all!!!

For me it was the worst episode of the show. written by a 10 year old.



Originally posted by: pasumarthisa


It was not a bad episode. It was good in parts. There was intensity in the first half. But fizzed out in the later half.

Arshi, your harpic comparision was funny.

The whole episode turned out to be much ado about nothing. There was not much panic. Just these 3 musketeers looking for the bombs. Everything done perfectly? Too simplistic. While the plot was simplistic, the execution was ok.

Now the other factor. ie. Honorable Mr. Dansh. The way he counted down was just 'obno***ous'. It was way too OTT. Towards the end of the ulti ginti.

Rudra-Dansh face-off was good. Dansh is at the receiving end due to stereotyping.

Like I said earlier, Rudra and Dansh tried to unnerve each other but both didn't fall for the bait. Especially Rudra. That line from Bhairavi is going to be repeated often now.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Shymaladi your understanding is same as mine. The bombs had to be activated when the counter reached zero and Garuds killed the 3 men. Usually they will be set automatic and at the last second will have to be deactivated or the hero takes the bomb and throws it to some far off place.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Shyamala, Shruthi
That was what my confusion was

The nagas were on their way out, so the bomb had been activated.

I mean the countdown starts after the activation, not before😕

Since they were so close to the bomb, it must've never intended to go off!

Or were they going to activate it at 0 and then escape to another countdown?

Maha confusion!


As for danshs Divya drishti, I was just making a snide remark!

Dansh never informed rudra about the bombs, but he knew rudra would know about them.

He never gave any indication of keeping tabs on the rakshaks yet seemed to know that rudra will most probably find the bombs

He was in his den, gave remote instructions yet knew exactly where the three rakshaks post bomb recovery were, knew that they would be alone and not surrounded by cops and was hardly surprised that the bomb didn't go off.

Divya drishti it sounds like to me!


The fact is that it was neither well written nor well executed and the script was full of holes the size of ganga Maiyya.

I feel that
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Arshics Dansk told his men to trigger the remote button as soon as the counter reaches zero. So for the bombs to explode the remote has to be triggered when it reached zero. And the men who were supposed to do that were killed.
For me the clear blooper was the police know about the men with the box in the radar and still took no step to take them in custody. Where they waiting for the men to plant the bombs 😆😆😆. I know unexpected attack happens, but it was yesterday I knew even police force will wait for the rakshaks to come and take the bombs even if they knew shady characters are walking around😆😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Arshi
I am getting a feeling the whole Bomb drama was Only to divert Rudra and test his powers. There was no bomb ,so never would have exploded. Dansh doesnt feel sorry for the bombs not exploding.
It was just blue colored liquid Only. Dansh is calling it a poison but nothing proves his claim. His reaction after meeting Rudra made me think this theory. 😉

Just like Shivanand's head is Mayavi, the bombs were Mayavi.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Shruthi, seedhibaat,
I too felt that there was no bomb. Dansh had no reaction to the lack of explosion, as if it wasn't really going to happen.

And as I said - why have a countdown timer if the bomb was to be manually activated after reaching 0?

Shouldn't it get auto activated at zero?

There is too much left unthought of or unexplained.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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No, Arshi, the countdown is Dansh's own pet idea, part of his playing the Lord of the Universe. It had nothing to do with the activation.

It you listen to his instructions again, you will see that he first tells them to wait for 3 minutes, to maximise the helter skelter running about of the terrified kalpavasis, which would please him.

Then, he tells them that he is going to count down from 10, and when he gets to 1, they are to activate the bombs by pressing their remotes. There was to be NO countdown AFTER the activation. Then the bombs would go off in 60 seconds, enough time for them to streak off.

Now, as all 3 nagas were killed before he got to 1,. no bomb was activated.

As for Dansh, once he knows that Rudra has divya drishti, all he needed was to make a few educated guesses.

Well, after last night, I shudder at the thought of what is to come.

Shyamala


Originally posted by: Arshics

Shyamala, Shruthi

That was what my confusion was

The nagas were on their way out, so the bomb had been activated.

I mean the countdown starts after the activation, not before😕

Since they were so close to the bomb, it must've never intended to go off!

Or were they going to activate it at 0 and then escape to another countdown?

Maha confusion!


As for danshs Divya drishti, I was just making a snide remark!

Dansh never informed rudra about the bombs, but he knew rudra would know about them.

He never gave any indication of keeping tabs on the rakshaks yet seemed to know that rudra will most probably find the bombs

He was in his den, gave remote instructions yet knew exactly where the three rakshaks post bomb recovery were, knew that they would be alone and not surrounded by cops and was hardly surprised that the bomb didn't go off.

Divya drishti it sounds like to me!


The fact is that it was neither well written nor well executed and the script was full of holes the size of ganga Maiyya.

I feel that

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