Pandavas, Krishna & their family- Admiration Thread # 3

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AnjanaYYZ

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Yuddhi's 2 addictions (dhrama & dhyut) combined resulted in dice game losses. In StarBharat they emphasized only 1st addiction to "dharma"... but, in his slavish following/interpretation of "dharma" he forgot the greater dharma and pati dharma.

Issues with Draupadi's Staking

1. Yuddhi had adhikhar to stake bros, but not the wife of those bros. Only his bros had that adhikar. It does not auto transfer to Yuddhi because he is eldest. He would have required Arjuna's consent to bet Subhi. Similarly here he would have require all four's consent to bet Draupadi. He did not obtain said consent.

2. He bet Draupadi after he lost himself following adesh of StarDury here. So, we have 2nd problem here and in the original as well. Can a DASS bet a free person? Does his rights as a pati become less as DASS then as Freeman?

3. But, all of this clouds the real problem. Human Beings and relationships should not be bet. That was the ADHARMA here. The rules of this absurd game Star has conceptualized obscure this issue. It is the BIGGEST issue. DharamRaj/Dass error and adharma was betting humans including Draupadi. Property was fine - but siblings and spouses are not property.

Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 11 years ago

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Justitia

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Posted: 11 years ago

#222

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ
Yuddhi's 2 addictions (dhrama & dhyut) combined resulted in dice game losses. In StarBharat they emphasized only 1st addiction to "dharma"... but, in his slavish following/interpretation of "dharma" he forgot the greater dharma and pati dharma.

Issues with Draupadi's Staking
1. Yuddhi had adhikhar to stake bros, but not the wife of those bros. Only his bros had that adhikar. It does not auto transfer to Yuddhi because he is eldest. He would have required Arjuna's consent to bet Subhi. Similarly here he would have require all four's consent to bet Draupadi. He did not obtain said consent.

2. He bet Draupadi after he lost himself following adesh of StarDury here. So, we have 2nd problem here and in the original as well. Can a DASS bet a free person? Does his rights as a pati become less as DASS then as Freeman?

3. But, all of this clouds the real problem. Human Beings and relationships should not be bet. That was the ADHARMA here. The rules of this absurd game Star has conceptualized obscure this issue. It is the BIGGEST issue. DharamRaj/Dass error and adharma was betting humans including Draupadi. Property was fine - but siblings and spouses are not property.

When it came to Drau's staking and Yudi FINALLY decided to take the plunge at the end of Fri's epi, NONE of the Pandavas really objected, even though they were also Panchali's hubbies. I wonder why...

Bhim took the pran earlier about burning jesht's hands for staking Panchali...he should've fulfilled his pran at THAT moment itself...

Part in bold - Blame ⭐️Bharat & ⭐️Duri for framing rules which permit humans to be staked 😡

I was simply shocked when I read the spoiler article two weeks ago which made it completely "permissible" for humans to be staked...😡

And to cloud the "adharma" committed DharamDass, it was even shown that ⭐️Duri was the one who initiated the betting of humans and relationships, and that ⭐️Shakuni was trapping DharamDass in his own web of 'dharma'...😡

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: Abhishek_King
Khastriyo ko to apne independence p bohot naaz hota h na?

chote kya matlab Independence p bahut naaz hota h?????😕

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Sabhayata

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Posted: 11 years ago

#224

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

3. But, all of this clouds the real problem. Human Beings and relationships should not be bet. That was the ADHARMA here. The rules of this absurd game Star has conceptualized obscure this issue. It is the BIGGEST issue. DharamRaj/Dass error and adharma was betting humans including Draupadi. Property was fine - but siblings and spouses are not property.

well this is definitely what we think now but was this concept also accepted in dwapar yug .Betting human beings was definitely unusual but was it considered adharma as well?I dont think epic is clear on this matter as per dwapar yug standards.Does any one in the epic even krishna ji reprimand yudhishtir for staking Draupadi and his brother's?

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AnjanaYYZ

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

well this is definitely what we think now but was this concept also accepted in dwapar yug .Betting human beings was definitely unusual but was it considered adharma as well?I dont think epic is clear on this matter as per dwapar yug standards.Does any one in the epic even krishna ji reprimand yudhishtir for staking Draupadi and his brother's?

Since they have made khichdi btwn Dwapar Yug - n- Kali Yug, I expect them to say its "adharma"...back then the adharma was dice game itself. Didn't you hear StarBhisma going on about it? 😆😆 Also, if actual Yuddhi had been proud of following his "dharma" then he would not have been doing penance for 12 yrs.

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Justitia

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

well this is definitely what we think now but was this concept also accepted in dwapar yug .Betting human beings was definitely unusual but was it considered adharma as well?I dont think epic is clear on this matter as per dwapar yug standards.Does any one in the epic even krishna ji reprimand yudhishtir for staking Draupadi and his brother's?

Part in bold - Can someone please tell me how is it that Krishna absolved the Pandavas of THEIR "guilt" as far as Draupadi's humiliation is concerned?

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Vrish

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Posted: 11 years ago

#227

Now, what will be ⭐️Yudisthir's reason for playing the second game of dice? Or will Duryodhan order his dases to go straight to exile for the 12+1 years?

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Justitia

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: .Vrish.
Now, what will be ⭐️Yudisthir's reason for playing the second game of dice? Or will Duryodhan order his dases to go straight to exile for the 12+1 years?

Considering that ⭐️Yudi actually gets his hands burnt, 2nd dice game seems to be in doubt right now...

I mean, how will ⭐️Yudi play the 2nd dice game with burnt hands? Pandavas will HAVE to duck out of that one...and if no 2nd dice game, then how will they get exiled?

Considering the fact that Krishna is physically present with them when they take their prans, I won't be surprised if Krishna recommends the 12+1 exile as 'prayaschit'...😕

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Vrish

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Posted: 11 years ago

#229

Will ⭐️Vrikodar burn both his hands, or just the one that casts the dice & moves the merus?

Inquiring minds want to know 😆

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Joja

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Posted: 11 years ago

#230

it is known fact that Yudi lost Draupadi in game and all the insult she takes.

Yudi was and is known for his Dharma.

But while following he rules of the game he forgot his pratam dharma, that is to save his wife from any kind of trouble. Isnt this the vachan which everyone would take during marriage. so how could have break his promise.

Being a king, how could he loose his kingdom to an Adharmi. what about his praja, didnt he think about them. Isnt it his first duty to protect them, what about Praja Dharma.

A women is being dragged to Sabha and pulled her saree. How can any man forget king just see it and not help. Isnt not protecting any anyay allso adarma.

His wife is pleeding for help and he shuts he mouth of that stupid game and rules. What about bigger rules of life?

He was just thinking about what will he be called . or what will happen to him if he asks his brothers to save her, because he gave the word. What about her respect .. will it ever come back? did he think about Draupadi. No, if he had, he would have forgotten everything and saved her.

Be it this Star Yudi or real one.

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