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Abhimanyu was the son of Arjuna and Subhadra and his life story is documented in the Hindu epic Mahabharata. He was the nephew of Lord Krishna and was married to Uttar, the princess of Matsya. Abhimanyu was killed on the 13th day of the Kurukshetra War. His son Parikshit was born after his death in the war.
Abhimanyu inherited both courage and fighting ability from his father, Arjuna, and his grandfather, Lord Indra. He was considered to be an equal to his father owing to his prodigious feats. Abhimanyu participated in the Mahabharata war when he was 16 years old. During the Mahabharata war, Abhimanyu held at bay and defeated many great warriors such as Drona, Karna, Shalya, Kripa,Ashwatthama, Duryodhana and Dushasana.

Abhimanyu was the most illustrious of the Pandavas and Kauravas of his generation. By his virtue and capability, he was deemed to be the most eligible and qualified heir to the throne of Hastinapur.

After six days of war, Abhimanyu is most recognized for destroying the banner and checking the advance of Bhishma on the first day of the war, Abhimanyu's short but eventful life gains the most prominence on the thirteenth day of the war when he is made to enter the powerful Padmavyuham battle formation of the Kaurava army. Drona had made this contraption in order to capture Yudhishthira. On the side of the Pandavas, only Pradyumna, Krishna, and Arjuna were aware of the secret technique to break this seven-tier defensive spiral formation used by Dronacharya. King Bhagadatta of Pragjyotisha lures Arjuna away from the battlefield. This leaves Abhimanyu to break the Chakravyuh. Abhimanyu gladly accepts to help the Pandavas break the Chakravyuh but he also makes it known to them that his knowledge is limited to breaking in and didn't know how to exit. As promised, Abhimanyu enters the Chakravyuh followed by his kinsman. The spectacular formation and the speed with which Abhimanyu breaks through were overwhelming for the others and they were left far behind. Abhimanyu puts on a brave fight against all the atirathis.

Being the grandson of Lord Indra, god of mystical weapons and wars, Abhimanyu was a courageous and dashing warrior. Considered an ace archer, Abhimanyu was able to hold at bay great heroes like Drona, Duryodhana and Dushasana. Determined to exit the Chakravyuha by shattering it from within, Abhimanyu goes on rampage, reaching the heart of the trap. Fighting with such ferocity, none from the Kaurava side could best him in a one-on-one combat (dwandva yudha). Proceeding, Abhimanyu defeats all the maharathis in a one-on-one battle, highlights including injuring Shalya so badly which causes him to faint, killing Shalya's younger brother, piercing Drona and Kripa, injuring Dusahshana badly, piercing Karna and cutting off his bow, killing Karna's younger brother and Brihadbala, the king of Kosala of the Ikshwaku dynasty. Abhimanyu really proves very expensive for the Kaurava army, destroying 3/4 of an akshouhini army single-handedly. Incensed at the admiration that those like Kripacharya and Drona express for Abhimanyu, Duryodhana attacks the boy. Sparing him so that his uncle Bhima can fulfill his oath, Abhimanyu leaves Duryodhana chariotless and weaponless, bleeding all over. With a single arrow, he also kills Duryodana's son Lakshmana, who had come to defend his father. Enraged, Duryodhana orders all the Kaurava maharathis to attack Abhimanyu, who with disgust counters all their attacks. He then attempts to arrest Duryodhana. Stung by Duryodhana's doubts in his abilities, Drona suggests that Abhimanyu could only be killed through illicit means. Following the orders of the commander, Karna cuts off Abhimanyu's bow. Then Drona and Kripa kill Abhimanyu's horses and charioteers. Abhimanyu draws a sword and shield and continues to wreak havoc on the Kaurava army, only to be disarmed from afar once again. Drona destroys the hilt of the sword and the shield. Abhimanyu, who famously uses the wheel of a broken chariot to fend of attackers in lieu of his weapons. The wheel is broken into fragments by the enemy forces. Abhimanyu picks up a mace and pounces at Ashwathama. Ashwathama leaps back to avoid Abhimanyu. A mace battle between son of Dushasana and Abhimanyu ensues. During this mace battle, both of them are thrown to the ground. But Dushasana's son rises first and hits the crown of Abhimanyu's head as the latter was in the process of rising up from the ground. Thus, Abhimanyu's life is ended.

News of the despicable acts committed on Abhimanyu reached his father Arjuna at the end of the day, who vows to kill Jayadratha the very next day by sunset, and failing to do so, commit suicide by self-immolation immediately. Arjuna kills many soldiers of the Kaurava army however when an eclipse covers the sun, everyone thinks the sun has set. Arjuna thinking he has failed his vow orders his soldiers to light a pyre so he can immolate himself. Jayadratha upon hearing this goes mad and comes to taunt Arjuna. However, when the eclipse ends the sun starts shining again and Krishna informs him that the sun had not set but it was an eclipse. Arjuna then picks up his weapon and cuts off Jayadratha's head in revenge for Abhimanyu's death.

