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Posted: 10 years ago
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Yes, not just holes, but the kind of gaps a truck could drive thru. The real Mahakubmh 2013, with over 70 million visitors and extending over 55 days, went off smoothly, with no crime worse than thefts.

As for the garudas, when, as I noted on Arshi's last thread, more than half of them either reject their identity as rakshaks and/or the responsiblity that comes with it, what more do you expect?

Shyamala


Originally posted by: Kitsin

@ Arshi - The security has been lackadaisical from the start and Yes agree with you that during Kumbh mela they have a very elaborate bandobast done police checks everywhere and medical help and all that. Even the Prof. and Tiwari had alleged that the security was heightened for this mahakumbh. Alas all this seems to be only in their convos. and nothing concrete on the ground. This is something that has puzzled me, Shiva was captured so he could do nothing but Prof. and Tiwari knew everything and yet no special arrangements for security was done. All preparations done by nagas and none by the garuds- extremely disturbing. Were they waiting for Shiva to come and fing the other garuds, coordinate everyone and also look at the security. Some really big holes in the script.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sjj23

bang on arshi superb post 👍🏼and this is called a repaeting cycle in first episode shive was kidnpped by gyreson gang and after 60 episode by nagas gand whts new?? but ha now just to show a forcefull love track writters is making rudra dumb :( such a inconsisteny in rudra graph in bnaras mai mui was evetything for him and after met maya she became everything 😡 as divz said the show name should be mahamaya🤣🥱



Sahi baat, ye Rudra ka Maya prem has made him completely oblivious to everything else.

That is a little difficult to accept.

Mahamaya 😆😆😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Arshi,

Nice going, as always, and I am pleased to see that your enthusiasm for the naga pramukh has been toned down a bit. As I noted the first time he appeared, he tries too hard to be deadly cool, pun intended.


Oh yes Shyamala, pehli nazar ka pehla impression tha! Like a pretty dress in a show window...


The only memorable takeway for me from last night's horrors was Daadi doing a Jatayu, holding death at bay by literally tightening her belt (pallav+shawl) and waiting for Rudra to arrive so that she can tell him what has happened and forewarn him.

As for Rudra, his reaction to Punnu landing up covered with blood was worse than inadequate. He seemed shell-shocked and unable to even think,not to speak of doing anything worthwhile. It was not till Thappadiya Mai pushed him that he even thought of going out to see things for himself.

I could not understand why one of Rudra's special talents, the gift of second sight, which worked wrt Maimuyi 12 years before she was actually murdered, seems to have failed completely when Ganga and Daadi were murdered and when his Baba was taken prisoner.

Why does it fail? The only possible answer is that it was because he was drugged by the maya of Maya.

For whatever it is worth, here is my take on last night.

Shyamala

Mahakumbh 59:Murder most foul

Folks,

As for last night, I do not know about the aficionadas of Game of Thrones and of the other show whose acronym seems to use up most of the alphabet. Or about the Rahil-philes.

It sickened me, the murder of Daadi. it was the sheer enjoyment that Dansh took in doing it, and the way the frail body rocked with every one of the three thrusts of his knife. Ghastly.

I have tweeted Utkarsh: What has happened to you? Daadi's killing was so sadistic I almost threw up. Is it necessary to revel in murder most foul?

He has noted on his FB page that all these events were written long ago, and even as he was doing the writing he wished it could be changed. And that he was not planning to watch those episodes.
What a cop out!

I do not care about Sahadev, who was hardly there, anyway, or about Punnu, who specialises in a pop-eyed look to depict shock and horror, or even about poor totally under-utilised Ganga. But Daadi is different, and the leisurely, deliberate manner of her killing was unbearable.

Especially because of all the hand-kissing, the obeisance, the seeking of aashirwaad et al that accompanied it, and sought to rob her death of any dignity. I simply cannot see any reason for such scripting, pandering to the least common denominator of fans of violent Western shows.

But Daadi lent her death the dignity of which Dansh sought to rob her. I had goose pimples watching her rise, almost like one rising from the dead, and summon up the last vestiges of her strength by tying her pallav and shawl firmly around her midriff, to staunch the blood flow and postpone the inevitable blackout of her senses.

