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CatcherInTheRye

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Posted: 11 years ago

#161

Originally posted by: Paro95
Totally agree wid u reet!!!! It was beautifully picturised😃 N check some previous pages, ull find loads of citations on subhadra/yogamaya

yes Paro😃..i hv chked n got to know or u can say understand a bit of that😆😆...that yeah Subadra was Yogmaya...she took birth as Kkrishna's younger sis thn...n i was thinking the same..as when Abhi questioned if Yogmaya again went to bhagvaan Vishnu...and Krishna said that no...it take sbirth vnevr needed...n looked at Subhi..i was like oh so Subhi is Yogmaya😆😆

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CatcherInTheRye

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Posted: 11 years ago

#162

evn Sakhi can also b Yogmaya...lol...so 2 Yogmayas...Subhi n Sakhi...oh god...so confused...but no...Yogmaya ji to power hain..kitne b birth le skti hain ek hi baar mein...:p

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Lumos

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Posted: 11 years ago

#163

thanks shyam and mnx12!

will come up with my doubts post-reading that colossal literature! Seems fascinating!

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Posted: 11 years ago

#164

Paro check edt page 78, I posted about Yadavas being khastriya and cowher controversy.

Umm sandhureet, Krishna and balram, both r at times considered vishnu, his white hair and dsrkw hair.

That aside vasudev, Pradyunma, aniruddha are all considered Krishnas planar expansion or his avatars. If it can happen with krishns, why can it not happen with mahashakti mahamaya? notice how krishns protects and loves both subhi and drau without any self serving reason.

Whstever cannot be comprehended by reason need not be absurd. God is beyond reason. To bind god within parameters of our understanding is futile.

Even kunti is one form of mother earth or bhoomidevi. Hence her name pritha. Pritha or prithvi is considered daughter of King prithu, who was vishnu's incarnation as human king on earth.

Again satyabhama is another expansion of bhoomidevi, who came to join her lord.

Look how krishna protected pritha and her sons too.

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TheWatcher

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Posted: 11 years ago

#165

The Rig veda 1.22.164 sukta 31 mentions a 'herdsman who never stumbles', does it refer to Krishna?, Its interesting because Rig veda does not have the concept of Trimurti, it makes me very very curious if this is a subtle hint at Krishna.

Is Krishna really mentioned or its some other herdsman?, AFAIK, there is only one herdsman mentioned in the Hindu mythology and that is Krishna. if he is mentioned in the Rig veda I will be more than fascinated.

Edited by TheWatcher - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago

#166

I am not sure about rig veda as I did not read vedas.

But I know from researcher publications, mqny separate god during rig veda later merged into one. Like rudra, and few other ascetic type, bull riding gods merged into shiva later. Maybe there was Aditya vishnu, some one else and herding god and they merged as krishna.

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CatcherInTheRye

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Posted: 11 years ago

#167

Originally posted by: LeadNitrate
Paro check edt page 78, I posted about Yadavas being khastriya and cowher controversy.
Umm sandhureet, Krishna and balram, both r at times considered vishnu, his white hair and dsrkw hair.
That aside vasudev, Pradyunma, aniruddha are all considered Krishnas planar expansion or his avatars. If it can happen with krishns, why can it not happen with mahashakti mahamaya? notice how krishns protects and loves both subhi and drau without any self serving reason.
Whstever cannot be comprehended by reason need not be absurd. God is beyond reason. To bind god within parameters of our understanding is futile.
Even kunti is one form of mother earth or bhoomidevi. Hence her name pritha. Pritha or prithvi is considered daughter of King prithu, who was vishnu's incarnation as human king on earth.
Again satyabhama is another expansion of bhoomidevi, who came to join her lord.
Look how krishna protected pritha and her sons too.

Thankiu so much leadnitrate for this xplanation...i never knew that Kunti too is form of Earth..n Satya bhama too...evn i wanted to ask this ..abt Satyabhama..but alwayz it skipped from my mind😛thankiu so much...apne bina pooche hi sb bta diya😊😊

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Ashwini_D

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Posted: 11 years ago

#168

Originally posted by: TheWatcher
The Rig veda 1.22.164 sukta 31 mentions a 'herdsman who never stumbles', does it refer to Krishna?, Its interesting because Rig veda does not have the concept of Trimurti, it makes me very very curious if this is a subtle hint at Krishna.

Is Krishna really mentioned or its some other herdsman?, AFAIK, there is only one herdsman mentioned in the Hindu mythology and that is Krishna. if he is mentioned in the Rig veda I will be more than fascinated.

I cannot answer you question specifically, but the probablity of this herdsman being Krishna is quite low considering that cows had enormous value in ancient India. Owning cows was a sign of wealth and prosperity. So it is quite natural for herdsman to be mentioned, assuming it refers to a cowherd. This can also be seen in MB, where Duryodhan and co attempt to steal cows from the Matsya kingdom.

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Debasree

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Posted: 11 years ago

#169

Originally posted by: LeadNitrate
Paro check edt page 78, I posted about Yadavas being khastriya and cowher controversy.
Umm sandhureet, Krishna and balram, both r at times considered vishnu, his white hair and dsrkw hair.
That aside vasudev, Pradyunma, aniruddha are all considered Krishnas planar expansion or his avatars. If it can happen with krishns, why can it not happen with mahashakti mahamaya? notice how krishns protects and loves both subhi and drau without any self serving reason.
Whstever cannot be comprehended by reason need not be absurd. God is beyond reason. To bind god within parameters of our understanding is futile.
Even kunti is one form of mother earth or bhoomidevi. Hence her name pritha. Pritha or prithvi is considered daughter of King prithu, who was vishnu's incarnation as human king on earth.
Again satyabhama is another expansion of bhoomidevi, who came to join her lord.
Look how krishna protected pritha and her sons too.