His son, Parikshit, born after his death, remains the sole survivor of the Kuru clan at the conclusion of the Mahbhrata war, and carries on the Pandava lineage. Abhimanyu is often thought of as a very brave warrior on the Pandava side, willingly giving up his life in war at a very young age. Abhimanyu was praised for his audacious bravery and absolute loyalty to his father, his uncles.

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Reading especially the Bold parts of the above in red, i feel, If Only...The CVs had done their research well on Abhimanyu...his Valor n Bravery n Focused on the real depiction of his Character instead of Character Assassination...the Abhimanyu Vadh Episodes would have Rocked n How!! Sad...Sad...the entire Glory of the Brave heart n one of the Greatest Warriors - Abhimanyu, was projected this way by the CVs on MB!! Was any bit of what was explained above ever shown?? At least, i am not sure it was..!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Thanks vrish for this

first of all what i want to say is Bhima you are awesome.Not only your thoughts are clear but are pretty logical as well.You go Bhima

Regarding dhrishtdyumna yes he did what was necessary but still it was a cowardly act and he deserves to be rebuked for it

But arjuna in no way should be rebuking dhrishtdyumna for what he did considering the unfair means arjuna himself used.Not only in case of bheeshma but even during jaydratha vadh he cuts of bhurivasa arm from behind and upon being rebuked gave lame excuse that it was his dharma to save satyaki so what he did was right.


ANd then when stayaki himself kill bhurivasa in the same way dhrishtdyuman killed drona arjuna and krishna dont do a thing to stop him neither do they rebuke him


before dhrishtdyumna arjuna should rebuke his dear student for killing burivasas like that

i can understand arjuna feeling bad for drona since drona was like a father to him but rebuking other warriors for using unfair means is something he just shouldn't do





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I agree w/ everything else except the part in bold: Dhrishtadyumna didn't deserve to be rebuked at all.

Let's put ourselves in his armor. He's the supreme commander of 7 Pandava akshaunis (who knows what it was by day 15?) His opposite in the enemy camp - the man he was born to kill - had just killed his father and 3 sons, and was massacring the rest of his army, using divine weapons on them. Krishna himself had advised that he was unstoppable, and so the ever truthful Yudhistir did something he never did either b4 or since - he lied. So that Drona could be stopped.

Now Drona took a yogic pose and his soul departed his body. This was not known to Dhrishtadyumna, nor did Arjun, while running to stop him, tell him that either. So the fear Dhrishtadyumna had was legit: had he not beheaded Drona and Ashwatthama returned and Drona found out that he had been lied to, it would have been over for the Pandava army. So to state that Dhrishtadyumna deserved to be rebuked by anyone is being very unfair to him. Note that I'm not all that much a fan of Dhrishtadyumna: he seems to be a mediocre warrior, and never won a single battle against Drona, Kripa or Ashwatthama, and always was rescued by either Satyaki, or Bhima or Arjun.

But your point about Arjun is right on. He has emotions for Drona, which he doesn't for Bhurishrava (which is strange, given that the latter was a 3rd cousin of his father). And what Satyaki did was even more needless than what Dhrishtadyumna did. Bhurishrava's arm had been cut and he had really given up the battle, both out of embarrassment and helplessness - what could he do w/ just his left arm? But Satyaki went ahead, beheaded him, and when rebuked, reminded his enemy of how Abhi was killed.

In case of Drona, he was dead, but Dhrishtadyumna didn't know that, so the fear was there that Ashwi would return and Drona would turn back to fight - a fear that wasn't there for Bhurishrava
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I commented on the rest of today's episode, but reserved my observations about the battle for here.

The 14th day of the war was the hardest fought, and involved a lot of action. It was hardly a walkover by a raging Arjun as shown here. First of all, his battle w/ Drona was actually a stalemate, and when Krishna realized that it was taking too long, he just took the chariot ahead. Oh, and Drona asked Arjun why he left w/o defeating his enemy, and Arjun told him that he was his guru, not his enemy. Quite contrary to what he told Drona today.

In the meantime, Arjun had assigned Satyaki to protect Yudhistir, since Drona still had his plans of capturing the latter. Granted, Satyaki doesn't exist in this serial. But when Arjun had gone deep and there was no sign that he was alive, Yudhistir sent Satyaki after him, and Satyaki delegated his job to Bhima. Yudhistir soon sent Bhima as well, who assigned that job to Dhrishtadyumna. It's notable that Satyaki broke Drona's bow quite a few times, despite being badly wounded, while Bhima broke 100 of Drona's chariots. Then those 2 penetrated, battled several warriors, spotted Arjun and blew their conches, and so did Arjun. That relieved Yudhistir.

