Draupadi: Responsible For The War, Really? - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -TomNJerry-

<font color="#000066">Mahabharat was meant to be! ... no one was solely responsible yet everyone was responsible,they all somewhere contributed!! ... the seed for the war was planted long before Draupadi came into the picture ... but yes everyone helped nourish the seed (the 3-4 generations starting right from Shantanu all contributed) ... and it kept growing uncontrollably! ... at the end it became something no one ever anticipated it to be!!</font>
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<font color="#000066">But i think from the pandavas side Draupadi was huge motivation factor for the war ... there is a difference between motivation and being the reason!!</font>






Actually the motivation part is not true.
Yes she did try to persuade n brainwash Yudisthir, but despite all her motivation, Yudisthir was quite adament about peace. Even Bhima who supported Draupadi initially finally gave in n wanted peace.
In Udyog Parva, Yudisthir made it clear that he would forgive the tormentors of Draupadi, if they r given back their share of the land. Hearing this, Draupadi really got distressed.
So,no, Draupadi was not exactly motivation. She tried her best to motivate her husbands but her attempts were futile.

She was neither the reason, nor the motivation.
In fact the Pandavas refused to kill millions for the sake of their wife's dignity but ironically found land n throne to be a more plausible reason for the same.

Its quite unfortunate for Draupadi that her humiliation did not motivate her husbands enough to wage war, but 'land' did it.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Sangeeta this is Vineeta from QH..
You loved Draupadi ever or after Pooja? They have dramatized this character the most n it make me sick. Any of pandavas son died, she was only mother with worry.

For me, i believe She was born for reason n she lived for that, they use word nimmit and I would say that's what she was. She n Karna two normal human made similar mistakes as all but paid too huge price. Mahabharata needed to happen n like Kaikai made Ramayana she made this. Few were to be sacrificed and she was...

Else seiously, why make draupadi so big? She was with her husbands during whole time when others were alone for no reason. Why we have no sympathy for them n why still she was bechari? She forgave pandavas so easily why?

Mahabharata is one where I don't dwell on characters as none was great if you read more so if left on face value there is some respect still to pass on to kids


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Posted: 11 years ago
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@amritat... hey
by motivation i am talking about ... esp the years during the exile .. there was pain and fire in her eyes, taunts in her words, her open hair never let her and others forget the horrendous day of the dyut sabha!

for me she was a woman substance, a fighter ... who kept motivating the pandavas to fight for justice ... and not settle for anything less!


and who doesn't want peace! ... i think we all strive for it deep down in our hearts! ... like poets love to say peace is the smile of the hearts!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post bheegi...
I'm also disgusted wid so many ppl saying Draupadi is the real cause of the bloodiest war.
She was always the victim of the situation in the real epic and yes her internal curse lead to the destruction of Kuru lineage but who arise the situation? noone even bothered.. i dont understand this hypocrisy of ppl. dey are okay with a women being treated as a animal and calling her vysya but not if she asks for justice. wat kind of thinking ppl are having i dun understand.
I know starBharat always highlighted Draupadi's VH but dey never went on frm the real cause of Mahabharat i.e., Bheeshm. simple thought ppl praise dere sacrifices but the problem arises from the sacrifices which are taken without seeing the future.. He took three ladies including Amba and refused to marry her.. in Mahabharat the women are always taken granted and obviously noone understand a women who can give life can take life also..
And Gandhari it'll be better if i dun speak about her..she not only blinded her eyes bt also her heart and brain forever...jst bcoz of dat sake her curse affected Krishnas(both) yepp jst lke Gandhari many mothers cursed Draupadi and lead to her only children. otherwise i dun see any reason of UPs death the warriors who survived 18 days of the war..
End i jst want to say Draupadi is a amazngg lady and i wish each and every women takes inspiration from her.. she is the incarnation of goddess but still just lke sita mata in human form suffered the ultimate but never sat back and asked for justice.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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nobody says anything abt pandu ... what was the need of ditching kingdom ...if not the cpnflict wudnt hv arised
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you Sangeeta for making this post

Its amazing that in this day and age, people continue to find it convenient to blame the woman. The war, as you said, was fought for the oldest reason, wealth!


