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Posted: 11 years ago
@Ashwini...no doubt 'dharma is a subtle thing' as even the MB has said that

The khaandavprastha fire has various interpretations too...I've read both sides of the story. Iravati Karve has been quite critical of this fire but there are others who thought it was needed for the greater good for the majority...

It's the same thing when a terrorist is viewed as a revolutionary by some. Who's to say who's right?

I guess the distinction happens when innocent lives are involved.
Edited by bheegi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
My two cents. Pls bear in mind my illiteracy re: Gita


Human beings are consumed with their own little troubles while God obviously sees the entire picture. So it is both. For the Pandavs it was a war for power and wealth. For Panchali, she wanted justice which in my view comes higher on the scale. For God there must have been greater good for humanity.


Do I believe ends justify the means? Absolutely not. OTOH, I believe means have to justify the ends. Or else you end paying a heavy price. Which is what the Kauravas learned the hard way and so did Pandav side.


So then why did God let all the adharm happen in the name of Dharm? My personal belief is that God is not a dictator. He allows personal choice and our choices determine consequences


With that I have to go back to my karma
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Arijit007

hey, rukmi got killed before kurukshetra, by balraam. and it was the real reason of baldaau's theerthyaatra.



thanks for the clarification ๐Ÿ˜Š ...

demolishing the old dharam ( may be manusmriti ) and establishing a new and appropriate dharam for the coming times , could be this the purpose ๐Ÿ˜•


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Posted: 11 years ago
The Mahabharat war was done near towards the end of Dwapura yug: when the evil forces start to outweigh the goodness in the society, a war breaks out and a new society has to be made, which is why Lord Supreme has incarnate in this world i.e Shri Ram and Shri Krishna. Shri Ram did that in tretayug, and Kalki will do that towards the end of kulyug.
I am not saying you have to believe what I wrote, I am just quoting the scriptures.
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Posted: 11 years ago
thanks, divya, yes, this is the real reason for the kurukshetra war, the spiritual reason.
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Posted: 11 years ago
One doubt , if the war was for greater good for the society , there should be a society na after the war ... The war killed lakhs and lakhs of people .. leaving only widows and kids ... the widows took sathi .. then where is the society remaining ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
What wars are successful in doing, is establishing a new world order denoting the turning point of the collapse of one civilization till the time another springs up in it's place.
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Posted: 11 years ago
i guess, the war's result was not a short coming one, even thr pandavas suffered after the war, it seems the socity benifited after parikshit's rajyabhishek.
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Posted: 11 years ago
I had been eagerly waiting for Today's Episode & it was worth all the wait!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ Because i simply Loved..Loved..Loved..the Episode today!!๐Ÿค— Distortions or otherwise, there wasn't a single moment in the Episode where i didn't want to stand up & start applauding!๐Ÿฅณ Every sequence was so Amazing!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ And the Actors played it to the Hilt!๐Ÿ‘ The Entire Episode Rocked for me from start to end!!๐Ÿฅณ I wonder how i'm going to find enough words of appreciation!๐Ÿ˜ณ

Coming to the Episode๐Ÿ˜‰..the Brahmastra making its way to earth, travels past thru' a worried Panchali, mourning for her sons, & hits Uttara on the womb, much to the shock of Subhi & her๐Ÿ˜•..Poor Panchali..like losing her sons weren't enough, she was really anxious to see that Astra go straight to Uttara's shivir๐Ÿ˜ญ..it felt really bad to see Uttara screaming & writhing in so much pain!๐Ÿ˜ญ The expression on Panchali's face hearing that scream & when Subhi called out to her was..๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜•..really felt for Panchali!๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ Why does Panchali have to go thru' so much pain just when she begins to find some moment of peace, happiness or solace๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ญ..Panchali & Subhi were so helpless watching Uttara struggle..with uncontrollable tears, Panchali can only think of one person for help..Her Sakha Govind!๐Ÿค— I so Loved the way she called out to Him..also Love the Sincere Devotion & Faith Sakhi has in Her Govind๐Ÿ˜ณ..she knows that when all else fails around her, it'll only be Govind standing by her side, helping her tide thru' the rough seas!๐Ÿ‘ And when Sakhi Panchali calls out to Govind with so much Trust & Pain, how could Sakha not come to the rescue?๐Ÿ˜Š One cry from Panchali & Govind knew it was time to act๐Ÿฅณ..Man!! was Govind angry..and this time Really Really Angry!๐Ÿ˜• To a point of losing His cool completely..nobody tests Govind's Patience to this extent!!๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜’

