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Surya Sundarraj Sriram

@Surya_krsnbhakt

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#351

@Varaali Wow Pandava Gita.

Just googled it.

It has the prayers of practically all the main characters, right?

SO, in which version of MB is this found? South version? The one with Nalayani?

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varaali

@varaali

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#352

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt
@Varaali Wow Pandava Gita.
Just googled it.
It has the prayers of practically all the main characters, right?
SO, in which version of MB is this found? South version? The one with Nalayani?

No. Not even the SR.

It's only existence today can be traced to a work called Bruhat Sotra Sagara.

But my understanding is that these verses would have occurred at different places, in some version or the other, and someone complied them all together.

Just because KMG (or Neeelkantha) did not deem it necessary to incorporate them does not necessarily render it inaccurate.

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riti4u

@riti4u

Stunner

+ 7

Posted: 11 years ago

#353

@varaali - sorry to intervene here .. but the verse and translation of verse you shared doesnt show him repenting for any action. this is just similar to what arjun also said in show just few days back about duryodhana.. that he knows what dharma is ..but still chooses to follow adharma..

And if we consider that KMG is not source for all of Mahabharat then every argument in this place which is done with reference to KMG should not be held as Ultimate Truth which sadly is taken here as truth when it satisfies a person's personal opinion.

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TheWatcher

@TheWatcher

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#354

Originally posted by: .Vrish.
Cotswold

One correction - Karna did not invite Draupadi to pick another husband. That one was a BRC invention

Actually, KMG does mention this. BRC was right about this. Surprisingly, Bhima sort of agreed with Karna.

" Karna said,--'Of all the persons in the assembly, three, viz., Bhishma, Vidura, and the preceptor of the Kurus (Drona) appear to be independent; for they always speak of their master as wicked, always censure him, and never wish for his prosperity. O excellent one, the slave, the son, and the wife are always dependent. They cannot earn wealth, for whatever they earn belongeth to their master. Thou art the wife of a slave incapable of possessing anything on his own account. Repair now to the inner apartments of king Dhritarashtra and serve the king's relatives. We direct that that is now thy proper business. And, O princess, all the sons of Dhritarashtra and not the sons of Pritha are now thy masters. O handsome one, select thou another husband now,--one who will not make thee a slave by gambling. It is well-known that women, especially that are slaves, are not censurable if they proceed with freedom in electing husbands. Therefore let it be done by thee. Nakula hath been won, as also Bhimasena, and Yudhishthira also, and Sahadeva, and Arjuna. And, O Yajnaseni, thou art now a slave. Thy husbands that are slaves cannot continue to be thy lords any longer. Alas, doth not the son of Pritha regards life, prowess and manhood as of no use that he offereth this daughter of Drupada, the king of Panchala, in the presence of all this assembly, as a stake at dice?'" Vaisampayana continued,--"Hearing these words, the wrathful Bhima breathed hard, a very picture of woe. Obedient to the king and bound by the tie of virtue and duty, burning everything with his eyes inflamed by anger, he said,--'O king, I cannot be angry at these words of this son of a Suta, for we have truly entered the state of servitude. But O king, could our enemies have said so unto me, it thou hadst not played staking this princess?'" "

Karna said this and it was not offending to Bhima too, he said that the Pandavas were slaves and they cant earn money, hence select another husband who will not gamble you, basically insulting the mistake of Pandavas which deserved to get insulted. ( I am talking about the mistake of gambling their wife )

Edited by TheWatcher - 11 years ago

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Surya Sundarraj Sriram

@Surya_krsnbhakt

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#355

And the citation wars continue..😆

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Diala D

@...Diala...

Sparkler

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#356

Srishti... I believe this is what everyone is talking about... I dont wanna share any opinion on this.. right or wrong whatever.. Kunti mentions that the scriptures say ic with 5 makes a woman a harlot i.e prostitute which is far from unchaste.. so I dont think Karna really thought of the technicality of that name calling..

The celebrated Pandu, tempted by the desire of having more children wished to speak again unto his wedded wife (for invoking some other god). But Kunti addressed him, saying, 'The wise do not sanction a fourth delivery even in a season of distress. The woman having intercourse with four different men is called a Swairini (heanton), while she having intercourse with five becometh a harlot. Therefore, O learned one, as thou art well-acquainted with the scripture on this subject, why dost thou, beguiled by desire of offspring, tell me so in seeming forgetfulness of the ordinance?

Shruti.. am not sure how much dare or gut feeling is required to post this straight from MB.. I have seen this quoted and discussed in the forum n number of times.. may be you missed it.. it is not that the technicality being discussed is a rumor that got viral..

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Neutral2

@Neutral2

Navigator

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#357

Every MB serial showed that Karna Kavach Kundal sacrifice was happened just before the Kurusetra war. But in kmg it happened at the end of 12 year of pandav forest exile and before the agyatvaas.

What other version say about this????

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.Vaikartana.

@.Vaikartana.

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#358

Was parashurama the guru of Bhishma?If yes why was d clause of being a brahmin applied to him?

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Neutral2

@Neutral2

Navigator

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#359

Originally posted by: vaikartana
Was parashurama the guru of Bhishma?If yes why was d clause of being a brahmin applied to him?

Parshurama teaches bhism on the request of Ganga

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Srishti

@srishtisingh

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#360

was there any such rule by parshuram that he won't teach kashatriya? or he was angry that karna lied to him? as I read a post sometimes ago that parshuram did teach other kshatriya students (forgot their names)

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