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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: -Shani-

ALL 18 parvas of the Mahabharata now form the longest epic poem in the world. But, what did Vyasa's "Jaya" originally comprise of? Did it originally contain ALL 18 parvas?


If not, then what was the main reason for the "later" addition of the "extra" parvas?

Technically speaking, shouldn't we consider that "Jaya" itself might've been "distorted" through these "later" additions?


Why are you talking like this?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt


Why are you talking like this?

Just curiosity...that's it.

I had a question, I wanted an answer - simple as that...

I can't help it, weird questions pop into my mind. If it is forbidden to ask this question, then I won't...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Regarding Jaya, and the number of verses..

Ganesa having signified his assent, by repeating the word Om! proceeded to write; and Vyasa began; and by way of diversion, he knit the knots of composition exceeding close;by doing which, he dictated this work according to his engagement. I am (continued Sauti) acquainted with eight thousand and eight hundred verses, and so is Suka, and perhaps Sanjaya. From the mysteriousness of their meaning, O Muni, no one is able, to this day, to penetrate those closely knit difficult slokas. Even the omniscient Ganesa took a moment to consider; while Vyasa, however, continued to compose other verses in great abundance.

So, the 8800 verses spoken of, IMO, are those closely knit verses, and not the total number of verses in Mahabharata.

It is also said:

Vyasa executed the compilation of the Bharata, exclusive of the episodes originally in twenty-four thousand verses; and so much only is called by the learned as the Bharata. Afterwards, he composed an epitome in one hundred and fifty verses, consisting of the introduction with the chapter of contents. This he first taught to his son Suka; and afterwards he gave it to others of his disciples who were possessed of the same qualifications. After that he executed another compilation, consisting of six hundred thousand verses. Of those, thirty hundred thousand are known in the world of the Devas; fifteen hundred thousand in the world of the Pitris: fourteen hundred thousand among the Gandharvas, and one hundred thousand in the regions of mankind. Narada recited them to the Devas, Devala to the Pitris, and Suka published them to the Gandharvas, Yakshas, and Rakshasas: and in this world they were recited by Vaisampayana, one of the disciples of Vyasa, a man of just principles and the first among all those acquainted with the Vedas. Know that I, Sauti, have also repeated one hundred thousand verses.


So the established number of verses is One Lakh.

And about the contents, then Chapter 2 of Adi Parva gives a complete summary of the contents.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: -Shani-



Just curiosity...that's it.

I had a question, I wanted an answer - simple as that...

I can't help it, weird questions pop into my mind. If it is forbidden to ask this question, then I won't...

No no sorry! I was thinking you were replying to my own question, really sorry, misunderstanding, I have posted the answer to your query.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Shani, you are not offended, are you?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

One question about the Yaksha lake incident. Where did Yudisthir leave Draupadi? There was one account where Draupadi was the first to go to fetch water, and ignored the Yaksha's command & died, followed by NSAB in that order. Yudisthir came and did the rest.

Wouldn't it have been dangerous for Yudisthir to just leave Draupadi there alone? When it was down to just 2 of them, should he just have taken her w/ him?

Draupadi was not alone..
Vaisampayana said, "Having defeated the chief of the Saindhavas, and rescued Krishna, and having outlived the entire term of their painful exile in the woods, and having listened to the ancient stories about gods and Rishis recited by Markandeya, those heroes among men returned from their asylum in Kamyaka to the sacred Dwaitavana, with all their cars, and followers, and accompanied by their charioteers, their kine, and the citizens who had followed them."
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Posted: 11 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: ...Diala...

Draupadi was not alone..
Vaisampayana said, "Having defeated the chief of the Saindhavas, and rescued Krishna, and having outlived the entire term of their painful exile in the woods, and having listened to the ancient stories about gods and Rishis recited by Markandeya, those heroes among men returned from their asylum in Kamyaka to the sacred Dwaitavana, with all their cars, and followers, and accompanied by their charioteers, their kine, and the citizens who had followed them."


Does that mean she was with others who were living in that area? I thought the Pandavas were living in a secluded area of the forest...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#78

Not the forest dwellers.. these were their companions since they left the city for exile.. maybe some more Brahmins and Rishis got added.. am surprised to know that they had charioteers too..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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her daasis of IP had come with her too...
in vana para , draupadi-harana her maid by name Dhatreyika informs yudi etc about drau kidnapping by jayadrath.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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bhas1066, thanks. That was completely new to me. Did anyone else go along with the Pandavas when they left for the 12-year exile?

We know that Subadra went with Krishna to Dwarka. What happened to the other wives of the Pandavas? Did they stay in Indraprastha or go back to their own countries? Kunti was in Hastinapur for all the 13 years? Where was she when the war began? And incidentally, where did the Pandavas stay during the war?


Sorry, too many questions 😳
Edited by Vibhishna - 11 years ago

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