And what followed after that was even more Fiery & Destructive than the Brahmastra itself!!๐Ÿ˜ฒ Govind's was seething with angst & He was on fire๐Ÿ˜•..those Eyes..Stern & Determined to punish, said it all๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..if only Eyes could Kill, Ashwi would have been burnt to ashes right there!๐Ÿฅณ Have never heard Govind's voice change to such Deep Tone๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..immersed in Pain & Anger..today God was Speaking Himself!!๐Ÿฅณ Gosh! I so Loved that scene๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ‘..after, the VH, GG, & Draupadi's cry during the UPs Vadh, this was the other scene that gave me goose bumps when Madhav said: "Dyusht Ashwathama..you have always misused all your powers..nobody in the world, till today, has done what you have..you'll face more severe punishment than Duryodhan, Shakuni, Hiranyakashyap, Kans & Dusshasan.." ๐Ÿ‘And then came Govind's Sudarshan Chakra!!๐Ÿฅณ Awesome!!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ I Loved the effect that was given to that entire Sudarshan Chakra bit๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..it looked so Divine!!๐Ÿ˜ณ And the Sudarshan BG score๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ..it made the effect so Magnificent!๐Ÿค— Ashwi managed to have his last smirk before the Sudrashan Chakra punished him aptly!!๐Ÿ˜ก

Loved how the Chakra ripped Ashwi's "Mani" off๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..and he went all Blue & stiff screaming in pain!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ Ashwi deserved it all!! The Pandavs had an expression of relief & satisfaction to see Ashwi punished๐Ÿ˜Š..And what could be more worse for a human than to be cursed by God Himself?๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜• There was no escaping Govind's wrath!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ Loved the way Govind went: "You don't fear death right Ashwathama? I'll snatch away your death itself from you..i curse you to stay immortal..every part of your body will wear off..u will bleed from every bit of your body..no one will come near you..you will be running around all corners of the world, alone, till the end of time..you will be begging for death every second, but you will never get death..you will live with Agyan & in Darkness..the entire society will curse you but you'll still continue to breathe.."๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ฒ That left me speechless!! Must've been so scary for Ashwi to listen to the curse of God Himself!!๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜• And the "Yada Yada Hi Dharmasya" BG score that played then๐Ÿ‘..stirred me from inside!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ What an Amazing scene that was!!๐Ÿฅณ

Poor Panchali & Subhi were trying so hard to calm Uttara down..Yudhi informing them that Uttara's womb has been hit by Ashwi's Brahmastra, only shocked & pained them even more๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ญ..the P's were in tears & Arjun couldn't even look at Uttara's state๐Ÿ˜•..Loved Govind's expressions๐Ÿ‘..so Calm & Composed..He had the answer to everything!

Loved my Queen Draupadi here๐Ÿฅณ..those Eyes showing pain yet Determination to save Uttara's baby & Questioning Govind's justice..that Rocked & How!!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ When Panchali told Govind that although He had warned of destruction, this wasn't the kind of destruction they were expecting that even the womb of their clan would be destroyed๐Ÿ˜•..Govind's expressions were Awesome๐Ÿ‘..He felt for His Sakhi & her Questions had Him thoughtful. It was then Subhi's turn..Loved the Convo that Little Sister had with Brahta there๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..but openly declaring their Godliness & Powers!?๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜• Though it sounded really Cute when Subhi spoke of how she had save Govind & Balaram thru' the Womb Swap, as Yogamaya๐Ÿ˜ณ..Govind had some of the Best Expressions here!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ And that break down from Subhi with folded hands..pleading Govind to save the future of the P clan๐Ÿ˜ญ..to save Uttara's son was Touching!๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ So Loved that Brother-Sister moment when Govind calmed Subhi down๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..assuring that He wouldn't let anything happen to the future of the P clan because that was the future of the world๐Ÿ˜Š..Really Loved how both Panchali & Parth looked up at Govind when He said that to Subhi..Nakul's expression was so Puppy Eyes like๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜†..those soothing words from Govind calmed both Subhi & Sakhi Panchali๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..only Govind was capable of such Wonder!๐Ÿค—

Some great piece of Emoting from Veebha there!๐Ÿ‘..She really stood out today from the coy & soft Subhadra to a more stronger woman, determined to save her son's baby!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