I have one doubt regarding red line - I know Vishnu has 10 incarnations - matsya, kurma, varaha, narasimha, vamana, parashuram, ram, krishna, buddha & kalki...is there more ??

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Justitia

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Posted: 11 years ago

#170

Originally posted by: debasree04

I have one doubt regarding red line - I know Vishnu has 10 incarnations - matsya, kurma, varaha, narasimha, vamana, parashuram, ram, krishna, buddha & kalki...is there more ??

As per Srimad Bhagavatam, there were certainly more than 10 incarnations -

SB 1.3.6 " First of all, in the beginning of creation, there were the four unmarried sons of Brahma [the Kumaras], who, being situated in a vow of celibacy, underwent severe austerities for realization of the Absolute Truth.

SB 1.3.7 " The supreme enjoyer of all sacrifices accepted the incarnation of a boar [the second incarnation], and for the welfare of the earth He lifted the earth from the nether regions of the universe.

SB 1.3.8 " In the millennium of the is, the Personality of Godhead accepted the third empowered incarnation in the form of Devarsi Narada, who is a great sage among the demigods. He collected expositions of the Vedas which deal with devotional service and which inspire nonfruitive action.

SB 1.3.9 " In the fourth incarnation, the Lord became Nara and Narayana, the twin sons of the wife of King Dharma. Thus He undertook severe and exemplary penances to control the senses.

SB 1.3.10 " The fifth incarnation, named Lord Kapila, is foremost among perfected beings. He gave an exposition of the creative elements and metaphysics to Asuri Brahmana, for in course of time this knowledge had been lost.

SB 1.3.11 " The sixth incarnation of the purua was the son of the sage Atri. He was born from the womb of Anasuya, who prayed for an incarnation. He spoke on the subject of transcendence to Alarka, Prahlda and others [Yadu, Haihaya, etc.].

SB 1.3.12 " The seventh incarnation was Yajna, the son of Prajpati Ruci and his wife Akuti. He controlled the period during the change of the Svyambhuva Manu and was assisted by demigods such as His son Yama.

SB 1.3.13 " The eighth incarnation was King Rishabha, son of King Nabhi and his wife Merudevi. In this incarnation the Lord showed the path of perfection, which is followed by those who have fully controlled their senses and who are honored by all orders of life.

SB 1.3.14 " O brhmaas, in the ninth incarnation, the Lord, prayed for by sages, accepted the body of a king [Prithu] who cultivated the land to yield various produce, and for that reason the earth was beautiful and attractive.

SB 1.3.15 " When there was a complete inundation after the period of the Caksusa Manu and the whole world was deep within water, the Lord accepted the form of a fish and protected Vaivasvata Manu, keeping him up on a boat.

SB 1.3.16 " The eleventh incarnation of the Lord took the form of a tortoise whose shell served as a pivot for the Mandarcala Hill, which was being used as a churning rod by the theists and atheists of the universe.

SB 1.3.17 " In the twelfth incarnation, the Lord appeared as Dhanvantari, and in the thirteenth He allured the atheists by the charming beauty of a woman and gave nectar to the demigods to drink.

SB 1.3.18 " In the fourteenth incarnation, the Lord appeared as Nrisimha and bifurcated the strong body of the atheist Hirayakashipu with His nails, just as a carpenter pierces cane.

SB 1.3.19 " In the fifteenth incarnation, the Lord assumed the form of a dwarf brahmana [Vamana] and visited the arena of sacrifice arranged by Mahraja Bali. Although at heart He was willing to regain the kingdom of the three planetary systems, He simply asked for a donation of three steps of land.

SB 1.3.20 " In the sixteenth incarnation of the Godhead, the Lord [as Bhrigupati] annihilated the administrative class [ksatriyas] twenty-one times, being angry with them because of their rebellion against the brhmanas [the intelligent class].

SB 1.3.21 " Thereafter, in the seventeenth incarnation of Godhead, Vyasadeva appeared in the womb of Satyavati through Parasara Muni, and he divided the one Veda into several branches and subbranches, seeing that the people in general were less intelligent.

SB 1.3.22 " In the eighteenth incarnation, the Lord appeared as King Rama. In order to perform some pleasing work for the demigods, He exhibited superhuman powers by controlling the Indian Ocean and then killing the atheist King Ravana, who was on the other side of the sea.

SB 1.3.23 " In the nineteenth and twentieth incarnations, the Lord advented Himself as Lord Balarama and Lord Krsna in the family of Vrisnis [the Yadu dynasty], and by so doing He removed the burden of the world.

SB 1.3.24 " Then, in the beginning of Kali-yuga, the Lord will appear as Lord Buddha, the son of Ajana, in the province of Gaya, just for the purpose of deluding those who are envious of the faithful theist.

SB 1.3.25 " Thereafter, at the conjunction of two yugas, the Lord of the creation will take His birth as the Kalki incarnation and become the son of Visnu Yasa. At this time almost all the rulers of the earth will have degenerated into plunderers.

http://vedabase.com/en/sb/1/3

Edited by -Shani- - 11 years ago