It reminded me of Jatayu holding his death at bay, as he waits for the arrival of Lord Rama. It is the same here, Daadi is waiting for Rudra, and to tell him what has happened before letting go of life. She was really one strong lady. And Surekha Sikri made her farewell scene one to remember. It was the sole, memorable take-away from among the horrors of last night.

As for Shivanand, it seems his fate is to be stabbed periodically with injections and end up trussed up in captivity. Now that he is out of circulation, the Garuda think tank has been paralysed and there is no one to get hold of the First Book, collate its contents with those of the Second Book, and learn where the amrit will emerge. Plus their total disarray, of which I have written above. which makes one wonder how on earth they are going to regroup. Even Rao is out of reach, on a nonsensical "research the poison" mission.

I do not know what Rudra is going to do now, but the general reaction of the 4 garudas present to Punnu's sudden appearance left a lot to be desired.

It will not be enough for Rudra to howl Baba!!! to the heavens (after doing a Salman for no discernable purpose! ). He has to regain the (then deceptive) Zen-like calm he displayed after Maya was poisoned, only this time he has to make it purposeful and focus on a much more threatening situation.

Charles has had the good sense to call the DM. But what can he do? He is a follower, of Rao and now of Shivanand. He is not a leader. Nor has he been shown to have any dramatic powers, though I suppose that being a garuda, he must be having some.

Rudra, not having had the good sense to talk to his father about his mission, and instead, been following his Daadi and Maya about like Mary's little lamb, is a blank. He can roar and beat people up, but that is not going to work against guns.

Charles too is as ignorant as Rudra about Mission Amrit, and bar his street smartness, he has, so far as one knows, no other talent that will stand him and the garudas in good stead now.

Thappadiya Mai will be of no use in the coming battles, for her utility will come in only when the amrit is almost at hand.

Katharine is perhaps the best informed of the lot, especially about the plans of Greyerson and Balivesh, the joint and the individual plans, to collar the amrit. It is not clear of they, and thus she, knows about the advent of the nagas.

But which side is she on at this point? Apart from her horror at the poisoning of Maya, there has been no indication that she has seen the light and is going to switch camps. When she does so, she will a huge plus for the garudas, but how far away is that point of time?

All this dismal analysis leads us to only one conclusion. Maimuyi has to appear, and at once, and use her astral powers to help Rudra counter Dansh and try and rescue Shivanand.

For without Shivanand, not all of Rudra's brawn, or Charles' cunning, or Katharine's karate stunts can help them get at the amrit and protect it from the nagas.

As for me, I hope that after having exhausted the possibilities of murder for enjoyment, the script does not now turn to the other fertile area of torture for enjoyment, of course of Shiva Uncle.

Greyerson at least never looked as if torturing Shivanand was a source of amusement or pleasure to him. It was all strictly business. But with the naga pramukh, pleasure comes hand in hand with business. I shudder at the prospect, and if something like that starts, I shall follow what Utkarsh said he was going to do, and switch off. Then I shall save some time and you too, for you will no longer have to wade thru my marathon post come Sunday!

Shyamala/Aunty/Di




Have replied to your post on your thread...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Yes, not just holes, but the kind of gaps a truck could drive thru. The real Mahakubmh 2013, with over 70 million visitors and extending over 55 days, went off smoothly, with no crime worse than thefts.

As for the garudas, when, as I noted on Arshi's last thread, more than half of them either reject their identity as rakshaks and/or the responsiblity that comes with it, what more do you expect?

Shyamala




True Shyamala, that they do not accept their identity then how would they accept their responsibilities?True Charles and Rudra do not accept it and T.Mai has her own limitations .Katherine has her own agenda. But the Prof. seems to be in a good post, they could have done some preparation along with the help of DM Tiwari . That is what is the most disappointing.

Actually Shiva was blinded 24 years back too and never took any precautions and after 24 years too did the same. Knowing you are in danger and to not take any precautions is criminal and the brutal price has been paid by his family. Rudra's obliviousness to the dangers to come and to Shiva's guidance has become a criminal negligence.