She was not a nimith, it was not a generational thing. The feud might have gone on for generations. But none of the older folks decided to indulge in mass murder for the sake of land. Not only that they may have made bad decisions but they didnt deliberately make evil decisions. And calling Drau a nimith is the same as blaming her for war. Her VH just happened to be the most heinous of the misdeeds of DDSK. There were only 2 people looking out for Draupadi in that war. The rest were almost exclusively after property
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Posted: 11 years ago
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For me Draupadi will always remain the woman whose question in the dyut sabha changed the fate of Pandavas. The 5 men who would have remained slaves of Kauravas if she had not crossed the boundary laid by society. Draupadi put Yudhi on the throne by asking justice.
And she suffered a lot herself because she asked for justice.
Even today a woman asking justice is crucified. Justice seems to be a man's prerogative, but it is very clear that if a woman ask for justice, then she actually changes the destiny of the man.
But what to do most women instead of being light to their men , decide to remain blind themselves in the name of sanskaar.
Whoever says Draupadi was responsible for war, Draupadi insulted Karna I want to ask them these questions.
Don't men reject woman calling them dark, fat, poor family etc..Don't young girls for whom rich guys fall are told they trapped the rich boy. Why when a man rejects a woman in an insulting way it is fine, but when a woman rejects or insults a man she is supposed to get punishment. Can someone explain me the logic. I know the woman are conditioned to believe these things and that is what patriachial society wants.
But just understand that if Draupadi had not rejected Karna Pandavas would have remained nomads. It is their marriage to Draupadi that made them come back to Hastinapur and ask their share. And if she had agreed to be a slave well Duri and co would have ruled Hastinapur in a way they wished. Looting, Molesting.
So whoever say Draupadi was responsible for war think that if not for her a kingdom would have been in darkness.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

For me Draupadi will always remain the woman whose question in the dyut sabha changed the fate of Pandavas. The 5 men who would have remained slaves of Kauravas if she had not crossed the boundary laid by society. Draupadi put Yudhi on the throne by asking justice.

And she suffered a lot herself because she asked for justice.
Even today a woman asking justice is crucified. Justice seems to be a man's prerogative, but it is very clear that if a woman ask for justice, then she actually changes the destiny of the man.
But what to do most women instead of being light to their men , decide to remain blind themselves in the name of sanskaar.
Whoever says Draupadi was responsible for war, Draupadi insulted Karna I want to ask them these questions.
Don't men reject woman calling them dark, fat, poor family etc..Don't young girls for whom rich guys fall are told they trapped the rich boy. Why when a man rejects a woman in an insulting way it is fine, but when a woman rejects or insults a man she is supposed to get punishment. Can someone explain me the logic. I know the woman are conditioned to believe these things and that is what patriachial society wants.
But just understand that if Draupadi had not rejected Karna Pandavas would have remained nomads. It is their marriage to Draupadi that made them come back to Hastinapur and ask their share. And if she had agreed to be a slave well Duri and co would have ruled Hastinapur in a way they wished. Looting, Molesting.
So whoever say Draupadi was responsible for war think that if not for her a kingdom would have been in darkness.

@ bold, well said..👏👏
the whole washing off the reason of the war onto draupadi's head is shutting one's eyes to all the wrongs tht everyone else has done in the epic..if drit and gandhari had atleast taught their sons to respect their cousins and women, the VH wudnt really have happened, wud it now? so why not blame them? this woman underwent violence, shame and molestation wen she was menstruating, for crying out loud..and she is judged for wanting justice?? and is justified for refusing karna based on caste which btw, half the population in our country does day in and out even today..awesome brains!! and as if the Pandavas went fighting without any motive of their own.. towards the end, it was more "land" than "wife's dignity" as someone mentioned in their post..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: amritat

So true Bheegi...
I am sure people r flooding Facebook n Twitter with comments of how she was responsible...which is y i dont visit them anymore...

And Sabhayata, if the peace proposal had been accepted then not only the Pandavas but also her tormentors would have lived happily ever after...
Like i keep saying, men wage wars for land, men kill, men gamble, men molest women...

But then ask the reason for disasters n everyone will point fingers at a woman...

Initially, I thought that the CVs r trying to spread awareness regarding Women Empowerment...
This is their idea of it... 🤢

Even the real Gandhari understood Draupadi's pain, despite losing her children.


Yeah, as far as I recall, Gandhari never blamed Draupadi for the war like they showed yesterday. Either the Cvs are trying to make Gandhari a big villain or they're showing what the common perception is. I really hope we have a scene with Krishna/Pandavs where they clarify this mis conception
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: diva82

She wasn't responsible, Dhitaristha was, because he was the King, the acting Emperor, and the pandavas completed their oath and wanted their kingdom back. He should have done the needful and punished the culprits from the gambling arena. In fact, he should have punished Dury long before.


Thanks Diva. I think a lot of people share responsibility for the war and Dhrit is definitely one of them- perhaps not the only one. My grouse is with people who hold Draupadi the sole person responsible for the war


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