Loved how Govind sat next to Uttara, placing His Divine hand on her womb๐Ÿ˜ณ..to bring the Baby back to life!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ Govind closed His eyes & mouthed: "I, Vasudev Krishna, bring Uttara's womb back to life with all the Goodness earned by Me in this birth.." ..and the way He placed His hand on Uttara's forehead in Blessing was really Sweet!๐Ÿ˜ณ And with one of my Fav BG scores - "Shri Krishna Govind" playing on, the effect of that scene was only enhanced!๐Ÿค— Uttara finally at ease with Govind's Blessings๐Ÿ˜Š..i so Loved Govind's smile as He first looked up to His Sakhi๐Ÿ˜ณ..Panchali๐Ÿ˜ณ..& that Eye-Lock they shared thereafter, was Something Else!! Their Eyes Met & then there was no need for words๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜ณ..those Eyes did all the talking๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..Govind giving Panchali reassurance thru' those Eyes & Smile, while Panchali expressing her Gratitude, Love & Respect for her Sakha๐Ÿค—..whenever, Panchali faced the worst of turmoils, it was only Govind who she found standing next to her๐Ÿ˜ณ..siding her & helping her out..she could only trust in Him!๐Ÿฅณ And Govind never ever failed His Panchali!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ I so Love this Amazing Bond of Friendship they share!๐Ÿค—

Loved How Govind spoke of Abhimanyu's baby becoming "Shudh" in Uttara's womb thru' death & re-birth๐Ÿ˜Š..& Govind christening the unborn baby as "Parikshit"๐Ÿฅณ..for the test of God the baby faced prior to its birth๐Ÿ˜ณ..Govind's smile there was adorable!๐Ÿค— And Nakul๐Ÿ˜‰..still continuing with those puppy dog eyes look๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜†..And when Govind spoke to the P's of lighting the UPs pyres๐Ÿ˜•..he kept looking at Sakhi..feeling every bit of her pain & emotion..๐Ÿ˜ญ

Yet another Amazing sequence from the Episode was the scene that Panchali & Govind shared!๐Ÿ‘ I have been so badly wanting to see a real good, long Sakha-Sakhi scene๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ..have always Loved their Convos from the start..always filled with so much Depth & Meaning!๐Ÿฅณ And am so thankful to the CVs for giving such a special exclusive Madhav-Draupadi scene to us, before the show ends..๐Ÿ‘

R.I.P UP's๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ..all of you will be Missed!!๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ Panchali..those Eyes still Determined & Strong like the Fiery Queen that she is๐Ÿฅณ..yet moistened with tears for the loss of her precious sons๐Ÿ˜ญ..my heart poured out to her๐Ÿ˜ญ..Thankfully, Govind was with her!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ And the Convo that followed between Sakha & Sakhi was Awesome!!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ Loved every bit of the Deep, Thought-Provoking discussion that they had๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ..& also the Eye-Talk they shared n Expressions on Govind's & Panchali's faces!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ Love how Sakha & Sakhi have such open, straight from the heart - to the heart talks that they have!๐Ÿ˜ณ

When Draupadi told Govind that He had warned her of Destruction, but she ended up losing all her 5 sons to the war, it was so Touching to see Govind lookeing at her & asking if she was sad that she even fought this battle๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..Panchali's heart aching in the pain of losing her sons๐Ÿ˜ญ..that irreversible loss!๐Ÿ˜ญ She couldn't control her emotions nor her tears before Sakha. Panchali spoke of how the shock that the heart gets is so unbearable that it seems like no truth is left in the world, & that she felt like her own parts were being cut off๐Ÿ˜•..i cried for her๐Ÿ˜ญ..the pain too much to take!

Panchali's Question to Govind on why He fought the war & what benefit they got out of it, why Govind hadn't used his magic spell to change people's hearts & give the Dharm Gyan to all of them..was nicely depicted!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ Loved every bit of Govind's reply to Panchali๐Ÿ˜Š...His Chamatkar couldn't bring about Dharma..because Man's mind was free to chose Adharm or Dharma depending on what His / Her soul decides๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ..though Man is free, He doesn't think about Dharma / Adharm๐Ÿ˜•..Man only follows/emulates those who are more strong & powerful than Him๐Ÿ˜ณ..and if that powerful person takes to Adharm, the rest end up doing evil deeds as well..Govind answering to Panchali's question on if there wasn't any other way out to restore Dharma without destruction, says that it was important to destroy completely, the past of the AryaVarta so as to establish a new rule..a new beginning๐Ÿ‘..destruction was necessary for a pure & cleaner tomorrow๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ..and that all the bloodshed has purified the world..