Also, on Yudhisthir's end, Drona killed a number of major warriors, including the rulers of Kekaya, Chedi, Magadha and a few other Panchala heros. Granted, they didn't exist, and neither did Satyaki nor Bhurishrava, so I guess that part could have been skipped.

But it was a day of major action by Bhima. After defeating Drona, he defeated a number of major warriors, like Kritavarma, and came up against Karna. In fact, today was the day that Bhima actually killed the most Kauravas. What happened is that Bhima got into a battle w/ Karna, which was supposed to be easy for Karna, but the latter was getting hammered by Bhima. As a result, Dury sent several of his brothers, including Vikarna, to defend Karna, and they all were killed by Bhima. There was also a bloody battle b/w Bhima & Karna, and both inflicted heavy injuries on each other. It was a stalemate (contrary to what the serials show, where they show it a straight win for Karna, which it wasn't), since Karna avoided killing Bhima to fulfill his promise to Kunti, while Bhima avoided killing Karna since he had made Arjun vow to do it.

After all that action, Arjun had gotten to the last ring defending Jayadrath - it was Kripa, Ashwi, Vrishasena, Shalya and some more warriors. He fought all of them, including Jayadrath. It was then that Krishna got the sun hidden, and advised Arjun to behead Jayadrath, aiming the head for Jayadrath's father's lap, who was outside the battlefield.

None of that in today's episode. Arjun easily defeated Drona, and then lit up Karna's chariot, forcing him to dive. As people have asked, why didn't Karna use his shakti? In the real battle, Arjun did aim arrows @ Karna which were intercepted by Ashwatthama.

Both Drona & Ashwatthama were formidable warriors, who no one other than Arjun or Bhima could defeat. But who would know that watching this serial?
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Posted: 11 years ago
Compltelty agree vrish especially about ashwathama

Ashwi was no ordinary archer himself.Infact quiet a few times he defeated arjuna as well and i would say during the jaydratha vadh day did a much better job than karna in trying to stop arjuna.IN ⭐️bharat not only ashwi's character has been blackwashed even his skills have been blackwashed.Not sure how this ⭐️ashwi will release Narayan astra

some more tid bits about day 14 war

1)Bhima fought two duels with karna on day 14

first one he easily vanquished karna it was a very small duel .Bhima destroyed karna's chariot and karna got on vrishsena's chariot.Although for this particular duel its mentioned that karna was fighting mildly with Bhima

then there was a second much longer and fiercer duel with karna in which karna initially was fighting mildly but after seeing Bhima kill one of dury's brother's he fought with his full might but was still unable to stop Bhima

Bhima killed 20 sons of dhrit that day in front of karna,destroyed atleast 4 of karna's chariots and bows

however towards end of the end of the duel Karna gained an upper hand and destroyed Bhima chariot and all weapons he possessed. Bhima ran towards the feild where all elephants lying dead to impede karna's speed .Which is when karna says something to him and spares him

In KMG at this moment it is also said that Bhima spares him which i dont understand logically how since bhima had no weapons at that time however CE (crtical edition) doesn't mention anything like this it only talks about karna sparing Bhima

2)In any case Bhima;s this battle with karna is quiet awesome Bhima has an upper hand through majority of this duel and dhrit is actually praising Bhima throughout which is why i consider Bhima to be the second best archer in panadav army equal to abhimanyu and above satyaki

3)Another important encounter of this day was bhurvisas and satyaki in which stayaki is about to be killed but arjuna cuts of burvisas arm from behind.This act of deceit from arjuna really bother's me.Although he was forced to do this by krishna ji .Arjuna didnt want to interfere in this battle however kiishna ji motivated him to save satyaki at any cost which also shows that krishna ji himself was at times partial to his friends and family

but my main issue here is that killing people like karn,dury etc by deceit is fine since they were unfair to pandavs as well but what did Bhurvisas ever to do pandavs.He was fighting a fair battle with stayaki arjuna attacking burvisas from behind for satyaki cant be justified in any way

Infact if arjuna hand t interfered and stayaki would have been killed then this day would have ended as victory for kauravas

4)Gato baby also fought major battle with the main raksha of kaurava army Aalumba i think the name was and killed him


Edited by Sabhayata - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Correct regarding Ashwi. He was not a poor warrior as being depicted. Ashwi was on full form on the 14th night, killing Ghato's son and easily defeating Ghato himself and destroying large sections of Ghato's army.
Combined 14th day and night probably saw the maximum carnage on both sides.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

In KMG at this moment it is also said that Bhima spares him which i dont understand logically how since bhima had no weapons at that time however CE (crtical edition) doesn't mention anything like this it only talks about karna sparing Bhima



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You are forgetting that Bhima was a great wrestler as well. So even if deprived of weapons, he was fully capable of bashing up Karna unarmed. This of course assumes that Karna would have obliged him by fighting on his terms, which given Karna's characterization, he may have.

