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Posted: 11 years ago
If a situation like the one described in ⭐️B really had happened, Bhima could have done well by just calling their bluff. Let's say Bhima killed Duryodhan & Bheeshma killed Yudisthir. Bhima then becomes the default king of the Pandavas, I believe - it wouldn't be Prativindhya or Abhimanyu. He was still senior to Dushashan and all the rest, so the war could simply continue until all sons of Dhritarashtra were dead.

There wouldn't even have been a need to kill Bheeshma, assuming that Bhima could have killed all the Kauravas while Arjun, Satyaki & Abhimanyu locked the likes of Bheeshma, Drona & Ashwi in battle.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Just occurred to me - If Bhishma is holding Yudi as a hostage at spearpoint, doesn't it mean Yudi has been captured?

This is something that should NOT happen, at least from the Pandava perspective...
So, the Pandavas will technically "lose" the war in today's epi - or not? 🤔

Or, is Pitamah faking this "hostage" issue (just like how Madhav spread the fake news about HP under attack)?

Therefore, if ANYBODY from the Kaurava side can counter Krishna's strategies in a tit-for-tat manner, then what does it mean for Shakuni's brains? 😆

In this show, what are the odds that even the Kauravas might spread the fake news about somebody's death on the Pandava side (just like how the Pandavas did for Ashwi so as to kill Drona in the epic)?
Edited by -Shani- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Exactly, even if Krishna wanted to execute such a plan, why not send somebody else, like Drupad, like I wrote in CNAT?

Also, if hypothetically, Dhritarashtra & all his sons got a stroke & died, wouldn't Bheeshma automatically have to switch allegances to Yudisthir? Or would it go to Laxman (Duryodhan's son) next?

Another thing - if Bhima is in a position to kill Duryodhan, why not bash his thighs, as per his pran to Draupadi?
Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
After Bhim let go of Dury, why didn't Bhishma take Yudi to Dury and tell him,"I've captured Yudi for you...we have won the war"?
What sense did it make for Bhishma to hold Yudi as hostage, and threaten to kill him, only to let him go free later?
After all, "Capture Yudi" plan was put into effect right from Day 1 in the show...and when he has actually been captured as a hostage, Bhishma simply lets him go free just because Dury got let off by Bhim...

IIRC Bhishma's statement was,"You kill Dury, I kill Yudi". It certainly wasn't,"You let Dury go, I'll let Yudi go free..."

Also, Yudi had already been taken by Bhishma, and Bhim waited till sunset. So, it's NOT like Bhim could've made up for the lifeline by capturing Dury instead, and bringing him to Yudi (who was already taken himself).
In other words, the Kauravas did have a slight advantage of sorts which wasn't fully utilized...

Or maybe, Bhishma was simply trying to humour Dury by putting "Capture Yudi" plan into action right on Day 1 itself...
Edited by -Shani- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Quite true Shani. Here the Kauravas already know of Krishna's cunning and correctly recognize his stratagem. How are the Pandavas ever going to pull off the plot to kill Drona then? The Kauravas have already seen first hand how Yudisthir does not mind being an accomplice to Krishna's strategies, then why would they fall for the Aswathamma trick?

And I've had enough of the mutual admiration society that the Kaurava elders except Shakuni enact when they meet the Pandavas. I can only thank the CVs that they don't go pranipaating each other here.

No Satyaki on the Pandava side is indeed a huge loss for the Pandavas. Ashwathhama was also a fierce warrior, and somehow they just keep missing the point.
Edited by Ashwini_D - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Finally saw some sense on the Pandava side with respect to their battle formations and positioning of Yudisthir , who was leading the troops on day 1. I was under the impression that protecting the king was a senapati's prime duty.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Ashwini_D

No Satyaki on the Pandava side is indeed a huge loss for the Pandavas. Ashwathhama was also a fierce warrior, and somehow they just keep missing the point.




Satyaki's absence is a glaring hole in the depiction of this war, although to be fair, ⭐️B ain't the first: BRC too didn't show him much, except on day 14, while RS-SK didn't show him @ all, despite the fact that he was Krishna's companion in the war, which is why he too spent the night w/ Krishna & the Pandavas, and didn't get slaughtered by Ashwatthama.

On the Kaurava side, Ashwi was easily their most dangerous warrior, easily rivalling Bheeshma, Drona & Karna. He had 2 lethal weapons - the Narayanastra, & the Brahmashira, but even aside from that, he rarely lost a battle (only lost consistently against Bhima or Arjun) Aside from him, even Kripacharya was really good - as good as Drona, although, in the end, he, along w/ Ashwatthama & Kritavarma, fled the scene of battle.
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Posted: 11 years ago
My observations on the first two days of the ⭐️kshetra War -

1. This war is not a war - it is actually just a game of wizard's chess (Harry Potter fans would know what I'm talking about).

You see, The ONLY objective for BOTH sides seems to be "capture the king (or his rep, as the case may be)", and the war is over. So, it is the same as chess.

But the physical fighting is reminiscent of wizard's chess wherein one piece literally knocks off the other piece from the chessboard...just as the warriors are fighting it out.

So, take out king + others knocking each other out = wizard's chess = ⭐️kshetra war.

As an alternative to wizard's chess, you could've well had only Yudi and Dury fighting it out initially (one round of spear v/s spear, and then second round being gada v/s gada), and the others could've been their respective bodyguards or "second-in-command" (taking over when Yudi and/or Dury get defeated), and the ⭐️kshetra war could've been fought like that instead...

