Symbolic Themes In Mahabharat: Edt july 4 - Page 7

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Abhimanyu is Arjuna's Son - Arjuna is the 4th Son of Kunti
Abhimanyu is Subhadra's Son - Subhadra is the 4th wife of Arjuna
Abhimanyu dies on the 13th day - 1+3 = 4
Abhimanyu used a chariot wheel as his last weapon after which he is killed, 4 days later Karna dies because of a Chariot wheel.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Medha.S

Abhimanyu is Arjuna's Son - Arjuna is the 4th Son of Kunti
Abhimanyu is Subhadra's Son - Subhadra is the 4th wife of Arjuna
Abhimanyu dies on the 13th day - 1+3 = 4
Abhimanyu used a chariot wheel as his last weapon after which he is killed, 4 days later Karna dies because of a Chariot wheel.


Good one Medha👏

Is the chakravyuh shaped like a chariot wheel also?
Medha.S thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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nopes, it was a like 7 circles with 7 great warriors protecting each i think ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Medha.S

nopes, it was a like 7 circles with 7 great warriors protecting each i think ...


yeah...that's right😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Another symbolic theme

Kauravs were 100 but Pandavs were 5

We all have 100s of vices and very few virtues but even those few good traits can overcome our vices if we choose to follow the right path in life
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Posted: 11 years ago
#66
The Two Krishnas are compared to the Sun and the Moon in MB.
It says they "appeared" like it.
One would think that as Sun is considered superior to the moon as it symbolises light and moon symbolises light in the darkness -- because moon cannot vanquish the darkness, it needs the sun, Krishna is the Sun while Arjuna is the moon.

But in Rig Veda, "Krishnamarjunam" is used for light/day and dark/night.


Here Krishna= night/dark
Arjuna = day/light.

"One half of day is dark, and bright the other: both atmospheres move on by sage devices. Agni Vaisvanara, when born as Sovran, hath with his lustre overcome the darkness. (RV-6.9.1)"

Here, the word for Day is Arjuna,' and for Night is Krishna,' that is, Krishna = Night, and Arjuna = Day, and together the names suggest rotation of Kala-Time. Literally, Arjuna means White, and in Rig Veda, Indra's Vajra is called 'Arjuna.'



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Posted: 11 years ago
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The four Krishnas of Mahabharata represent this complexity of Power. And then there is Karna too.

Let us now apply this Day and Night rotation to Mahabharatan characters.

Arjuna's another name is Krishna; besides, there are two other Krishnas in Mahabharata - Krishnadvaipayana-Vyasa himself and Draupadi-Krshna. Again, Karna is Surya's son, and Draupadi is Agni-born. Again, going by Rg Veda, Indra is opposed to Surya.

To include these -

a) Surya = Agni = Day = Waxing Candra = Arjuna = White = Indra = Karna = Draupadi
b) Candra = Soma = Night = Waning Candra = Black = Krishna = Vyasa = Arjuna = Draupadi = Surya = Vrtra


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The one who rotates in Day and Night, his Dharma is bound to diminish; however, one is Objective to the rotation is firmly established in Dharma. Krishna-Arjuna are the rotating Day and Night, however, Krishna-Arjuna on One Chariot is also free from the rotation.

The two armies clashing at Kurukshetra are apparently the Deva-Asuras - and like Power and Anti-Power endless game, there are Devas within Asuras (like Bhishma), and Asuras within Devas (like Ssikhandi - a Rakshasa incarnate).

So, the two armies are Day and Night.

By placing the Chariot between the two armies, Krishna-Arjuna are at the Joint.

Does it need any further explanation why Krishna advises Gita on the Chariot that is placed between the two armies?

We already have the equation -

Prajapati = Year = Yuga

Thus, Krishna-Arjuna on One Chariot represents Yuga - whether beginning of Yuga or end of a Yuga - we cannot determine.

ere



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Posted: 11 years ago
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nice thread👏
very interesting n knowledgeful
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Medha didi, very profound meanings you have given.
Thanks for the link also.

I didn't understand the equations clearly. Can you explain?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt

Medha didi, very profound meanings you have given.

Thanks for the link also.

I didn't understand the equations clearly. Can you explain?


Firstly, you see the writer is going with the pov that the MB is an interpretation of Vedas in narrative form. This is like the decoding of MB as a narration of the vedas.
There are no characters and stories. I don't know much about the vedas really, haven't gone through them.
The writer has collected the vedic interpretations of MB by different authors and is trying to make sense of it.
How the 4 krishnas are the same, not different just representing different aspects of the same property.
Very confusing, i am still trying to understand. Seems as if everything, every action is a code for something said in the Vedas. Tell me if you get it better.😆

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