So both did spare each other. I think the CE assumes that Bhima's physical superiority to Karna was moot b'cos Karna still wasn't totally disarmed, and so could have used his weapons on Bhima.

Anyway, soon after, Arjun, who had been on his chariot all day, did attack this somewhat weary Karna and drove him away. Karna resumed battle after Jayadrath's death w/ Satyaki,

Pirate King

You're right about Ashwi - which is why I've often wondered why Ghato baby was a solution to Karna when even Ashwi had at least 2 weapons that could have slain him.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.


You are forgetting that Bhima was a great wrestler as well. So even if deprived of weapons, he was fully capable of bashing up Karna unarmed. This of course assumes that Karna would have obliged him by fighting on his terms, which given Karna's characterization, he may have.

So both did spare each other. I think the CE assumes that Bhima's physical superiority to Karna was moot b'cos Karna still wasn't totally disarmed, and so could have used his weapons on Bhima.


valid point may be that is why the difference

so at end of the day even translator's perception can alter the actual event no wonder there is so much confusion regarding what actually happened with regards to many incidents in MB
Edited by Sabhayata - 11 years ago
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At the end of the day Jarasandha would have been laughing the loudest in heaven.

It was his dynasty that survived the longest among all dynasties of that age including the Pandava and Krishna's dynasty.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Compltelty agree vrish especially about ashwathama

Ashwi was no ordinary archer himself.Infact quiet a few times he defeated arjuna as well and i would say during the jaydratha vadh day did a much better job than karna in trying to stop arjuna.IN ⭐️bharat not only ashwi's character has been blackwashed even his skills have been blackwashed.Not sure how this ⭐️ashwi will release Narayan astra

some more tid bits about day 14 war

1)Bhima fought two duels with karna on day 14

first one he easily vanquished karna it was a very small duel .Bhima destroyed karna's chariot and karna got on vrishsena's chariot.Although for this particular duel its mentioned that karna was fighting mildly with Bhima

then there was a second much longer and fiercer duel with karna in which karna initially was fighting mildly but after seeing Bhima kill one of dury's brother's he fought with his full might but was still unable to stop Bhima

Bhima killed 20 sons of dhrit that day in front of karna,destroyed atleast 4 of karna's chariots and bows

however towards end of the end of the duel Karna gained an upper hand and destroyed Bhima chariot and all weapons he possessed. Bhima ran towards the feild where all elephants lying dead to impede karna's speed .Which is when karna says something to him and spares him

In KMG at this moment it is also said that Bhima spares him which i dont understand logically how since bhima had no weapons at that time however CE (crtical edition) doesn't mention anything like this it only talks about karna sparing Bhima

2)In any case Bhima;s this battle with karna is quiet awesome Bhima has an upper hand through majority of this duel and dhrit is actually praising Bhima throughout which is why i consider Bhima to be the second best archer in panadav army equal to abhimanyu and above satyaki

3)Another important encounter of this day was bhurvisas and satyaki in which stayaki is about to be killed but arjuna cuts of burvisas arm from behind.This act of deceit from arjuna really bother's me.Although he was forced to do this by krishna ji .Arjuna didnt want to interfere in this battle however kiishna ji motivated him to save satyaki at any cost which also shows that krishna ji himself was at times partial to his friends and family

but my main issue here is that killing people like karn,dury etc by deceit is fine since they were unfair to pandavs as well but what did Bhurvisas ever to do pandavs.He was fighting a fair battle with stayaki arjuna attacking burvisas from behind for satyaki cant be justified in any way

Infact if arjuna hand t interfered and stayaki would have been killed then this day would have ended as victory for kauravas

4)Gato baby also fought major battle with the main raksha of kaurava army Aalumba i think the name was and killed him



tht is y i dont understan y he dint interfere to save abhimanyu. though inspite abhimanyu being being family 😕.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Sabhayata

Wasn't the CE an analytical work, in addition to being an aggregation of translations? At least that's how I understood it.

PirateKing

Well, Krishna's lineage did get continued by Vajra, and the Pandavas by Janamejaya. Oh, and in addition to Jarasandha, even Sishupala's & Narakasura's lineages survived. Diala should be overjoyed 😆

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