2. Yudi ACTUALLY holds his own against Dury in a gada yudh, but Bhim gets knocked out cold by a chariot wheel - I have nothing more to say...😳

3. This Yudi is going to be the next king of HP????
A kid sacrifices himself for his sake, and then the senapati of the enemy threatens to kill him at spearpoint...
And he actually says that he doesn't mind getting killed so long as the war finishes quickly, when his death ACTUALLY means that his own camp loses the war...
I mean, like what is the whole point of making this guy the next king of HP? 🤪

4. Krishna's yojanas being revealed out loudly on the battlefield, that too, when the enemy is within earshot...and these Pandavas will actually win the war?? 😕

5. Krishna wants to finish an 18-day-war on the second day itself...🤔
Surely, being omniscient, he would know that the war would actually go on for 18 days...
As Vrish's CNAT states,"History almost got changed on Day 2 of the ⭐️kshetra War!!" 😃
BTW, did that five-point yojana make any sense at all in the end?

6. Drona says that so long as he is alive, nothing can happen to his son...hmmm, only wish Vyasa had thought the same too...🤔
How is Drona supposed to get killed now?

7. Both sides indulge in cheating to take the upper hand (Kauravas on Day 1, Pandavas on Day 2).
So, no real fighting capability on both sides?? 😕

8. Yudi turns into a ranchhod, just like Krishna...this Yudi is sassier than his epic counterpart. Surely, he could've told his younger cousin,"I'm not a ranchhod like you..." 😆

9. In yesterday's epi, did Arjun actually say that the strategy of Day 2 can be employed once again on Day 3 to reach Dury?? 😕 😆
Edited by -Shani- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -Shani-

My observations on the first two days of the ⭐️kshetra War -

1. This war is not a war - it is actually just a game of wizard's chess (Harry Potter fans would know what I'm talking about).

You see, The ONLY objective for BOTH sides seems to be "capture the king (or his rep, as the case may be)", and the war is over. So, it is the same as chess.

But the physical fighting is reminiscent of wizard's chess wherein one piece literally knocks off the other piece from the chessboard...just as the warriors are fighting it out.

So, take out king + others knocking each other out = wizard's chess = ⭐️kshetra war.

As an alternative to wizard's chess, you could've well had only Yudi and Dury fighting it out initially (one round of spear v/s spear, and then second round being gada v/s gada), and the others could've been their respective bodyguards or "second-in-command" (taking over when Yudi and/or Dury get defeated), and the ⭐️kshetra war could've been fought like that instead...

2. Yudi ACTUALLY holds his own against Dury in a gada yudh, but Bhim gets knocked out cold by a chariot wheel - I have nothing more to say...😳

3. This Yudi is going to be the next king of HP????
A kid sacrifices himself for his sake, and then the senapati of the enemy threatens to kill him at spearpoint...
And he actually says that he doesn't mind getting killed so long as the war finishes quickly, when his death ACTUALLY means that his own camp loses the war...
I mean, like what is the whole point of making this guy the next king of HP? 🤪

4. Krishna's yojanas being revealed out loudly on the battlefield, that too, when the enemy is within earshot...and these Pandavas will actually win the war?? 😕

5. Krishna wants to finish an 18-day-war on the second day itself...🤔
Surely, being omniscient, he would know that the war would actually go on for 18 days...
As Vrish's CNAT states,"History almost got changed on Day 2 of the ⭐️kshetra War!!" 😃
BTW, did that five-point yojana make any sense at all in the end?

6. Drona says that so long as he is alive, nothing can happen to his son...hmmm, only wish Vyasa had thought the same too...🤔
How is Drona supposed to get killed now?

7. Both sides indulge in cheating to take the upper hand (Kauravas on Day 1, Pandavas on Day 2).
So, no real fighting capability on both sides?? 😕

8. Yudi turns into a ranchhod, just like Krishna...this Yudi is sassier than his epic counterpart. Surely, he could've told his younger cousin,"I'm not a ranchhod like you..." 😆

9. In yesterday's epi, did Arjun actually say that the strategy of Day 2 can be employed once again on Day 3 to reach Dury?? 😕 😆



👏⭐️ - Excellent post.. I concur.. I had same questions too. I liked HP analogy and I agree Yudhi here is sassy.. I thought I would love war scenes but so far quite disappointed..

Also performance of Bheeshma and Dury are getting on my nerves. Even Shaks.. Mercifully Dusy does not have enough screen presence so he is tolerable.

Why do they keep showing Shak all the time as if he is cooking up some brilliant strategy all the time ?

I loved Bheeshma in the beginning but this Bheeshma can not emote, has zero voice modulation so I get plain bored with him.

Dury less said better.. He is very handsome, good actor but again he is too monotonous.. moronic, evil laughter, stupid, unreasonable demands, no respect for anyone.. does not care for elders, friends not even Dushy.. Total disappointment..

And I think fault lies with CVs and not actors..

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Posted: 11 years ago
Shakuni was a non-entity in the war - he was usually fighting the third grade warriors. Usually, it was a battle w/ one of Draupadi's sons. His brothers were killed by Iravana, and his son Uluka fought Yuyutsu. It's hard to believe that he was 1 of the 11 Akshauni commanders, since Sahadev had little trouble killing him

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