Guess this was the weakness of the garuds that the nagas were waiting for. Even Shivanand succumbed to it in the end. Almost makes me suspect the genuineness of Maya. Her arrival surely triggered a lot of these emotional weaknesses.( Suspicious mind, reading too many murder mysteries, I guess).
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Ott is different from looking funny. We didn't like rudra's Ott initially.Nothing against the actor here.


My point is about the acting actually. There are actors who can make that uncontrolled anger look non-OTT, like Mohit Raina, Ashish Sharma. That is, even if the script doesn't give the necessary backing, an actor can still make it look convincing and natural on screen. The same thing is happening to Rahil. His sly smile looks so put-on and artificial. His gazes are not at all menacing. He's supposed to be a seasoned villain on TV. Same thing can be said for chemistry between a romantic couple: even if the script is uninspiring, if the actors can rise above its deficiencies, it will still look watchable and natural on screen.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I don't think tht dansh(rahil) did overreacting... He was good in whatever he did ... He had to be cold bloodedn he showed exactly tht in dadi's scene tht he merciless person...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Arshi,

Have you watched this boy Rahil in some other show? I have a feeling that I have seen him in one, as a younger brother, and I watch very few shows, so I should have been able to remember where that was, but I cannot. It is beginning to tease me, like an elusive riddle. Do help out!

He is quite handsome, is Rahil, and I think he could be delightful in a light romantic comedy. Does he always do negative roles? Perhaps that is why he is getting stereotyped and is trying too hard to be differently villainous.

Now look at Naanu. He never makes the least effort, and yet at times he is really scary, and at others, his anguish seems almost palpable. No wonder he headed the National School of Drama for so long.

As for Rahil, he is headed for villain in chief in Kkrish 4,5,6 et al, taking over from Vivek Oberoi!😉

Shyamala


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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Shymaladi Naanu scares you when he wants. It is effortless acting. Simialrly Nawazuddin Siddique in Kahaani and recent Badlapur.
And I oont know whether you watched EHT. Ayub Khan as Rajnath Goenka, he went miles above Vatsal who was playing the main antagonist. That suave villain was done to the core by Ayub. His laugh after murder was so smooth, so effortless and he was not menancing but he was a thorugh villain. Even Vatsal did great as Shaurya Goenka.
Rahil needs similar suaveness which he is trying hard, but unfortunately falling short.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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My dear Shruthi,

I watched EHT till the episode when Shaurya murders Dr.Dayal Thakur. I did not watch that episode, which bid fair to be ghastly, and I quit.

Yes, Ayub Khan's Rajnath Goenka was a superb villain, though towards the end, he started leering and looking sideways too much. I am afraid I am at odds with you about Shaurya, who was, for me, a shameless ham, and very repetitive and annoying. Moreover, I cannot stand having 3 principals all of whom are dyed an unrelieved black, whereas the positive ones are either dumb or they get wiped out, like Dr. Dayal. I never thought much of the heroine either.

Naanu is in a class apart, and like Rajnath's love for Raima, he too loves his family members because they are of his blood and of the Sri Santh Panth. The scene where he murders that thug who had ordered that Maya be killed was a classic of the noir genre.

Rahil looks like the villain out of a science fiction movie. That is why I remarked that he was sure to land up as the main villain in Kkrish 4/5/6!😉

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Shymaladi Naanu scares you when he wants. It is effortless acting. Simialrly Nawazuddin Siddique in Kahaani and recent Badlapur.

And I oont know whether you watched EHT. Ayub Khan as Rajnath Goenka, he went miles above Vatsal who was playing the main antagonist. That suave villain was done to the core by Ayub. His laugh after murder was so smooth, so effortless and he was not menancing but he was a thorugh villain. Even Vatsal did great as Shaurya Goenka.
Rahil needs similar suaveness which he is trying hard, but unfortunately falling short.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Shyamala,
I have not seen him in any show, even i follow very few shows and ever since I became active on IF, it's mostly one show at a time.

I had seen Rahil in snatches of gulaal and kind of liked him, then he was slated to play Pramaad in SC, so his name cropped up then.

As I said, till now he's a pretty dress in a show window, passed by it many times, liked the look of it, never seen it from close!

So it's the first time I am really seeing him in action.

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