Really Love the Deep questions Panchali asks Govind๐Ÿ˜ณ..seeking "Spasht Uttar" from her Sakha..then Panchali asks Govind why they weren't destroyed too..Govind tells her that she was born out of the Holy Fire to restore Dharma๐Ÿฅณ..while the Pandavs were born thru' Blessings from the Gods themselves..Mantra Prasad๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..& Uttara's unborn child has already gone thru' the purification process thru' the re-birth experience๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ..so none of them held on to past blood when born..this Sacrifice was not just that of Draupadi or her family, but it was the sacrifice of the entire Aryavarta!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ Govind asks Panchali to forget her own pain think of the good & betterment of the entire community & society as a whole..๐Ÿ˜Š

Really Loved the camera moving between Govind & Panchali in turns๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..and the last bit where Sakha & Sakhi watch the Sun rising over the horizon, awaiting a new tomorrow was so Beautifully depicted! The MB song playing in the BG only multplied the effect of that last scene..๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ‘

It was SRJ & Pooja all the way for me Today!!๐Ÿค— They Completely Ruled the show today!๐Ÿ‘

SRJ๐Ÿค—..i really don't have enough words left with me to praise him any more๐Ÿ˜ณ..he surprises & awes me with such superb, out of this world performances!๐Ÿ‘ Its Unbelievable how perfect n Godly he looks himself, playing the Magnificent Govind!๐Ÿฅณ That's the amount of Conviction SRJ has..i can't imagine anyone else playing Krishna but SRJ๐Ÿ‘..when he emotes, it truly makes me feel that's how Govind would probably have been, since we never got to see the Supreme God Head!๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜Š I so Love SRJ๐Ÿค—..he was Bang On today too..with the Eye-Talk, the Dialogue Delivery, Expressions, Body Language, Voice Modulation & Emoting!!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ And when SRJ talks with those eyes๐Ÿ˜ณ..words can take a back seat!! I think i need find some new Vocabulary to speak in his praise!๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜ณ No wonder only SRJ has managed to replace Nitish Bharadwaj as Krishna in my heart & mind!๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜Š Thank you for essaying the role of Krishna, SRJ!๐Ÿค— You Nail it every single time you come on screen๐Ÿ‘..really Love you!!โ˜บ๏ธ Keep Rocking!๐Ÿฅณ

Pooja๐Ÿค—..My Fiery Eyes!!๐Ÿ‘ Another actor par excellence who surprises me all the time with such Amazing performances!!๐Ÿฅณ She has made me fall in Love with Draupadi all over again!๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ I have cried, laughed, slept, dreamed, read & watched Draupadi in the last 11 months..all thanks to Pooja!๐Ÿ‘ She sure can speak volumes with those eyes!๐Ÿ˜ณ There's no need for her to mouth dialogues๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ..because that's how convincingly she can communicate with just those eyes!๐Ÿค— Still can't believe MB is Pooja's debut show!!๐Ÿ˜ฒ She is a Marvel like i keep saying..Love her Emoting, Expression & Dialogue delivery๐Ÿ‘..i am at a complete loss for words to praise her!๐Ÿค— Love her to Bits!!โค๏ธ Thank you for taking the audition for Draupadi at the 9th hour, Pooja!๐Ÿ˜ณ..because if u hadn't, God Forbid, we wouldn't have been able to see Magic happen on screen!๐Ÿค— You are Awesome!!๐Ÿฅณ

Precap: The P's return to HP๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..what was with Drith squeezing Bhim's arm till it bled so bad??๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜•

After that Beautiful Episode got over, it just struck upon me that we have just another 2 days left of this Awesome show left!!๐Ÿ˜ฒ Feeling pretty Low even thinking that we won't be watching any new Episode from Monday, & the Special MB slot on TV will be taken up by some other Daily Soap!!๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ MB had an Elegance & Class of its own๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..& I'm going to Badly Miss watching those Episodes, coming over to the Forum & having lots of Great discussion over here!๐Ÿ˜ญ I'm going to Miss this Amazing Star Cast from the show๐Ÿค—๐Ÿ˜’..more so, I'm going to Miss Saurabh, Pooja & Shaheer so so much!!๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿค—๐Ÿ˜ญ If i'm feeling so bad as a Viewer, i can imagine what the actors must be going thru' today๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ..post the last day of shoot, and all of them dispersing๐Ÿ˜ญ..never to return to the same location & sets, with the same gang for shoot again!! Why do good things have to end so soon?๐Ÿ˜’๐Ÿ˜ต๐Ÿ˜ญ
Edited by luv_sakshi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: bloodline

Today's episode was phenomenal. SRJ and Pooja were the show-stealer.

SRJ take a bow...the anger at Ashwatthama, pain while looking at Uttara, the divinity when reviving Parikshit, the melancholy and empathy while looking at his Sakhi in pain, and the serenity when while watching the sunrise...each and every expressions on his face were nothing but perfection.

I seriously loved how in the moment of utter desperation, all Draupadi could think of was Govind. Her heart-piercing scream and expressions on Govind's face when he heard it were ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

I loved the intense eyelock between Sakha-Sakhi when he revives Uttara's baby. Pooja and SRJ's chemistry rocks.

Very well said!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘..Couldn't agree more here bloodline!๐Ÿ˜ณ

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